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Pimppeter2

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Last of the Chinchillas said:
I should strangle you for having never touched Morrowind, but you're trying to better yourself so I'll forgive you this one time.
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OT: Go and Get Oblivion (or even Fallout) Right now
 

Booze Zombie

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I hate the hypocrisy.

Everyone complains about JRPGS always having super-strength teens with "silly hair", but it's alright to keep pumping out the same D&D-style setting?

Just depends on the individual game, really.
 

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Try Demon's Souls.

It's a western RPG by a Japanese developer, and its really really really good. (Also very difficult.)

It doesn't have much story, but it makes up for that with outstanding gameplay design.
 

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WRPGs can be great fun. They tend to follow more of a real-time combat format, but otherwise I think that they're essentially identical to JRPGs. Anyone here is free to correct me of that assumption, of course.
 

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Zetona said:
Try Demon's Souls.

It's a western RPG by a Japanese developer, and its really really really good. (Also very difficult.)

It doesn't have much story, but it makes up for that with outstanding gameplay design.
It's a JRPG jsut because it has gameplay/styleisation that matches western RPGs does not switch the tags lets not go making imaginary requirments now shall we. WRPGs are merley developed in the west and tend to be CRPGs.
 

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Bloody Crimson said:
Okay, so I've been a fan of JRPGs for a while. But I've never played a WRPG like Fable or Oblivion. So I have to ask:
Are they any good? If you are only an FPS fan, do not post in this thread.
Avoid Oblivion like the plague.
Stalker, Mass Effect and a few others are quite good. The first Fable was decent, but two I'd avoid.
Is there really any point in mentioning Borderlands?
 

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I love WRPG's, JRPG's, I (am no fanboy or anything), would have to agree on Yahtzee's perspective of them (if you've heard his version). But all in all, WRPG's are one of my favorite form of RPGs.
 

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Heathrow said:
WRPGs are better especially ones made by Bioware, try out Neverwinter Nights or Knights of the Old Republic and probably Dragon Age: Origins once it's released tomorrow.
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Bethesda RPG's are really good. It's a comfortable genre to play for anyone who grew up with western legends and sagas. Love Oblivion, Fallout, etc.
 

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Bloody Crimson said:
Thaius said:
They're very different. Mainly, modern Western RPGs are all about freedom, about letting the player shape the story. Japanese RPGs, on the other hand, are more about using the player to tell an amazing story that is more set in its course. Gameplay styles differ too, the most noticeable being that WRPGs use real-time combat: it's generally less strategic, but a bit more hands-on.

That said, you'll probably enjoy them if you get the right ones. But if you're looking for the epic stories of JRPGs, you'll be hard-pressed to find them in Western ones. I'd recommend Mass Effect and the Knights of the Old Republic games if you want the smoothest transition.

For the record, though, a Western composer has yet to even parallel Nobou Uematsu, so though there are some amazing musical scores, don't expect a soundtrack of Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy VII level.
I have to disagree with the Wrpgs only having real time. I've come across quite a few Real-time combat systems in Jrpgs.
Well my point wasn't so much that JRPGs never have real-time as that WRPGs always do. I've never seen a WRPG with a turn-based system; I'm sure it's been done before, but if so it was a while ago.
 

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dragon_of_red said:
I personnaly enjoy both, but it does seem to be the WRPG are more sandboxy than the JRPG counterparts.
this, but WRPGs also seem lacking in stories and character development which is a huge thing I love about JRPG's they have wonderful stories and good character development but I guess its all in what you want from the game
 

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BrynThomas said:
Bloody Crimson said:
Are they any good? If you are only an FPS fan, do not post in this thread.
What about FPSRPGs like Stalker and Borderlands?

But seriously yes they are good, go out and play Fallout 1, 2 and 3, Mass Effect, The Witcher, Morrowind, Oblivion, Arcanum, Planescape Torment, Stalker and many more great games.
Add Baldur's Gate to that list and you're my bestest friend ;)
 

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Neverwinter Nights (2 is pretty good too)
Mass Effect
Oblivion
KotOR

Get them!

I don't agree with Morrowind, though. I found it a real PITA and actually a bit rubbish. Generally though, anything by BioWare.
 

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- Any RPG made by Bioware(My personal favorites are Knights of the Old Republic 1, Mass Effect, Jade Empire, Dragon Age: Origins)

- Fallout 1, 2 and 3.

- Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2(1st is made by Bioware, 2nd by Obsidian)

- Fable 2. If you enjoyed Fable 1 you'll love 2. It's an 360 exclusive tho, so unless you have one cut this off the list.

- Morrowind+expansions(The graphics might turn you away, but there's mods that can make the game's graphics similar to Oblivion's)

- Oblivion+Expansions

- Kotor 2(Made by Obsidian)

All of these game(Except for KOTOR 1 and 2) are non-linear. You will find they are very different from JRPG's. I suggest you start with KOTOR(1 and 2).
 

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Baldur's Gate. Yet again plugging it. I still randomly play through these two games these days. But give it a try, you could also get baldur's gate 1&2 and run a mod to get baldur's gate 1 looking like baldur's gate 2 but i digress.

Morrowind, fallout series, Planescape Torment, Diablo1&2...

Possibly Oblivion but it's a bit bleh at times that game.

I'm of the opinion that Fable 2 was super shit, but Fable 1 was alright so that may be worth a try.

I like JRPGs as well, if you discover you're a fan of both you have alot of gaming hours sat there waiting for you.

edit: to include KotOR, Mass Effect and Neverwinter Nights.
 

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Thaius said:
Bloody Crimson said:
Thaius said:
They're very different. Mainly, modern Western RPGs are all about freedom, about letting the player shape the story. Japanese RPGs, on the other hand, are more about using the player to tell an amazing story that is more set in its course. Gameplay styles differ too, the most noticeable being that WRPGs use real-time combat: it's generally less strategic, but a bit more hands-on.

That said, you'll probably enjoy them if you get the right ones. But if you're looking for the epic stories of JRPGs, you'll be hard-pressed to find them in Western ones. I'd recommend Mass Effect and the Knights of the Old Republic games if you want the smoothest transition.

For the record, though, a Western composer has yet to even parallel Nobou Uematsu, so though there are some amazing musical scores, don't expect a soundtrack of Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy VII level.
I have to disagree with the Wrpgs only having real time. I've come across quite a few Real-time combat systems in Jrpgs.
Well my point wasn't so much that JRPGs never have real-time as that WRPGs always do. I've never seen a WRPG with a turn-based system; I'm sure it's been done before, but if so it was a while ago.
Ah, okay. Sorry!