ACTA Vs Anonymous

[Therumancer]

It is unconstitutional, but ACTA is an international agreement, meaning its above any national law.

I'm wondering if the Supreme Court would like to know that they are being bypassed in domestic affairs. Perhaps someone should mention this to them.

That's a touchy subject as I believe the Supreme Court doesn't have a say in treaties and how the effect the US, similar to how it can't for example make rulings against people with Diplomatic Immunity or whatever.

Yes, they would be using this to bypass one big part of the goverment, and make a joke out of our system of "Checks and Balances", but short of armed insurrection what can be done about that? I am hoping there is a solution, but really I'm not sure what could possibly influance this short of civil war as alarmist as that sounds.

 

[Irridium]

I don't think ACTA will pass, but the fact that it was kept in the dark is bad.

Its being finalized next month.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

"I have a bad feeling about this." I have searched and searched but It seems this bill is very under the radar of The United States. And non of the major parties seem to have anything to say about it. If this bill passes anarchy will break out. What the bill creators don't realize is that this is will be a major change of the world. FULL ANARCHY! We may have to blow up the Parliament.

 

[Paragon Fury]

It is unconstitutional, but ACTA is an international agreement, meaning its above any national law.

I'm wondering if the Supreme Court would like to know that they are being bypassed in domestic affairs. Perhaps someone should mention this to them.

That's a touchy subject as I believe the Supreme Court doesn't have a say in treaties and how the effect the US, similar to how it can't for example make rulings against people with Diplomatic Immunity or whatever.

Yes, they would be using this to bypass one big part of the goverment, and make a joke out of our system of "Checks and Balances", but short of armed insurrection what can be done about that? I am hoping there is a solution, but really I'm not sure what could possibly influance this short of civil war as alarmist as that sounds.

Though the President can sign an international treaty, both Congress and the Supreme Court can contest its validity and the US's partcipation in said treaty if they wish. And since it quite clearly violates the US's Freedom of Speech, Right to Privacy and Unwarranted/Unreasonable Search & Seizure, expect it to be highly contested if it does pass.

 

[Irridium]

I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but from where I'm sitting this law seems to be so big in a corperate and monetary sense, that like similar things throughout history the only way to stop it would be armed insurrection... and by this I don't mean terrorism, I mean a literal "people storm the capitol, remove the officials, and hold a new election" type insurrection.

Fun fact, there's a section in the US Constitution which basically states that if the Government fails to act in the interests of the people, the people are allowed to instill a new government.

Its not word for word but you get the basic idea.

Inform the public and get them pissed off, and add in the second amendment, and you have yourself the perfect set up for a revolution.

 

[Irridium]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/europe-trashes-acta-as-obama-praises-it.ars

the european parliment is seriously against acta until it is made much more resonable (the removal of the 3 strike law and the internet disconnect law)

That was 5 months ago. Wonder what its like now.

 

[Jodah]

I have made it clear on several occasions that I do not support 4chan, Anon, and other such groups but in certain cases, such as this, I must support their goals, if not their actions. In many cases they give the rest of us internet goers a bad name but here I don't think they can be any middle ground.

 

[RobfromtheGulag]

Just watching the video is awesome.

It's Anonymous vs ACTA, but it's never clearly stated what ACTA is even doing so it's 2 ambiguous factions warring over....?

 

[pope_of_larry]

the video gave me the same chills that shepherds speech at the start of mass effect one did.

 

[MaVeN1337]

I support anonymous.

No more self proclaimed douchebags stealing our rights.

 

[ilion]

LET THEM COME

 

[William Dickbringer]

Oh yeah, I forgot.
I was thinking of copyright law.

They bassically have the right if this passes to search your computer randomly without you knowing for "harmful content". If deemed "harmful" or copyrighted, you could face jail time without a trail... Assuming this wont be abused would just be wishful thinking.

wait what? that's what they're trying to do well then I hope anonymous wins then and what do they deem "harmful content" really nasty porn? and by copyrighted do you mean illegally obtained music/games/movies/tv shows? or those being used without permission

 

[Beastialman]

I'm hoping for a mass hungry strike against the ACTA. I'd join in.

 

[101194]

...Well, I personally am Hoping Anonymous will Take this down for us. I hope that the Last boss of the Internet can win against the governments of the world against internet censorship, or else we are heading for the new world revolution.

 

[Freshman]

And how is dismantling Scientology going? seriously though, i would prefer these guys win rather than the internet becoming censored. maybe they should team up with the NRA...

 

[Blatherscythe]

How would they go about war with the world governments without doing more damage? We need to take real world action to show that we won't put up with this, petitions, lobby, roit, strike we need to show them that they cannot do this. We can't hide behind internet annonymity now.

 

[mad825]

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/europe-trashes-acta-as-obama-praises-it.ars

the european parliment is seriously against acta until it is made much more resonable (the removal of the 3 strike law and the internet disconnect law)

If i'm not mistaken, hasn't something like this already has been enforced in the UK? the Digital Economy Act 2010?

 

[BakaSmurf]

Countdown to American Civil War 2.0!

3....

2....

1....

 

[Nurb]

>My face when gamers and teenagers think they can change government policy without moving away from the computer

 

[JWW]

I don't think ACTA will pass, but the fact that it was kept in the dark is bad.

Its being finalized next month.

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