A side character who was better than the hero

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L9OBL

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really any support character but my most favourite is Daxter from the Jack and Daxter series. or Mordin from Mass effect 2
 

PleasantAsAHeadcrab

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putowtin said:
PleasantAsAHeadcrab said:
For what it's worth, I've always found Rebecca and Shaun infinitely more interesting than Desmond and Lucy in Assassin's Creed.
we need a game of just Rebecca and Shaun... ok theat's asking alot, just drop fish lips and the rest I'll be fine!
YOU KNOW WHAT. I'm going to program a game about Shaun and Becca traveling around the world beating up gangsters and adopting cats. Because that's exactly the sort of thing I can imagine Rebecca trying to force Shaun to do.
 

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Most of the Gears of War cast that wasn't Marcus or Dom. I thought their banter was a lot more interesting.
 

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PleasantAsAHeadcrab said:
putowtin said:
PleasantAsAHeadcrab said:
For what it's worth, I've always found Rebecca and Shaun infinitely more interesting than Desmond and Lucy in Assassin's Creed.
we need a game of just Rebecca and Shaun... ok theat's asking alot, just drop fish lips and the rest I'll be fine!
YOU KNOW WHAT. I'm going to program a game about Shaun and Becca traveling around the world beating up gangsters and adopting cats. Because that's exactly the sort of thing I can imagine Rebecca trying to force Shaun to do.
thank you for that amazing mental image just before I go to bed!
(though that would be totally mental and entertaining!)
 

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Does it have to be games? Because if not...

Ash was a mug, the worst goddamn Pokemon trainer ive ever seen. He was also reeeeeeally annoying and a complete idiot, im surprised he realised what a Pikachu was the amount of times he had to whip out his Pok'e'dex. Misty and Brock on the other hand were legend. They were just so much more funny and driven in terms of character development, Ash just fell into that bloody category of characters that thought "believing" was enough.

Characters like that bug the crap out of me... its just so... lazy.
 

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The Arbiter is honestly the only thing I ever liked about Halo. And I'm definitely more interested in Jansen than Kaim in Lost Odyssey.

Outside of video games the most recent case of this for me was in Inside Straight by George R. R. Martin.

People across the globe have been given super powers by an alien virus. Egypt is being gripped by genocide against "Jokers" people who have been physically deformed by the virus.

Hollywood holds a contest called "American Hero" looking for the next great Ace (superhero). Most of the book the hero (i can't remember his name for the life of me atm) is a man who worked as a production assistant on the show who leaves for Egypt after being possessed by a female Egyptian ace long thought to be dead.

The real hero for me is Rustbelt,a contestant on the show, a country boy from a backwoods mining town "gifted" with literal iron skin, superhuman strength, and the power to rust metal (other than his own) to dust with a touch. Late in the book, after being ostracized for much of it after being accused of racism by another contestant, he walks out of the final voting ceremony and goes to the airport intending to join the fight in Egypt. He gets there to find that most of the other contestants have decided to join him in being a REAL hero.

He doesn't have a huge part in what comes after but he really comes into his own in later books in the series. Particularly Suicide Kings.
 

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Lightning Delight said:
The Arbiter from Halo 2/3. That guy was so cool, and he had a personality. When Master Chief was all "Grr. I kill things now," Arby was making fun of prophets as he killed them. It's too bad he got shunted to the side in Halo 3.
Amen to that. The Arbiter's little revenge story was a lot more interesting than anything going on with Master Chief, and The Arbiter's voice actor just made it a whole lot cooler.

The thing with so many games is that while the developers will give intricate and interesting personalities to side characters, the main character is usually leveled down to a camera with legs, and then the developers say "A Hurr-durr, Yore Supossed to pUt youR own puRsonalitee thear, a hurrrr." That's not immersion, that's an excuse for not wanting to write anything.
 

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Azure Knight-Zeo said:
Unless he go better after I quit the series, just about every character was better than Naruto.
Naruto is at least likable... just abit boring. Especially when compared to characters as legendary as this gentle men
 

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I saw a lot of people mention video games as examples and I think this is typical of the problem with video games. The developer doesn?t want to do anything with the playable character which would make you not want to play as that person so they do it by striping all identity and personality from them. In the most extreme cases, the playable character will not have a voice or face.

Because of this practice it is almost certain that a secondary character is going to be better written and more interesting.
 

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Phlakes said:
I'd like to direct your attention to FFXII. Unless you count someone else as the hero anyway. Which you should.
You sir win for fastest FFXII mention in a character thread... also I agree with you. Balthier awesome and cool, what's-his-girly-face-person not so much. Vaan? Get hit by a vaan vaan... GAH!
 

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the spud said:
I think I speak for everyone when I say:
His cutting remarks always made me laugh...
NINJA!!!

OT: I think we can all agree that the adoring fan from Oblivion was 1000x times better than the protagonist.
 

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theLadyBugg said:
I lose major girl points for even thinking this but Xander Harris put a lot more on the line to fight evil than Buffy (the Vampire Slayer) ever could.
Taking into account that he was pretty much a normal guy surrounded by demons, vampires, and the slayer it makes him even more awesome.


OT: I would not be opposed to a game where Tails is the main protagonist and Sonic is out of commission or something.

Also a Halo game where you play as Cortana hacking through Covenant ships and into data streams, being able to lead the Chief indirectly, taking control of an orbital MAC platform or warship.

Both Tails and Cortana are more relatable to me than Sonic and the Chief.
 

Vrex360

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The Arbiter from the Halo trilogy is superior to the Masterchief in almost every way, better look, better voice actor, better character arc etc.
He's the real deal.

Also it must be said that Ben Carmine was my favorite of all the Cogs in Gears of War 2, in fact he was literally the sole point of emotional engagement I had in the story so when he died, I just focussed on gameplay and nothing else.
 

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I'd have to say, I preferred Emile from Halo:Reach to Noble 6. He was just more fun to watch. Then again, you wouldn't be as "noble" going into battle alone...