A question for you Britons here.......

mental_looney

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glyn said:
mental_looney said:
Shrug they aren't in my house and I don't break the law or anything so them watching me as I wander around town or in shops is hardly a big deal, however it's only really an issue in cities.
Yeah, mental loongey...
It's not a big deal in towns but is in cities! You're going to have to explain that one a bit more

Sorry I will clarify that. "however it's only really an issue in larger centres of population. It's not like there are cameras on the streets of every tiny village like the one I live in. However I can only really comment for Scotland having not been really anywhere in England. Camera installations on the street are not as prevalent but are still in shops and train stations and bus stations and those kind of places."



Oh and BTW there is no g in looney. :)
 

Magicmad5511

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Doesn't bother me. It helps to catch criminals and doesn't damage anyone directly. Being watched doesn't bother me mainly because I never do anything I wouldn't want caught on camera in public. They only become an issue when your doing something you don't want to be seen, and if you don't want it to be seen don't do it in fron of a camera in public.
 

Kekkles

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Where I live, they're all fake. Or broken. Everyone knows that here but yet we're more peaceful; no one would fight, in case they might be working on the off chance and no one complains that their privacy is taken away. It's quite nice really.
 

tharglet

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Personally they've never bothered me, then again I don't live in a big city.

Quite a few of them are pretty pointless because they're not good enough cameras, so you get a few reports of "yeah there was a crime but zero clues who it was".

As for speed cameras... they're pretty meh. My partner did get caught by one once, and got the choice of the speed awareness course.
Apparently in Reading, very few of the camera sites are active at any one time - they only have so many "innards", which they move from place to place. He also found out he drives slightly faster than average, but has slightly above average reactions lol.
Where I live, pretty much all the static sites are now decommissioned. Few years back I remember seeing one camera that had been burnt... never got replaced.
 

Jason Fayers

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I honestly don't get the "it's a violation of my privacy" argument, in a public place people are allowed to record the public, people always complain that there are no police on the street but if there were we'ld all feel 'oppressed'. Whiners gonnna whine.

My only problem is that CCTV doesn't seem cost effective, however, not having seen the figures that's just a feeling and not fact.

The ones that tell you off are pretty funny, and they make getting traffic cones home that much more rewarding.

But seriously, the real problem people have with CCTV (in my opinion) is not the CCTV, but that we don't trust our government with sensetive data (they have had a track record of leaving it on taxis, tains and busses or just out right loosing it) and by extention we don't trust the police.
 

the.gill123

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No, I'm in public, so I don't care who sees me, if I found out there was a CCTV camera in my house, then I would have a problem, but as I said, no, I'm in a public place so I couldn't give two hoots.
 

Evrant-Knight

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no not really, camera's round by my neck of the woods are mainly in the city centre, so not much to complain about in terms of a privacy breach
 

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CannibalCorpses said:
it didn't save me from getting an 80 quid fine for swearing on my telephone.
Wtf? Fined for swearing? I remember hearing about some initiative somewhere.... but if anyone ever had the audacity to complain about me uttering a rude word in a public place I'd want to defend my right to talk as I please as long as I'm not deliberately doing it to be obnoxious ><.
 

ryderawsome

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i think most of the camera footage is watched only if something was reported as going down in the area or if its somewhere really crowded.
 

Disgruntled_peasant

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Shadowsafter said:
Caligulas.dog said:
I am not from the UK, but I once made holiday there. One night we got drunk and were weaving over a street as out of the sudden a voice out of a speaker told us, that we are not allowed to weave here. As a someone from a country that is really ***** about cameras and privacy (Germany) I found that highly disturbing. My friend then kicked down a bin and we run away.
Hold on a bloody second I just read this and, WHAT?
I have never encountered any of this sort of thing in all my 16 years of living here.
The only place I'd expect to encounter such a thing is in YOUR country of Germany (Circa 1942)

I call thee a LIAR!
Plenty of security cameras have in built speakers so that the security people can address the public with them, so yeah, his story is most likely true.

Whilst some people go overboard with the whole "orwell was right!!" crap, it certainly is not a pleasant situation we are in with this country, people are getting more and more paranoid and spout the absolutely stupid chant of "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear!".

Its a slippery slope.
 

Vie

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I have one right outside my house, I rather like it.

Mostly because prior to its instillation we had 6 murders in a 5 year period - just on my street. Including one man who was stabbed in the gut with a broken bottle outside my home, and crawled two streets away with his guts dragging behind him before dying.

Oh and two gunfights in the same period, and about 15 drugs raids.

Ooo! And a Brothel!
 

CannibalCorpses

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tharglet said:
CannibalCorpses said:
it didn't save me from getting an 80 quid fine for swearing on my telephone.
Wtf? Fined for swearing? I remember hearing about some initiative somewhere.... but if anyone ever had the audacity to complain about me uttering a rude word in a public place I'd want to defend my right to talk as I please as long as I'm not deliberately doing it to be obnoxious ><.
Yeah, the police officer who arrested me thought that me telling my mate to fuck off on the telephone while standing in the taxi queue to go home was the precursor to violence. Because i was under the influence of alcahol i wasn't allowed to defend myself properly. Damn i hate the police and the system that allows them to get away with shit like that.
 

Iron Mal

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The cameras are really only a problem for the people who actually do something worth observing (namely the sorts of people we should be keeping tabs on).

If you seriously think that the cameras are watching you and marking down everywhere you go and everything you do then either you're doing something shadey (in which case I'm glad you're aware that we're onto you) or you're paranoid and delusional (in which case it was probably the tin foil hat and X-Files shirt that drew attention to you).
 

ShindoL Shill

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it doesnt bother me until we turn into a megacity and get thought police.

btw the term is briton.
 

SenseOfTumour

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I'm not against it in principle, however, I'd scrap 80% of them and use the money saved to get GOOD ones, that can produce decent face shots and legally admissible evidence, because without that, there's no point having them except to intimididate the public.

My main bugbear with camera is parking cameras, private companies have cameras and just use them to flood the country with seemingly random fines, knowing at about 50 pence a letter, and £60-80 a ticket, they can send a sackful of IRL spam, and if one person pays up, they're in profit.

My parents recently got done, for dropping me off to do some shopping, then coming back to pick me up and do their own. They're contesting it tho, and I've also done my research, and they've got no legal basis to apply a fine, so fuck em.

Even if their 'no return in 2 hours' thing applied to a drop off of a customer, they're not the government or police, they can't just make the law, and if you're fining your own customers for coming to shop with you, then you're not doing 'customer service' very well.

Anyways, partially irrelevant rant aside, I'm generally for them, but they need to be better, and we need to have some kind of standards on them, so it doesn't end up being run by the same kind of twats who run car parks.

Else we'll be getting letters stating 'we have camera footage of you lowering your arm, and later on a coke can was seen in the area, therefore we are issuing a £80 fine for littering'.

Fuck em.
 

MightyRabbit

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Well the cameras aren't allowed in private residences or at an angle where they can see things like inside changing cubicles or what you're doing on the toilet and with them being so omnipresent throughout our lives most people don't even realise it's an excessive number until it's pointed out to them. We all just kinda assumed this is how the rest of the world had it.

Personally, they don't bother me. But they don't seem to do much either, they don't statistically prevent crime or lead to arrests significantly but they're not really doing me any harm.