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DethVanXan said:
Fellow Escapists, what do you think of a global organisation that is above the law?
I'm thinking of using a group like this in a story I want to write, here's what I've thought of so far...

- They would hunt down criminals deemed 'Too Guilty' to be given a fair trial.
- They would have to be top secret off course. Technically, they do not exist.
- Are above the law, able to do whatever it takes to complete a mission.
- Belong to no nation, takes their orders from the UN or some higher power (Illuminati etc)
- Members would be the Elite of the Elite from natioanl armies.

Those are my ideas for the group, I'll work on plot and characters once I've got this nailed.
Opinions and suggestions please.
That's the A-Team with some slight changes... if it matches their awesomeness then you may be fine (or sued, depending on how you go about it :p)

Should be a fun thing to write, but seriously, make sure you write out the entire plot, all the points, characters, character development BEFORE you write a single word of the actual story.

You don't need to show anyone, but a reference will help keep the characters consistent and stop the story going off on tangents.
 

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george bush and his junta come to mind as potential targets^^

i like the idea, though as the others said: carefull to avoid getting to close to the gi joe movie, judge dredd, watchmen and other stories with a similar base idea.
 

DethVanXan

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Kushin said:
DethVanXan said:
Fellow Escapists, what do you think of a global organisation that is above the law?
I'm thinking of using a group like this in a story I want to write, here's what I've thought of so far...

- They would hunt down criminals deemed 'Too Guilty' to be given a fair trial.
- They would have to be top secret off course. Technically, they do not exist.
- Are above the law, able to do whatever it takes to complete a mission.
- Belong to no nation, takes their orders from the UN or some higher power (Illuminati etc)
- Members would be the Elite of the Elite from natioanl armies.

Those are my ideas for the group, I'll work on plot and characters once I've got this nailed.
Opinions and suggestions please.
That's the A-Team with some slight changes... if it matches their awesomeness then you may be fine (or sued, depending on how you go about it :p)

Should be a fun thing to write, but seriously, make sure you write out the entire plot, all the points, characters, character development BEFORE you write a single word of the actual story.

You don't need to show anyone, but a reference will help keep the characters consistent and stop the story going off on tangents.
This was just to see whether or not the base idea was any good. I don't plan on getting around to writing this for a long time. Character bios, numerous plots and drafts have to been sorted out first.
 

Jordi

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I would definitely not want to see this in the real world. Like so many things, it sounds great as long as you (or people like you) are in charge and acting morally. But of course, that's not going to happen. And who's to say what is morally correct anyway? Roughly spoken: the Arabs will want to kill Bush or Shimon Peres, while the Americans might want to kill Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-il. Furthermore, errors are bound to be made. Hell, they're already made in lengthy court cases. What do you think will happen without the courts? And it's not like some (most?) countries haven't tried making an organization like this on a national level.

For a story, it could be really interesting though. It's easy to see the appeal in the idea, and it could start out going really well, but as time passes errors and questionable assassinations accumulate.
 

DethVanXan

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Jordi said:
I would definitely not want to see this in the real world. Like so many things, it sounds great as long as you (or people like you) are in charge and acting morally. But of course, that's not going to happen. And who's to say what is morally correct anyway? Roughly spoken: the Arabs will want to kill Bush or Shimon Peres, while the Americans might want to kill Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-il. Furthermore, errors are bound to be made. Hell, they're already made in lengthy court cases. What do you think will happen without the courts? And it's not like some (most?) countries haven't tried making an organization like this on a national level.

For a story, it could be really interesting though. It's easy to see the appeal in the idea, and it could start out going really well, but as time passes errors and questionable assassinations accumulate.
A lot of things happen in the real world that many of us wish didn't. For all we know an organisation like this might already exist. Human error and corruption will inevitably infiltrate and that is going to be one of the major points in the story.

Thanks for all the feedback guys. It definiatly helps fixing holes in any idea as well as creating new ideas.
 

YouCallMeNighthawk

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Don't these groups already exists? SAS? Navy Seals? (Others which i don't know of)

They have been sent on top secret missions before to kill leaders and dictators who are deemed "Too guilty".
 

DethVanXan

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YouCallMeNighthawk said:
Don't these groups already exists? SAS? Navy Seals? (Others which i don't know of)

They have been sent on top secret missions before to kill leaders and dictators who are deemed "Too guilty".
Yeah, but these are well known military forces who will occasionly be sent on a black ops mission that is offically denied. The group I am thinking of is a nationless neutral. Sort of a world police/army that goes around laws to do their job.
 

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DethVanXan said:
YouCallMeNighthawk said:
Don't these groups already exists? SAS? Navy Seals? (Others which i don't know of)

They have been sent on top secret missions before to kill leaders and dictators who are deemed "Too guilty".
Yeah, but these are well known military forces who will occasionly be sent on a black ops mission that is offically denied. The group I am thinking of is a nationless neutral. Sort of a world police/army that goes around laws to do their job.
Yeah i see what you mean, but it would seem easier keeping the SAS and Navy seals doing it secretly. Plus they pay them less. Just think how expensive this new group would be. For all we know a group like you have suggested probably does exist.
 

DethVanXan

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YouCallMeNighthawk said:
DethVanXan said:
YouCallMeNighthawk said:
Don't these groups already exists? SAS? Navy Seals? (Others which i don't know of)

They have been sent on top secret missions before to kill leaders and dictators who are deemed "Too guilty".
Yeah, but these are well known military forces who will occasionly be sent on a black ops mission that is offically denied. The group I am thinking of is a nationless neutral. Sort of a world police/army that goes around laws to do their job.
Yeah i see what you mean, but it would seem easier keeping the SAS and Navy seals doing it secretly. Plus they pay them less. Just think how expensive this new group would be. For all we know a group like you have suggested probably does exist.
You make a good point, but the SAS and SEALs are already part of world armies. Using the SAS as a world police would make them under the control of Britain and allow Britain to further their goals and follow their opinion of morality. Recruits would definatly be drawn from groups such as these, but once they are part of this new group they are neutral and in favor of no one country.
 

YouCallMeNighthawk

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DethVanXan said:
YouCallMeNighthawk said:
DethVanXan said:
YouCallMeNighthawk said:
Don't these groups already exists? SAS? Navy Seals? (Others which i don't know of)

They have been sent on top secret missions before to kill leaders and dictators who are deemed "Too guilty".
Yeah, but these are well known military forces who will occasionly be sent on a black ops mission that is offically denied. The group I am thinking of is a nationless neutral. Sort of a world police/army that goes around laws to do their job.
Yeah i see what you mean, but it would seem easier keeping the SAS and Navy seals doing it secretly. Plus they pay them less. Just think how expensive this new group would be. For all we know a group like you have suggested probably does exist.
You make a good point, but the SAS and SEALs are already part of world armies. Using the SAS as a world police would make them under the control of Britain and allow Britain to further their goals and follow their opinion of morality. Recruits would definatly be drawn from groups such as these, but once they are part of this new group they are neutral and in favor of no one country.
Yeah good point. But then again every countries has different opinions on who is too quilty to send this group after to kill, so i think alot of bickering would be going on causing friction between countries.

I would love to be part of that group though, sounds badd ass! :p
 

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What reason do you have to believe that an organisation like this doesn't already exist?
 

DethVanXan

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Tharwen said:
What reason do you have to believe that an organisation like this doesn't already exist?
I'm not saying it doesn't already exist. Just offically it doesn't exist, like the many state-sanctioned assassinations that we all know happened.
 

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Tharwen said:
What reason do you have to believe that an organisation like this doesn't already exist?
Bum bum BUMMMMMMMMMM

Erhm.

Group sounds interesting. Done a lot, but hard to be original nowadays, there's a good chance it's been done before.
 

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It would be more interesting and controversial if they were not above the law and acted on their own sense of justice. So that they had to watch out for the police and law enforcers. Clearing countrys from crime with crime so to speak. would make it much darker. Witch is popular these days :)
 

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DethVanXan said:
Fellow Escapists, what do you think of a global organisation that is above the law?
I'm thinking of using a group like this in a story I want to write, here's what I've thought of so far...

- They would hunt down criminals deemed 'Too Guilty' to be given a fair trial.
- They would have to be top secret off course. Technically, they do not exist.
- Are above the law, able to do whatever it takes to complete a mission.
- Belong to no nation, takes their orders from the UN or some higher power (Illuminati etc)
- Members would be the Elite of the Elite from natioanl armies.

Those are my ideas for the group, I'll work on plot and characters once I've got this nailed.
Opinions and suggestions please.

Right, so a multi-national black ops unit under the control of the UN?

So Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6 with the serial numbers filed off then?
 

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DethVanXan said:
Layz92 said:
It's a good basic groundwork for a story. Not to claim piracy but isn't that sought of the basis of the GI Joe movie? And a couple of others I can't put a name to. (maybe the seven ancient wonders by Mathew Reilly)
I haven't seen any of those. Damn, it's hard to be original nowadays.
I wouldn't worry about it.. the new GI Joe movie blew ass lol.. your idea sounds interesting though, i'd read that.
 

DethVanXan

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Galebaby said:
Hitman. There. I said it.
Agent 47 is a hitman working for an Assassin company. He only kills criminals so it is less morally questionable for the player.
 

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DethVanXan said:
Fellow Escapists, what do you think of a global organisation that is above the law?
I'm thinking of using a group like this in a story I want to write, here's what I've thought of so far...

- They would hunt down criminals deemed 'Too Guilty' to be given a fair trial.
- They would have to be top secret off course. Technically, they do not exist.
- Are above the law, able to do whatever it takes to complete a mission.
- Belong to no nation, takes their orders from the UN or some higher power (Illuminati etc)
- Members would be the Elite of the Elite from natioanl armies.

Those are my ideas for the group, I'll work on plot and characters once I've got this nailed.
Opinions and suggestions please.
You're writing Mass Effect?