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Vorpals

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A Passe Adesse said:
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Thanks for reading my previous wall of text and responding to it.

Ok, so you say you feel like technology is going to betray us sooner or later. However, in your scenario, this has already happened. Since Tali cannot return your feelings as she is not a rational being that can confer value to you, you will realize the scope of this feel heartbroken by betrayal eventually. Love is supposed t obe mutual. She is actually worse than those women who did not appreciate you since it is physically impossible for Tali to love you back, wheras those women (and any woman) could potentially return your feelings, since they have unconditional value as I said before. Technology is being used against you right there.

Additionally, completely stopping your search for real women is nonsensical because Tali is modeled, either directly or indirectly after those women you stopped looking for. Since BioWare is presumably a human organization that has no more advanced technology than anywhere else in the world and thus no means to meet alien creatures, so Tali's character must have been directly based off of either A) humans BioWare's writers have met or B) humans that BioWare's writers have imagined, but those imaginary humans were based off of real humans, so Tali's character is still indirectly based off of human beings. According to some other Mass Effect players, Tali and her race were based off of the Jews, seen on this page: http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Quarian

Another problem with your reasoning is that you assume that immersing yourself in video games and trying to engage in romance are mutually exclusive. However, this is empirically denied, as many people who play video games regularly have social lives and/or a significant other. Additionally, these people meet via common interests, so if you can find other people in real life that enjoy Mass Effect and other interests.

You try to say that you've heard the trite saying repeatedly and say that you've been continuously crushed by people and therefore have no reason to deal with them. However, as I said in my original post, the amount of people you have not met greatly outweighs any number of people you could have met in your current life span, so results from that small sample of people are skewed in some way. Thus, since you have not met everyone on the planet, you can't really say that all of your attempts at doing so will end with drama and/or rejection. Neither of us know for sure aside from my probability weighing, but that's another part of life: not being able to expect everything categorically, in the same way you can be immersed in games you never thought would immerse you that way as technology continues to advance and not predict it. Thus, you might as well try, or else, there is not much else you can do for mutual feelings.
 

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Vorpals said:
A Passe Adesse said:
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I don't mind reading a wall of text at all, as long as it's well thought out and you express your opinion honestly.

On your first paragraph: All of your points are logical. I'm afraid that we just have differing logic going on in our heads.
I think that technology is, and I've used this expression here before, a two bladed spear/ a double edged sword. I think it is safer to reserve my affection. I don't want to be a cold person, and I consider my moral compass to be pointing closer to north than most my age (which will remain unsaid), and I'm not afraid to show strong companionship to my friends. Most shove me off when I offer a "bro-hug" though. Homophobes. Anyways, I have never been popular with the fairer sex. I actually tried up until a while ago, but none that I favored ever had any similar feelings towards me. This didn't always end as dramatically as my two main heartbreaks, but each time I failed in my pursuits, my will and my desire for a compatible woman just sort of hit bottom. I've given up, but I've come to terms with my situation and I just simply have no desire to "chase girls around" anymore. If I don't want to pursue anyone, then I won't. But fleeting feelings do come in, some for a few weeks, some only for a few minutes. They always pass quickly now.

About paragraph 2: True, all true, but I find it doubtful that I will ever find a woman like that. Say whatever you want to, but I have lost motivation and I'm not looking for any new reasons to get out there. I'm sorry, but you're fighting a losing battle on that one.

On to paragraph 3: I got sort of confused... I'm trying, but it's 1:00 AM.

Paragraph 4: Similar to my response to paragraph 2. I just don't see how it's worth the drama it takes to get there, especially since so many people's loves die down eventually. It seems like such a waste to get so excited and to lose what you've worked so hard for. I look at everything from what I sometimes call a third person perspective because I'm a nerd; by this I mean that I look at every situation from a distance (in my head) and think of what is most likely to land me in a good situation. I think that love isn't worth the risks associated with it and i would rather just have friends, family and fantasy. At least in fantasy, I won't be betrayed by the people I care for the most.