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Knight Templar

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Baulder's Gate II is one of the best games of all time, give it a try.
Of course Western RPG's have a lot more variety, in gameplay anyway, they still have the problem that most game have with story. Anyway my point is two games under that one lable can be very diffrent in gameplay, so don't start to dislike them after the first one.
 

grimsprice

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fierydemise said:
grimsprice said:
Depends on what you like about RPG's. Do you like the elegant storytelling? then maybe you should just stick with JRPGS. If you like customizing your character and being who you want to be, then WRPG's are for you!
I'm slightly confused by the comment about elegant storytelling, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment and a number of the other classics in the genre all have absolutely amazing storytelling. Certainly many of the more open world games lack a strong story but the genre as a whole is characterized by strong storytelling.
I wasn't saying that either areas RPGs have or have not any particular thing, I'm just saying they have tendencies. Most JRPGs tend to lead you along more than WRPGS. I don't like linear games, so i stick with WRPGS.
 

About To Crash

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Well, I'd have to say that there's a very large difference, despite what Therumancer says. While, yes, the history and such nonsense is there, the games have far more differences than similarities. I was a hardcore fan of JRPGs, and I asked a friend for a recommendation to a WRPG, and like so many people here, he suggested Morrowind.

I hated it. So much. But I began to wonder why. In all the JRPGs I'd played, it was always fairly clear where to go and what to do, and it some area was going to have enemies too powerful to fight, then I'd know and be able to stay clear of it until I was ready. Morrowind, and indeed many WRPGs, have little of those things. The whole fundamental experience is different. In Morrowind, I decided I'd go for a walk, just to see what I could find, maybe fight some things, loot them, learn about the game's alchemy system, whatever. Well, I walked for a while, and then a very large Pterodactyl-like creature bit my nipples off. I died, and started again. I tried just locking around town and meeting people. In an effort to look a weapon, I accidentally picked it up, and was immediately slaughtered by the storekeeper who I guess no one realized was Odin.

What I'm trying to get at is that whatever one you try out, you're going to have an adjustment period to cope with. It may be jarring at first even. I've found one of the best to work with is Fallout 3. The land is expansive and creative, the creatures are fairly easy to escape from early on and won't follow you into towns... usually, and the storylines (main and secondary) are some of the most enticing and interesting I've encountered. Since then, WRPGs have really sucked me in, and I've enjoyed the experiences I've had with them immensely.
 

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Sandwich Man said:
He asked for WRPG's, he didn't specify good ones.

Also, they were notoriously buggy (kind of like anything made by a certain other company). Look for some patches and try again.
It's not the bugs. The games are just horribly made. Every fight in Gothic 2 takes a half hour because you have to save scrim to get through it. The quests are also poorly constructed, leaving you without a clue where to go next.
 

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Don't think I can ad much to this thread that haven't already been said, but if you're gonna play just ONE wrpg over the course of your entire life, then play kotor.
 

ottenni

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Its a matter of style. Expect a huge difference from JRPG's. Morrowind is great if you just want to do what you want, but if you need a clear direction and a reassuringly pat on the back when you start (Morrowind was cruel and gave you no hints) then you might want something else.
 

Sandwich Man

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BloodSquirrel said:
It's not the bugs. The games are just horribly made. Every fight in Gothic 2 takes a half hour because you have to save scrim to get through it. The quests are also poorly constructed, leaving you without a clue where to go next.
Really? I never had a problem with either of those. Maybe you were missing something?
 

bigolbear

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heres a simple list of some very good ones:

ON PC:
baldurs gate, (1, 2 and all the add ons) - note. baldurs gate for the consoles was a differnt game, basicly a hack and slash.
planescape torment
neverwinters knights (1 and 2 and all the add ons)
Starwars - Knights of the old republic (1 and 2)
dungeon seige

On console and pc:
oblivion
morrowind
 

Troublesome Lagomorph

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Morrowind, Oblivion, Fable (The Lost Chapters), Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect, Jade Empire and all the Fallout games are great WRPGs to pick up. They are way more sandbox than JRPGs though.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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If you're primarily a JPRG fan I would avoid starting with the open world titles like Oblivion, Morrowind and Fallout 3, they have less story.

Start with Bioware titles,

Mass Effect
Knights of the Old Republic
Jade Empire

Then after that Fable 2 should be a good bet, then you can move into Fallout 3 and the other Bethesda titles.
 

Warchirf

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good argument, however i find that the better rpg is one that incorporates both qualities of jrpg and wrpg. i find KOTOR a fine example, where it is linear, as jrpgs are, but it still allows the gmaer to controll the fate of the hero, much like modern wrpg's. kotor also had an excelent story and the gameplay was just as good. so, with this example, it should be clear that if the two genras mixed there wualities more games like kotor would be produced.

BTW, this is a reply to thuromancer... i forgot to choose 'reply' -_-;;
 

Chicago Ted

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All I feel I need to say right now is Mass Effect. I've really come to appreciate it a lot more recently and can't wait for the next one.
 

crabwaffles

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I haven't really played any JRPGs, but I really like WRPGs, so I would play some. Especially oblivion and fallout 3.
 

userwhoquitthesite

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Morrowind is one of the best WRPGs ever made. If you have never played an open-world rpg, however, I don't recommend it as a start. The sheer hugeness of the world and lack of clear paths will terrify you. Then again, if you are the sort of person that jumps into cold water rather than inch in, it might be perfect. Either way, Fable is a good choice as well.

Now I miss my XBOX... I need new cables and controllers
 

scar-x-

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JRPGs are nice sometimes, not quite my thing, but there are good ones like Chrono Trigger. Western RPGs tend to allow for more exploratory freedom and allow for more choices. My fave's are Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Oblivion, and Diablo 2.

I also happen to be an FPS fan too. So there.
 

Emperor Inferno

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I greatly prefer WRPG's, Diablo and KOTOR being prime examples. JRPG's are just too... well, I'm sorry, I don't want to sound insulting, but they're stupid. Those are the worst story lines I've ever encountered in any media, and I detest strictly turn-based gameplay, especially with the typical Japanese approach (enemies or groups of enemies stand stock still facing each other, then leap out at their opponents with over the top attacks)

Also, this:

scar-x- said:
I also happen to be an FPS fan too. So there.
 

teutonicman

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Yeah man they're good hit that shit up. I'd recommend kotor 1 and 2, fallout 3, fable 2 for starters.
 

Guitarmasterx7

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Western RPGs seem to be generally an average build of another game engine (for example fallout 3 is an fps, fable 2 is an action/beat em up, mass effect is a gears of waresque third person shooter) with a large sandbox world and upgradable stats/skill trees. They also very rarely if ever make you a static character, you're generally just supposed to be either yourself or whatever character you want to try to be. Basically the only thing they hold in common with your quintessential JRPG is that your character levels up. I certainly don't think that's a bad thing, but then again I generally hate JRPGs...
 

NickCaligo42

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Oh good. Another thread to raise the question as to whether one form of fun and enjoyment is better than another.

They're different. You play Mega Man for a different kind of fun from Gears of War, and you play Mass Effect for a different kind of fun from Final Fantasy. Just try one and see if you enjoy it, and when that doesn't work, try another one. Really, when it comes to this sort of thing, I subscribe to the Tim Schafer philosophy: buy two of every console and six of every game! :D