We have MUCH less gun-crime. And I mean hundreds of times less. Guns are a rare thing here in the UK. You can potentially be arrested for carrying a penknife in school.
A question for the Brits and Aussies.
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Your phrasing suggests (to me, at least) that there is a lot of such behavior going on, and we are finding out about it more.Abandon4093 said:
I argue that there is very little, but what is is over-exaggerated.
Are we in alignment, or opposition?
No.
No under-age people EVER get pregnant here.
And no rape either.
/sarcasm
Although, our gun crime (at least for the UK) is much lower...
No under-age people EVER get pregnant here.
And no rape either.
/sarcasm
Although, our gun crime (at least for the UK) is much lower...
We dont have anything as major, mostly because we cant have pistols or easily concelead weapons, just rimfire rifles and shotguns.
You don't get much gun crime in britan. Underage sex is stupidly common though. Only yesterday did i hear about one of my classmates having sex with someone underage (They were too).
aaaand we had a year 8 (13 year old) have a baby a month or two ago. Drugs too, but i think thats just the area i live in....
But gun crime? Almost never heard of it in britan. I think the last time i heard of it was Raul moat, and he was almost a year ago if memory serves, and i don't rememeber hearing about it before that.
aaaand we had a year 8 (13 year old) have a baby a month or two ago. Drugs too, but i think thats just the area i live in....
But gun crime? Almost never heard of it in britan. I think the last time i heard of it was Raul moat, and he was almost a year ago if memory serves, and i don't rememeber hearing about it before that.
Well guns are basically banned in the UK, not sure of the exact law so they might not be "banned" exactly but i do know they're extremely difficult to get hold of so they might as well be.
As for the sex, well sort of the same i guess? The media likes to harp on about it but that's no measure of frequency, since the media is basically obligated to use the most outragious stories it can find, misquote a few people and if you're being fancy put every second word in bold so you look like srs bsns
As for the sex, well sort of the same i guess? The media likes to harp on about it but that's no measure of frequency, since the media is basically obligated to use the most outragious stories it can find, misquote a few people and if you're being fancy put every second word in bold so you look like srs bsns
It doesn't happen anywhere near as often - but please remember that we're a tiny, tiny island, and you're freaking huge. You're bound to have more crazies than the UK. If we worked out a kray-kray percentage of each nation, I'm not totally convinced we'd be so different Admittedly you guys probably wouldn't have so many problems if you didn't hand out guns quite so easily, but um, cough.
Also, the 25% of the world's prisoners thing... every time there's a documentary on tv about America's prison system, it seems like part of the reason for that statistic is a) you put people in jail for lesser crimes than we do and b) you don't let them out, like, ever. I'm wondering if that statistic says more about the US system's attitude toward rehabilitation that it does about how "bad" the US is.
Also, the 25% of the world's prisoners thing... every time there's a documentary on tv about America's prison system, it seems like part of the reason for that statistic is a) you put people in jail for lesser crimes than we do and b) you don't let them out, like, ever. I'm wondering if that statistic says more about the US system's attitude toward rehabilitation that it does about how "bad" the US is.
Uh, yeah.
Actually though, I think we have less of a problem with the underage sex thing, because as is pointed out 'medically accurate sex ed is better than abstinence only sex ed.' We believe in instructing our young people in at least reasonably accurate sexual health. (We might not do it well all the time, but at least we do it better than Texas and indeed most of the United States)
We obviously have much less gun crime, though still more than we'd like, but our gang crime rates and related violent crimes are still up there.
But then again, in the years Labour was in power crime rates dropped pretty steadily, even as more laws were introduced. Usually introducing more laws leads to a rise because more stuff is illegal, but instead there was a huge drop off in all crime in Britain.
The condemnation statistics are a bit skewed of course, because since they came into power they've had three full scale civilian uprisings, revolts, riots, whatever-you-want-to-call thems. Not that I'm saying that the condemnation is a bad government, just that there hasn't been as much uprising since the last time Thatcher was in power, and the Labour government faced less dispute over the fucking War in Iraq
Actually though, I think we have less of a problem with the underage sex thing, because as is pointed out 'medically accurate sex ed is better than abstinence only sex ed.' We believe in instructing our young people in at least reasonably accurate sexual health. (We might not do it well all the time, but at least we do it better than Texas and indeed most of the United States)
We obviously have much less gun crime, though still more than we'd like, but our gang crime rates and related violent crimes are still up there.
But then again, in the years Labour was in power crime rates dropped pretty steadily, even as more laws were introduced. Usually introducing more laws leads to a rise because more stuff is illegal, but instead there was a huge drop off in all crime in Britain.
The condemnation statistics are a bit skewed of course, because since they came into power they've had three full scale civilian uprisings, revolts, riots, whatever-you-want-to-call thems. Not that I'm saying that the condemnation is a bad government, just that there hasn't been as much uprising since the last time Thatcher was in power, and the Labour government faced less dispute over the fucking War in Iraq
Firstly let me say that I?m a British subject and I?ve never had the good fortune to visit the United States, but I hope one day I?ll take a tour (when I?m a millionaire porn star, naturally.)
But from what I understand, be it by careful analysis or sheer stereotyping ignorance is we don?t have one tenth of a gun problem the USA does. Although there?s actually still a large grey area, since the Dunblane Massacre of ?96 gun laws became especially strict (you will get an X-year mandatory sentence on the spot if you are caught with a gun without a really good excuse.)
As for teenage pregnancy and general violence with or without sexual violations the UK has all of those things, and always has done, as does every country to varying degrees depending on wealth and power. The grass ain?t much greener.
My statistics might be out of date, but I?d be amazed if there had been a radical shift in them over the past few years and I?m pretty sure if you removed gun crime and removed nationalised health care and ranked the US states with the most affluent, educated and peaceful at the top to the most impoverished, ignorant and criminal at the bottom, the UK would rank somewhere in the middle.
Things we do have in common include the worst drug problem of the first world and two massive cunts that ruled during the 80?s.
Oh, and if I have to see that Futurama picture again I might just have to strangle the internet.
But from what I understand, be it by careful analysis or sheer stereotyping ignorance is we don?t have one tenth of a gun problem the USA does. Although there?s actually still a large grey area, since the Dunblane Massacre of ?96 gun laws became especially strict (you will get an X-year mandatory sentence on the spot if you are caught with a gun without a really good excuse.)
As for teenage pregnancy and general violence with or without sexual violations the UK has all of those things, and always has done, as does every country to varying degrees depending on wealth and power. The grass ain?t much greener.
My statistics might be out of date, but I?d be amazed if there had been a radical shift in them over the past few years and I?m pretty sure if you removed gun crime and removed nationalised health care and ranked the US states with the most affluent, educated and peaceful at the top to the most impoverished, ignorant and criminal at the bottom, the UK would rank somewhere in the middle.
Things we do have in common include the worst drug problem of the first world and two massive cunts that ruled during the 80?s.
Oh, and if I have to see that Futurama picture again I might just have to strangle the internet.
TBH, we in the UK pretty much take the piss out of the USA for things like this.
We get a lot of stories of political correctness being taken too far etc but mostly only Conservatives take those seriously.
We get a lot of stories of political correctness being taken too far etc but mostly only Conservatives take those seriously.
America, Australia and Britain are all a part of Western society and on a basic level are very similar. Having said that there are cultural differences which I imagine would make a difference to individuals.
I lived in England for two years of my childhood (8 - 10) and even then I noticed some slight differences between England and Australia and from what I've heard and seen of America there's some serious differences between our countries.
I guess what I'm saying is that it doesn't seem right to compare these three countries in this way. America, to me, seems like it's a far more extremist society whereas I see Australia as being quite laid back. I'm not sure how well I'm getting my point across but I've always seen each countries citizens as having a quite distinct way about them in a round-a-bout way.
I lived in England for two years of my childhood (8 - 10) and even then I noticed some slight differences between England and Australia and from what I've heard and seen of America there's some serious differences between our countries.
I guess what I'm saying is that it doesn't seem right to compare these three countries in this way. America, to me, seems like it's a far more extremist society whereas I see Australia as being quite laid back. I'm not sure how well I'm getting my point across but I've always seen each countries citizens as having a quite distinct way about them in a round-a-bout way.
Yeah, we even have a TV programme about it called "underage and pregnant" where you see 14/15 year olds having kids (yeah, I'm not making this up). They even have to juggle school life with looking after a baby, it's so wrong i can't stand to watch it.Kopikatsu said:I'd hope that last bit isn't true. 'Cause if it is...then...Abandon4093 said:
Also, I see girls who don't look a day older than 17 on the bus with babies all the time (even though that's okay in this country as age of consent is 16, it's still rather bad). My Mum was 17 even when she had me, she's 40 now which is kinda weird and screwy, as she's not even half my age.
Happens everywhere, American media just has a fetish for tracking and publishing these stories. That and something that I can't really lay my finger on the makes a large percentage... Retarded.
We do have a younger age of consent than most of America (16 universally over here) but that is only part of it, no idea how many people actually pay attention to the age of consent over here.Hawkmoon269 said: