ACTA Vs Anonymous

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Zeromaeus

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I really like the concept behind Anonymous, but not so much the execution its undertaken. Conceptually, we are all anonymous. Until we identify ourselves we are legion. Its ... interesting to think about.

Its funny to me that people ask anonymous to rise to the challenge when what needs to happen is for us to do so ourselves. It is in numbers that anonymous has power. Problem is, how do you fight something like this? When our governments are working in secret to censor and control the masses, how do said masses fight back? Short of revolution that is...

I fear what will happen to the internet and its denizens, as it were, should ACTA pass. Its a sad future, that's for certain.
 

Yawwy

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...I typed 'Anonymous rangers' into my search bar by accident,but this video seems to sum up what I had intended to post anyway.

 
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HG131 said:
Irridium said:
HG131 said:
Irridium said:
4Chan actually counted to 10 for this. Shit be serious.

I've spread the word onto many sights, and I suggest sending stuff on ACTA to the news stations. FOX especially, since they'll gladly eat this up.

This has to be stopped. Its just straight up bullshit and its wrong. People like the Church of fucking Scientology and the RIAA should not and ever be in control of the internet. Neither should governments.

Alert the news stations, spread this around, tell everyone. Get the word out.

Further sites/readings:

http://ifmovement.org/
http://www.anti-acta.com/
http://www.eff.org/issues/acta
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4040/1282637685775.png
Umm, you do know that Fox is Censorship Central? Send it to Jon Stewart and Stephan Colbert.
Perhaps, but they'll take anything they can get if they can make Obama look bad.
Stewart and Colbert are equal opportunity mockers who, while they have democratic leanings, will call both sides out. Besides, Fox would never work with their most hated group. It's more likely to see Commander Shepard flying a Reaper before that happens.
Yeah your right. But it still couldn't hurt. After all, Shepard flying a Reaper would be pretty sweet...
 

Freeze_L

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Doclector said:
Fenolio said:
"We are legion, for we are many."
Gives me chills. (In a good way)
Hope this ACTA thing fails.
Indeed, it is quite creepy.

"Expect us" almost makes you think of an anon in full V get-up seeping up from under the bed of some RIAA manager.
This would certainly work... there is an old story where a warrior prevents war by sneaking in to the king's castle 3 times on 3 different nights, moves things and leaves a note simply informing the king he was there, after the 3rd night the king sought a peace treaty and ended the threat of war.

In a way i hate Anonymous, and in a way i support them, it is not really a group as much as a gathering of pepole with like minds on a specific event. This has some backing from me, the cause not the deceleration of war in any way other than symbolically .
 

Owlslayer

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That Anon response video freaked me out, i mean that shit was creepy as hell. Listening to it made me feel like something big is gonna happen.
Maybe they will fail, but still, it gave me a weird chill...
 
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HG131 said:
Irridium said:
HG131 said:
Irridium said:
HG131 said:
Irridium said:
4Chan actually counted to 10 for this. Shit be serious.

I've spread the word onto many sights, and I suggest sending stuff on ACTA to the news stations. FOX especially, since they'll gladly eat this up.

This has to be stopped. Its just straight up bullshit and its wrong. People like the Church of fucking Scientology and the RIAA should not and ever be in control of the internet. Neither should governments.

Alert the news stations, spread this around, tell everyone. Get the word out.

Further sites/readings:

http://ifmovement.org/
http://www.anti-acta.com/
http://www.eff.org/issues/acta
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4040/1282637685775.png
Umm, you do know that Fox is Censorship Central? Send it to Jon Stewart and Stephan Colbert.
Perhaps, but they'll take anything they can get if they can make Obama look bad.
Stewart and Colbert are equal opportunity mockers who, while they have democratic leanings, will call both sides out. Besides, Fox would never work with their most hated group. It's more likely to see Commander Shepard flying a Reaper before that happens.
Yeah your right. But it still couldn't hurt. After all, Shepard flying a Reaper would be pretty sweet...
Actually, it could hurt. They could take ACTA's side.
I doubt it, but anything can happen I guess. Like most of the 1st world countries coming together to screw over the internet and the people on behalf of corporations.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
I really do not like anonymous but I suppose they are the lesser of two evils.
the way i see it...we all hate them...but when it comes down to it... there always going to fight for freedom. HEAR ME OUT....yes they have there fun...yes it will annoy us quite a bit look a rickroll...and 90-95% of what they do dosent hurt anyone...but freedom... freedom of speech...they will always fight for...because its what they live for
 
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Anomonys is scary! They remind me of that biblical demon legion 'We are legion, for we are many.'
I still don't like scientology but anomonys scares me.
 

Mrsoupcup

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Flig said:
Hopefully this doesn't end like Chanology did...you know, with a couple thousand guys in Guy Fawkes masks standing in the rain for a few hours...and then doing nothing else...

If you've actually seen /b/ recently, most people don't seem to be up for any ACTA raids, though it could just be the summerfags.

I'm hoping they actually follow through with this attack on ACTA and don't stop after a few protests like they did with Scientology. It's not like they can make things any worse...right?

Also, you seem to have missed a fairly recent attack on this whole "Tea Party" business. The Escapist actually has an article by Andy Chalk on it.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102426-Anonymous-Punishes-the-Oregon-Tea-Party
I'm aware of the Tea party raid, just couldn't find a youtube vid for it.

Edit: If you have one link me it please nd I'll include it.
 

Zhukov

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I find it amusing that people seem to think that Anonymous can make a difference in this business.

What are they gonna do, huh? Prank calls? Youtube videos? Take down a website?

Oh I bet the politicians and diplomats are quaking in their boots at the thought of a prank call.
 

Therumancer

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
Anonymous. The power of the internet that no one dares to fight. I like them, they're who people seem to turn to when someone threatens the internet. Look at the original ACTA thread, I can assure you at l person said Anonymous would sort out the problem. Whether they succeed or not is something I wish to see.
Well, the reason why I'm not sure if they can on their own, is largely because of the money involved. Let's say that they managed to do something even more effective than they did to Australia. Rather than taking down their internet for most practical purposes for an hour, they manage to pretty much immobilize the online activities of every nation on that list. Obama is getting non-stop Goatse in his private e-mail, federal coorespondance from all those nations winds up publically posted on 4chan, nearly every goverment official is getting their e-mail spam bombed, ad infinium.

None of that would stop them from passing the law, they don't need the internet to do it, and a lot of what this law does regulates physical trade as much as anything. The internet stuff is only one aspect of it (albiet a big one), and all these companies have tons of money they stand to make.

There are limits to how long Anonymous could keep everything locked down if they got that far, and in the end that level of harassment might be embarassing but is nothing compared to the fortunes at stake.

The only way I could see Anonymous winning is if it could somehow rally enough people to take IRL action against the goverment. Put the politicians in fear of their jobs if they don't stop the law, or repeal it, and that might work, of course they also might not care if they are getting big enough industry pay outs where they figure they can just retire to some cabin somewhere to live in the lap of luxury with no internet or whatever.

I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but from where I'm sitting this law seems to be so big in a corperate and monetary sense, that like similar things throughout history the only way to stop it would be armed insurrection... and by this I don't mean terrorism, I mean a literal "people storm the capitol, remove the officials, and hold a new election" type insurrection.

I could be wrong about this, as I have a tendency to overreact when I'm angry. As a group Anonymous seems a lot smarter than I am though, so I am hoping they already thought all of this through (including what I'm talking about) and had a game plan in mind before they basically declared war on the western world.
 
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Also, now this Cracked article [http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_90_the-world-tomorrow-if-internet-disappeared-today/] seems a lot less funny now that it may actually be our future...
 

Atmos Duality

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Irridium said:
It is unconstitutional, but ACTA is an international agreement, meaning its above any national law.
I'm wondering if the Supreme Court would like to know that they are being bypassed in domestic affairs. Perhaps someone should mention this to them.

Oh, I know. How about we employ the Patriot Act against the signers of this abomination, because this effectively qualifies as terrorism (under the definition of conspiracy, no less).
 

BlumiereBleck

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Darn commies. I will riot if that bill passes and so will every other American, German, Brit-ian, Frenchmen, Irishmen, and Scotsmen that has rage against this bill.
 

captaincabbage

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I don't think anyone with a sense of logic can do anything other than support Anon in this cause.

As another poster said, they really are the lesser of two evils, so to speak. Above everything that Anon stands for, they stand for freedom of speech, both online and off and that concerns us all, so I'd like to formally give my support to Anon. I've already started advertising the evil that is ACTA on my other accounts on different sites and I feel it's important that others do the same.

To Anonymous, I salute you all.


Also, Oprah troll FTW! Just thought I might add that.
 

Cinnamonfloss

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mrpenguinismyhomeboy said:
I like Anonymous, and this whole ACTA thing is awful, so I fully support them. I've always loved it, the whole speech synthesizer videos that are "declaring attacks" on people and stuff, it just seems so awesome, like theirs finally something going to happen, finally, something our generation can be proud of, our fight against tyranny and oppression, it all is very inspiring.

On the other hand, they are very scary people, and powerful people, who often act on a whim. But unlike their other raids, this one seems like they are legitimately scared for themselves and they actually care about this, and aren't just trying to fuck with people.
This.
I dont know why, but ive always liked Anon. And I kind of admire them in a way that theyre the only people doing something against ACTA.
I was actually pretty happy when I first watched their vid response.
 
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While I have a respect (perhaps fear) for the sort of real life consequences Anon can force upon people who feel it's effects, I still think that the only real way to stop something like this would be to rally people against it in real life.

Seriously, the American Constitutional 4th Amendment, the British Data Protection Act, other assorted laws from several European countries, one of the decrees (I forget which one) of the European Union itself, and the people signing ACTA all seem to conveniently forget that one of the defining tenets of the last 400 years of democracy has been the right to privacy?

If this was ever made public, instead of the whole thing being conducted behind closed doors in an attempt to pass the law without anyone being any the wiser, then three quarters of the First World would have been up in arms against it from day one. The only reason they have managed to get this close to passing it is by keeping people in the dark, thus the only way to stop them is to spread the truth. This is what anonymous should be helping with, not spamming politicians' inboxes and sending threatening YouTube messages, but gathering up everyone they can to tell them about the real world implications of this law.

For once Anonymous has the power to do real good in the fight of the ordinary citizen vs the state, and I hope to God that they don't bollocks it up by trying to be hard men on the internet.
 

JWW

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I don't think ACTA will pass, but the fact that it was kept in the dark is bad.