I still don't understand why Japanese animation studios operate like that. If it's that much more expensive or time consuming I can understand why TV series don't work like this, but most feature films do the animation before voice recording, too.Falseprophet said:Ironically, it's noteworthy in Japan because Akira is one of the few anime to be done in the standard American fashion: they recorded the dialogue first and then rendered the animation. For most anime the animation is done first and the voice actors try to synch their lines to their characters' mouth flapping. It's the main reason the lip-synching (in Japanese, at least) and body language in Akira are so good compared to almost any other anime. Judging by Otomo's other work, he stuck with this method.Casual Shinji said:It's deemed a masterpiece mostly because of how spectacular it was animated. On a technical (hand drawn) level it has very few equals, and seeing as hand drawn animation is all but dead this is unlikely to ever change.
You mistake...Kwil said:"No, just.. just hang on a sec. Okay, so Adam is John's best friend. He's a little guy. He gets kidnapped by the government because he shows psychic potential"
I was thinking of Ghost in the Shell too when I read the beginning of this article. It had good animation, but overall the movie was awkward and it was clearly trying to fit too big a world into too short a film. I could have forgiven this if it was created as a pilot, but it wasn't.Kurt Cristal said:I have the same problem with the famed "Ghost in the Shell" film by Mamoru Oshii. It was the first to give anime films real exposure, but on the whole it seems to really be missing the point of the original manga and seems to want to opt-in for having "depressed robots talk about life while our main character gets naked for the 8th time".
I'm a big fan of the series, with the original mangas, tv series, books, and recently released newer manga adaptations, but I outright dislike the films.
This pretty much covers what I was thinking.j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:Good points Bob, but I disagree with you on one key point.
You say that there is nothing fundamental to the story that couldn't be transplanted to another setting if done properly. I personally don't think so. For me, part of what makes the film so unique is that the story is entire focused on the idea of Japanese identity.
Look at the opening scene: gets wiped out in mere seconds by a huge explosion. That right there should remind you of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. Those two bombing are events that, if you'll pardon the wording, are seared into the Japanese cultural psyche. Being the only country to have ever been nuked during a war, you can be damn sure it's an event that weighs heavy in their culture. Indeed, the crux of Akira's plot focuses on the government trying (and failing) to control a weapon so powerful it can level entire cities in an instant. The symbolism and imagery used in Akira is supposed to bring associations with nuclear weaponry, and Japan is arguably the only country in the world were this sort of thing would make sense.
Not only that, but Japanese society itself plays a key role in the story. Part of the conflict in the film comes from the divide between the strict, structured Japanese culture of the past, and the chaotic mess that the country has fallen into. The General himself is on a crusade to restore Japan back to its values and traditions. Looked at very simply, it's an obvious example of East vs West (in this case, liberalism against traditionalism), but there's more to it than that. Traditional Japanese society is far, far stricter than we are used to in the West, and based on a large number of customs, rituals and traditions. Akira is in many ways an examination of how all those rules, rituals and traditions lose their relevance and are cast aside when society has had to recover from a devastating attack. In short, Akira is a reflection (in many ways) of post-WWII Japan. The dystopian, lawless society presented in the film isn't just a simple Clockwork Orange pastiche, it's a representation of how the Japanese people were almost forced to challenge their own ideas and beliefs about Japan after so humbling and complete a defeat.
In short, it's a Japanese film about Japan. As such, you simply can't transplant the story to somewhere else and hope for it to have anywhere near the same effect.
Also, as has been mentioned above, Akira is one of the unquestioned landmarks of animation. Purely as a technical achievement, the film broke new ground, and still stands as one of the most impressive feats of animation ever. Such landmarks are best left alone.
"Adam" would actually not be the best friend of anyone. "Adam" would be the kid that they dissected in order to learn more about the ... whatever the hell we are going to call the "espers" in this version... I got it! How about "Daaaa Bears".Kwil said:How's the pitch for that go again?
"Okay, the movie is called 'Adam' it's about these Latino street kids who are in a gang lead by John."
"Adam, you mean."
"What? Oh. No. Adam's a different kid."
"Well why are we calling the movie Adam then? We should call it John."
"No, just.. just hang on a sec. Okay, so Adam is John's best friend. He's a little guy. He gets kidnapped by the government because he shows psychic potential"
"Wait.. you got a mexican psychic kid? Is there a voodoo tie-in here, because we could probably get Tony Todd. You know, Candyman. Guy'd make a helluva voodoo doctor."
"A voodoo t... no, no, no voodoo going on."
"You sure? I mean I don't think he's been in much lately, so we could probably get him fairly cheap, and he'd add some name appeal."
"No. Seriously. No voodoo. Could you just hold on and listen.. Okay, so this Adam kid gets kidnapped by the government who wants to run experiments on him and boost his psychic potential. They want to use him for a weapon. And so John and his crew try to go up against the government to free him."
"So kind of a Warriors vibe then?"
"Warriors?"
"You know.. Warriors.. come out to play-ay.. Warriors.. come out to play-ay. That whole thing with the small gang being the underdogs against the bigger system."
"Uh. Yeah, sure. But you see here's the twist, they pump up Adam and it works too well, he becomes like a God."
"How's that work? I mean, if he's a God, can't he just walk out?"
"Well yeah, but it gets out of his control too.. driving him crazy and making him grow huge, threatening destruction of the whole city."
"So it's Warriors meet Godzilla? Hm. Okay. I can get behind this. But tell me, what does this all have to do with this Akira thing we have the rights to?"
"Do you have a gun? I think I'd like to shoot one of us now.."
He was just giving that as an example, geez. Probably because it started with an A so it still has an alliterative tie to the original name. You could've gone with John too for something even more normal.SandroTheMaster said:I was with you until you say Akira's name should be Adam, so that it doesn't bring any exotic or special connotation.
Really? Adam? THAT is the name that came to your head when you thought "nondescript"? I mean, the name Adam is the most ham-fisted attempt writers have to say "this character is important" than any other, ever. Jesus, Budha and others could count, if it wasn't for the fact no writer is dumb enough to think they can get away with naming a character such, so they go with Adam.
I'm just baffled. There are literally hundreds of other ordinary names with absolutely no special meanings, and you had to pick Adam. Though it probably will be hilarious if people go on crying for Dave, their savior.