A question on cartoons

[ShadeOfRed]

Same thing happened with cigars and liberal cross-dressing. Paranoia from parents, afraid their kids would become violent, smoking gender confused adults. This is why I can barely watch TV anymore.

 

[esperandote]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhereDidTheyGetLasers

^Pretty much this

Looking back we watched some violent shows.

lots of interesting examples.

?In Super Smash Bros Brawl, it was specifically said that Solid Snake could not use guns... but his rocket launcher, mortar, grenades, and land mines are all good.

?The Street fighter cartoon adaptation had a chinese drug cartel using laser guns. Also in the Final fight episode, the bad guy used a wheelchair with lasers.

In the cartoons based on The Legend Of Zelda, Link couldn't kill the enemies by stabbing them with his sword like in the games. Instead, he had to defeat them by shooting them with the Sword Beams ? which are also in the games, but are only available at full health and thus aren't used as much as regular stabbing. In one episode, Link foolishly trades his sword for a fancier one which, he discovers at a critical moment, does not shoot laser beams. This renders him entirely defenseless despite the fact that the replacement is still a fully functional sword.

*facepalm*

I heard that tom & jerry is the most violent cartoon ever.

 

[hungoverbear]

I know it was that way during the 80's but Batman The Animated Series brought guns back into cartoons. Bruce Timm actually argued with the TV company saying that it would be very lame and out of character for batman to be dodging lasers. So Fox (i think it was Fox) said that it would be ok to use guns BUT they couldnt be heavily detailed. However that changed in the later seasons. For example I remember an episode were Commisioner Gordon was in the hospital, and a man came in to finish him off. They had a close up of the the man squeezing the trigger, the chamber starting to spin and the hammer going back, just as batman enters and throws a batter-rang into the barrel causeing the gun to blow up in the guys hand. Come to think of it they got away with a lot of things in that show.

I've started watching episodes of B:TAS online recently, and they really are better than the stuff you get now. And there's no nostalgia effect playing a part in my appreciation of that show, I was about 2 years old when the final season came off the air.

Holy crap, you and Kuchinawa212 are making me feel old the show came out when i was 7. When it first came out it was very edgy and controversial. I remember some of my friends couldnt watch the show because their parents thought it was too violent. The show is actually rated #1 animated series of all time by several popular publishers and i think it won a few Emmy's (not 100 percent sure though). I highly recommend that you guys pick it up on dvd just for the producers commentary. They talk about all the things they had to do to get by the censors, its very interesting.

 

[hungoverbear]

Because parents have gotten too paranoid about exposing their kids to violence.

Same reason they pulled that shit with ET. It's stupid. I grew up on Looney Toons, with it's ultra-violent hilarity, and I ended up fine! (And as tempting as it is to put a *twitch* or something like that here, I feel like being serious. So seriously, I'm fine.)

That's the irony of it- kids who woke up on Saturdays and watched Elmer Fudd, Bugs, and Foghorn turned out better than lots of kids nowadays that watch the newest crap about hyperactive kappa robots from beyond the third moon of Omicron Persei 8.

Maybe it's because those cartoons were actually good? Or is it because they were quasi-realistic... at least once you got past the concept of a smart ass talking rabbit.

Spoiler: Nice Futurama reference.

And I agree with your view - no kids really turn out bad and gun crazed because of stuff like Looney Tunes, it's when they stay up late, and watch TV charaters actually die.

Agreed, What disturbs me is the amount of kids that watch the CSI series. I know the show is crap but my god it is incredibly graphic. For example, yesterday i watched the first 10 minutes of a CSI New York episode, and this woman got sawed in half. Not only did they show the body (which looked incredibly realistic) but they also showed the woman screaming in agony while she was getting sawed in half. I'm sorry but i think that will fuck a kid up more than Daffy Duck getting shot by a shotgun and having his beak spin around several times.

 

[snaaaake]

I believe that we have to keep it friendly and because parents complained. Which makes no sense because we're letting 5 year olds playing GTA ( or at least in Wisconsin). Second kids like lasers because they think it's cool ( blame star wars).

 

[Jharry5]

I think its because parents began to worry that kids seeing a cartoon character weilding a gun would do the same thing. So they made the cartoons more friendly.

 

[Ultress]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhereDidTheyGetLasers

^Pretty much this

Looking back we watched some violent shows.

lots of interesting examples.

?In Super Smash Bros Brawl, it was specifically said that Solid Snake could not use guns... but his rocket launcher, mortar, grenades, and land mines are all good.

?The Street fighter cartoon adaptation had a chinese drug cartel using laser guns. Also in the Final fight episode, the bad guy used a wheelchair with lasers.

In the cartoons based on The Legend Of Zelda, Link couldn't kill the enemies by stabbing them with his sword like in the games. Instead, he had to defeat them by shooting them with the Sword Beams ? which are also in the games, but are only available at full health and thus aren't used as much as regular stabbing. In one episode, Link foolishly trades his sword for a fancier one which, he discovers at a critical moment, does not shoot laser beams. This renders him entirely defenseless despite the fact that the replacement is still a fully functional sword.

*facepalm*

I heard that tom & jerry is the most violent cartoon ever.

It may be but damn was it funny.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

it's because kids learn things from the tv and not their parents of course so they had to switch to laser guns

you don't get things like you did in the old cartoons. i still remember there being a big thing about Roy dying in Robotech and not coming back

 

[clicketycrack]

Because soccer moms are the biggest assholes in the universe. If you don't believe me, think about how many good shows have been destroyed thanks to the help of soccer moms. Just look at Angry Beavers. Hell, just look what they did to the FBI agents in E.T.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

I got one more thing

How come all the faceless redshirts are robots? I mean come on. It worked for Samurai Jack but in other stuff like (and I'm just spit balling here) Ironman: armored adventure which I managed to watch the first 7 minutes of, it just seems annoying and out of place.

why can't be go back to teh good old days?

 

[megapenguinx]

Because parents don't like gun guns. Gun guns fire bullets and bullets generally show blood which is a big no no in today's children cartoons.

 

[LongAndShort]

I know it was that way during the 80's but Batman The Animated Series brought guns back into cartoons. Bruce Timm actually argued with the TV company saying that it would be very lame and out of character for batman to be dodging lasers. So Fox (i think it was Fox) said that it would be ok to use guns BUT they couldnt be heavily detailed. However that changed in the later seasons. For example I remember an episode were Commisioner Gordon was in the hospital, and a man came in to finish him off. They had a close up of the the man squeezing the trigger, the chamber starting to spin and the hammer going back, just as batman enters and throws a batter-rang into the barrel causeing the gun to blow up in the guys hand. Come to think of it they got away with a lot of things in that show.

It was an awesome show. Have you seen some of the new animated batmans? I watched one with my brother the other day 'Batman; the brave and the Bold' and was disgusted by it. Batman's become a preachy dick. They don't even have the old villains.

 

[LongAndShort]

I got one more thing

How come all the faceless redshirts are robots? I mean come on. It worked for Samurai Jack but in other stuff like (and I'm just spit balling here) Ironman: armored adventure which I managed to watch the first 7 minutes of, it just seems annoying and out of place.

why can't be go back to teh good old days?

You gotta remember in the original Ironman the bad guy was a space wizard who occasionally summoned a space dragon to help him. Compared with that its hard to find things that are out of place. But I agree. It pains me to say it but we need fewer robots on cartoons.

 

[Gerazzi]

ray weapon = no blood.

= unhappy Gerazzi.
D:<

Yeah, Looney Toons is all I'm showing my kids in order to spite the system.

 

[Sigel]

Because guns don't kill people, cartoons with guns kill people.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

Because guns don't kill people, cartoons with guns kill people.

Heh funny.

But can you guys think of any recent shows that guns? I can't come up with a single one

 

[rickthetrick]

Wow just think they used to have marlboro commercials on during lone ranger radio shows, and now they think that a cartoon showing a gun is going to end the world. Man this world has gone so pansy assed.

 

[Prowers]

Why doesn't anything ever change?!?! If a person wins a big house, they miss their old house and go back home. If they get a big brother, they get rid of him and laugh away. And my biggest question, why must they always stay same age!?!?!

 

[Bored Tomatoe]

Whiny, overprotective parents + free time + networks who don't understand that they can ignore the pricks = things being removed that didn't need to.