Well, the only "adult" comics I've read are The Walking Dead, Watchmen, and some stuff by Frank Miller. And seeing as the first two have already been recommended, I guess that makes me the Frank Miller guy...
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Y: the last man probably fits the bill. It's about a scenario where all the men on earth but one die off suddenly. You would think it would just be some sexual fantasy but it's not about that.
Ah, in that sense it works. I thought you were saying the sexual aspects were fetishistic, in the creepy hentai sense.WarpZone said:
If it's illegal for the reason I think you're saying it is, it's actually legal in the US; drawings are protected under the first amendment. In Canada, on the other hand...WarpZone said:
I've read a bit of Oglaf. The sex scenes are, at best, only sexy until the punchline, which is almost always funny but severely boner-withering. I'm thinking of the snow queen plotline...WarpZone said:
This. Oglaf is sex comedy rather than porn, and just comedy more often than not. Very well drawn, does no fan service whatsoever (which is weird for a comic full of naked wommin) and an incredibly sharp sense of humor.A. Smith said:
Not necessarily Adult, at least not in the sense of nudity, but the works of Garth Ennis and Clayton Crain are pretty visceral in their design, especially when they work together, as they often do.
Some of my favourite works of theirs are Ghost Rider: the Road to Damnation and it's pseudo-follow-up Trail of Tears, and the first bunch of issues for the modern X-Force series, especially the standalone Sex and Violence arc (no prizes for what it mostly consists of).
Some of my favourite works of theirs are Ghost Rider: the Road to Damnation and it's pseudo-follow-up Trail of Tears, and the first bunch of issues for the modern X-Force series, especially the standalone Sex and Violence arc (no prizes for what it mostly consists of).
Nope. The PROTECT Act changed all that. You literally can't doodle some tits on a sketch pad in your own home without technically breaking the law. If federal prosecutors say "This looks underage to me," then it counts as child pornography, and you can be prosecuted, no matter what the actual drawing looks like, even if it's just a stick figure. So far, it's only been used to prosecute cases where the defendant was suspected of committing other, real-world sex crimes, but there's no reason to assume they won't target comic collectors in general, once the law has been upheld in court. Not sure, but I think the goal of this legislation was to crack down on sales of hentai in America, and stuff like 4chan, which are probably seen as a political embarrassment among the so-called moral majority.Owyn_Merrilin said:
A friend in Canada tells me they have provincial laws with similar restrictions, but they tend to target sales, not possession, and seem to be less heavy-handed about enforcement. Your millage may vary. When in doubt, ask a local lawyer.
Brian K. Vaughn, Alan Moore, Robert Kirkman, Warren Ellis, and Mark Millar are all good authors to look for if you want more "mature" comics. They certainly don't pull punches, unless they're working with DC or Marvel characters (and even then they sometimes don't).
Federal law doesn't trump the constitution, though. However, It looks like the case law is conflicting on the matter; there's two rulings on the subject, one which calls it unconstitutional, and another which upholds it. It's probably better to play it safe than to be sorry, but at some point, this is going to need to be challenged; it's patently unconstitutional, especially since child porn is only illegal in the first place because actual children have to be harmed to make it.WarpZone said:
Edit: Think about it, if they were going to apply that provision equally to all media, not only would it crack down on hentai, and not only would it logically lead to a ban on the novel Lolita, but it would also do away with Fanny Hill, The Vagina Monologues, and any number of general fiction works which involve teenagers doing something that teenagers tend to do. A decent lawyer would be able to get that dismantled.
Yeah, it probably won't be an issue in the immediate future for most comic book fans, and hopefully it'll get struck down eventually, but I didn't want someone reading this thread to go out and buy it or start doing Google searches on it without knowing what they might be getting themselves into, long-term, if the worst comes to pass. Technically, hand-drawn child porn is currently illegal in the United States, and so is any drawing that a federal prosecutor chooses to interpret as child porn. Thank you George Dubbya Bush.Owyn_Merrilin said:
100 bullets,Transmetropolitan,punishermax,wanted,hellblazer,scalped,american vampire,the goon, criminal,Unknown Soldier,league of extraordinary gentlement,hitman,etc...
there is a lot of adults comics, you just got to look for them.
there is a lot of adults comics, you just got to look for them.
Three of the best mature/adult comics are The Invisibles by Grant Morrison, Preacher by Garth Ennis and Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis.
Have you ever read Empowered, which is written and drawn by Adam Warren? It deals with sex and sexual situations without ever becoming pornography. It does deal with the fetishistic side of things (the inspiration for the main character came from when Adam drew some bondage-themed artwork during a time when steady work was scarce), but it does it in a way that directly confronts the fetishism and strives to turn it on it's head.
If you do decide to check it out, you may want to get the first two volumes at once: the first volume starts with very short pieces (2-3 pages) that are a bit jarring to read, but over the course of the book a more coherent mode of storytelling emerges and things really start to cohere in the second volume.
Lastly, Warren does draw in a manga-influenced style, but it takes enough inspiration from other sources that it has it's own personality. Plus, the book looks unique because it consists only of uninked pencil drawings (which may sound amateurish, but it looks cool as hell).
There have already been tons of other good suggestions, but I wanted to mentioned this one because of how closely it relates to your topic.
If you do decide to check it out, you may want to get the first two volumes at once: the first volume starts with very short pieces (2-3 pages) that are a bit jarring to read, but over the course of the book a more coherent mode of storytelling emerges and things really start to cohere in the second volume.
Lastly, Warren does draw in a manga-influenced style, but it takes enough inspiration from other sources that it has it's own personality. Plus, the book looks unique because it consists only of uninked pencil drawings (which may sound amateurish, but it looks cool as hell).
There have already been tons of other good suggestions, but I wanted to mentioned this one because of how closely it relates to your topic.
