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2012 Wont Happen

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I want some feedback on a pamphlet I'm writing. I just completed part one of it. What do you guys think of it?



If we so wish, we the people have the power to create a world without poverty. If we so wish, we can create a world without hunger and without disease. We could create a world without hatred and without intolerance. A world where tyranny and oppression will exist only in history, and serve no purpose but to remind us of what we have come from and what we may lose if we abandon our pursuits. We will create a world in which anybody with the will to work will be able to for fair wages in conditions befitting their state as human beings.

In our effort, we must start out small. We cannot sway the world in an instant. We must first fight for concessions of our cause in our own countries of origin. Such a flame of liberty started by a spark may sound absurd to you. Indeed, you have been born and bred to believe such revolutionary flame impossible in anything but the past tense. However, if the people of the world will come, as individuals, into the care of humanity as a society, these sparks worldwide not only have grown in our past, but will grow in our future into a flame, burning a path of freedom and Democracy through a mire of oppression and Fascism.

We must stand together as people, and so as brothers to create a world of both equal rights and equal opportunities, both social and economic. Such blights as racism, homophobia, religious discrimination, and sexism must be eliminated from this world. In turn, they must be replaced with global healthcare, adequate education, the free unionization of the workforce, safe workplaces, and the guarantee of fair compensation for labor rendered.

You may disagree with what I have to say. You may feel yourself to be privileged and believe that the equality of the citizens of the world would not benefit you. It is true that your immediate wealth may decrease. Or perhaps you will not be able to afford to eat by yourself in an afternoon what many would consider lucky to have in a week. However, in the long run- everyone is benefitted by equality by the very essence of the interlocking nature of equality and liberty. Without liberty, equality cannot be truthfully claimed. So it is true that there must be equality for everyone- or liberty for no one. If the rights of one person on this planet are allowed to be abridged, who is to say that you will not be the next to have your rights stripped of you?

And so we must stand together now, not as a nation, or an
empire, but as people united under our humanity, to promote values of peace, liberty, social cooperation, and equality. If we fail in this regard, and allow our liberties as human beings to fall farther to the wayside, we will find much greater challenge in overcoming our adversity at a later date. In fact, the day may come when we will find ourselves utterly subdued, lacking both in the means or the strength of spirit to rise against our enemy. So we must rise now.

History shows us a pattern. Republics and democracies, built on the ideals of a free state, have abandoned those ideals and risen into empires built on the oppression of those outside the Nation for the benefit of those within. Why? It is because throughout history we have separated ourselves. Being born into this world as brothers we have, rather than embracing our common humanity, created things to divide us. We have dehumanized each other by withdrawing into subgroups such as nations and corporations and religions. These divisions are the product of our greed, and must be put to an end by our passion.

In the begging, perhaps, when we were little more than animals, we had to band together in smaller groups for survival, and we warred with one another as a result of an inability to compromise. Now we have more food, and more ability to create energy, than ever before in our time of this Earth. We have means to communicate instantly with our fellow man separated from us by the entire mass of the Earth. So, yes, the divisions of our humanity MUST be put to an end. There is no longer any excuse, any reasoning, for the continued subjugation of our fellow man.

Within the system that currently exists, there will never be any such move from oppression to freedom. There will always be certain groups and entities that work to make the world a better place. However, their goals will ultimately be futile as long as those who work against their efforts are given not only free reign, but special preference by the powers that be. With not only morality and ideology, but also the logical protection of our liberty in mind, we must move away from the current world system. We must unite through our brotherhood as humans, and take the power away from the super-wealthy and political elite and put it back in the hands of the people. We must take the emphasis off of competition between nations, and instead place it upon cooperation between human beings. Only when this is done, and absolute equality has been achieved, will any of us be able to claim to be truly free.

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Logan Nicks

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Ok, let me make this clear

THIS IS NOT HOMEWORK

it is a political manifesto I am working on of my own will


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This is only the first part of a planned 3 part pamphlet. The next two parts will go more into specific ideology and methods.
 

Kasawd

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I beg to differ.

The fact that we ahve naturally segregated ourselves makes us only too human.

Cliques do not de-humanize. Nothing does.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
HardRockSamurai said:
Dude, check your own homework.
It's not homework, its a political pamphlet that I want feedback on.
Fine. I'll read it.

[small]minutes later[/small]

It's OK. The only problem I have with it is this bit:

2012 Wont Happen said:
You may disagree with what I have to say...
That's stating the obvious. It doesn't really need to be there.
 

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HardRockSamurai said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
HardRockSamurai said:
Dude, check your own homework.
It's not homework, its a political pamphlet that I want feedback on.
Fine. I'll read it.

[small]minutes later[/small]

It's OK. The only problem I have with it is this bit:

2012 Wont Happen said:
You may disagree with what I have to say...
That's stating the obvious. It doesn't really need to be there.
Thanks for the feedback
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
Suiseiseki IRL said:
Do I hear fires being lit? I think I do?
Do you have anything to add or are you just disrupting my thread?
He's just warning, I think.

Or... WARMing... hah.

Besides, this manifesto appears to be a mix of the oriental philosophies and Marxism.

We all know how well that turned out, in the long run.
 

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FanofDeath said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Suiseiseki IRL said:
Do I hear fires being lit? I think I do?
Do you have anything to add or are you just disrupting my thread?
He's just warning, I think.

Or... WARMing... hah.

Besides, this manifesto appears to be a mix of the oriental philosophies and Marxism.

We all know how well that turned out, in the long run.
I do not know about oriental philosophies, but I am a socialist
 

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It's nice to have a dream and you've obviously put a lot of effort into it, but do you really see any form of change coming out of this? There's a difference between having an obtainable goal and having an unrealistic one. So many groups have thought they were going to change the world but in the end it doesn't amount to much. Democracy is going to be a very, very hard if not impossible system to dislodge now it is in power, and really it's not that bad of a system, I don't see why it needs changing in the slightest.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
FanofDeath said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Suiseiseki IRL said:
Do I hear fires being lit? I think I do?
Do you have anything to add or are you just disrupting my thread?
He's just warning, I think.

Or... WARMing... hah.

Besides, this manifesto appears to be a mix of the oriental philosophies and Marxism.

We all know how well that turned out, in the long run.
I do not know about oriental philosophies, but I am a socialist
It shows in the lack of political cynicism. Why do you think it would work? You run on the assumption that everyone will be happy to adopt this way of thinking. Or that the society would not decay into the empire it would undoubtedly be.

People need their violence. How do you propose to quell those urges through peace?

It would be a serene boredom.

Besides. Fascist dicks like me and my buddies would easy trample over a peace loving empire.
 

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Inverse Skies said:
It's nice to have a dream and you've obviously put a lot of effort into it, but do you really see any form of change coming out of this? There's a difference between having an obtainable goal and having an unrealistic one. So many groups have thought they were going to change the world but in the end it doesn't amount to much. Democracy is going to be a very, very hard if not impossible system to dislodge now it is in power, and really it's not that bad of a system, I don't see why it needs changing in the slightest.
the problem is, we do not have a Democracy. I would be thrilled to have a democracy (which socialism is quite compatible with)
 

2012 Wont Happen

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FanofDeath said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
FanofDeath said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Suiseiseki IRL said:
Do I hear fires being lit? I think I do?
Do you have anything to add or are you just disrupting my thread?
He's just warning, I think.

Or... WARMing... hah.

Besides, this manifesto appears to be a mix of the oriental philosophies and Marxism.

We all know how well that turned out, in the long run.
I do not know about oriental philosophies, but I am a socialist
It shows in the lack of political cynicism. Why do you think it would work? You run on the assumption that everyone will be happy to adopt this way of thinking. Or that the society would not decay into the empire it would undoubtedly be.

People need their violence. How do you propose to quell those urges through peace?

It would be a serene boredom.

Besides. Fascist dicks like me and my buddies would easy trample over a peace loving empire.
This is sort of unrelated, but I bet this will anger you as much as it did me seeing as you claim to be a fascist:

I was talking to some libertarians the other day, and they talked about Fascism and Socialism as if they were interchangeable ideologies...

On a more related note, thanks for the feedback you've provided
 

Kasawd

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2012 Wont Happen said:
FanofDeath said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
FanofDeath said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
Suiseiseki IRL said:
Do I hear fires being lit? I think I do?
Do you have anything to add or are you just disrupting my thread?
He's just warning, I think.

Or... WARMing... hah.

Besides, this manifesto appears to be a mix of the oriental philosophies and Marxism.

We all know how well that turned out, in the long run.
I do not know about oriental philosophies, but I am a socialist
It shows in the lack of political cynicism. Why do you think it would work? You run on the assumption that everyone will be happy to adopt this way of thinking. Or that the society would not decay into the empire it would undoubtedly be.

People need their violence. How do you propose to quell those urges through peace?

It would be a serene boredom.

Besides. Fascist dicks like me and my buddies would easy trample over a peace loving empire.
This is sort of unrelated, but I bet this will anger you as much as it did me seeing as you claim to be a fascist:

I was talking to some libertarians the other day, and they talked about Fascism and Socialism as if they were interchangeable ideologies...

On a more related note, thanks for the feedback you've provided
Good, it angered you. We can only have a debate fueled by passion, eh? It is political, after all.

I believe that the only way to create peace is through the use of a pervasive police force, which is massively hypocritical. In my philosophy, I see humans having a need to quell their more violent sides. Fascism has a more dominant feel. Instead of everyone holding hands, per se and dancing in the tulips, it is equality through force. The problem is that it requires a class system. A good dictator will be excellent for the fascist country where a power hungry one will not.

It's basically angrier.

Why do you think people will see this light, though?

EDIT: Oh, yeah. Those libertarians need to take a glance at the sidenotes of both. Basically the same ends with differing methods. The methods, however, make the difference.
 

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This pamphlet does not actually say anything. It has a lot of pretty words and strategic capitalization, but it fails to offer anything other than a statement that we need to "unite" and "take the power away from the super-wealthy and political elite and put it back in the hands of the people," without any sort of statement on how we are supposed to do so, what we are supposed to replace that system with, and is pretty unclear on why we should even do so (yes, yes, because equality is important, but why is equality important, what are the negative effects of inequality, and how can we get rid of inequality?).

Basically, this pamphlet is incapable of inciting anyone to action because it does not specify what action they should take, or why they should take it. It needs to devote some space to those concerns.
 

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2012 Wont Happen said:
the problem is, we do not have a Democracy. I would be thrilled to have a democracy (which socialism is quite compatible with)
How is the USA not a democracy?
 

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Good morning blues said:
This pamphlet does not actually say anything. It has a lot of pretty words and strategic capitalization, but it fails to offer anything other than a statement that we need to "unite" and "take the power away from the super-wealthy and political elite and put it back in the hands of the people," without any sort of statement on how we are supposed to do so, what we are supposed to replace that system with, and is pretty unclear on why we should even do so (yes, yes, because equality is important, but why is equality important, what are the negative effects of inequality, and how can we get rid of inequality?).

Basically, this pamphlet is incapable of inciting anyone to action because it does not specify what action they should take, or why they should take it. It needs to devote some space to those concerns.
This is the first part of a pamphlet that will contain what you said was lacking. My only intention with this part was to state a need for a removal of the current system to preserve our liberties. Part 2 will discuss specific ideology and possibly method of revolt.
 

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Inverse Skies said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
the problem is, we do not have a Democracy. I would be thrilled to have a democracy (which socialism is quite compatible with)
How is the USA not a democracy?
The USA is an imperialistic state, resembling Rome or Britain, in which the citizens live with relative freedom (although throughout the years it has been abridged many times, most recently through the USAPATRIOT Act) and in wealth at the expense of the exploitation of the third world.
 

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Inverse Skies said:
2012 Wont Happen said:
the problem is, we do not have a Democracy. I would be thrilled to have a democracy (which socialism is quite compatible with)
How is the USA not a democracy?
Using elected officials, who, in turn gain a higher class because of it make the decisions for a people not fully involved in the process is, in essence, the first perversion of a true democracy. However, what Canada and the US have is one of the only feasable ways to provide a democracy, seeing that keeping everyone in the loop about everything is a tad... well... absurd on a large scale.

The very fact that people do not have full, equal say in what goes down in the legal system shows that democracy(As being true, consider the current system neo-democracy) has failed in its roots.