Canid117 said:
Says the pot calling the kettle black when you insulted me on my spelling and intellect?
anyway, I'm finished arguing politics. I would prefer to, if i wasnt blasted for an opinion on an opinion thread. BUt seeing as how i got hate for putitng out the idea of handling this situation like Vietnam could have been handled, and for saying we could fight a war on equal ground, I'm finished. its hard to have a civilized argument with someone who can't read, listen, or understand the difference between the words COULD and SHOULD. But I will say this. DO you really think the government cares what the people think? If so, you are very misguided. Electing people to decide what we want done is foolish in itself because you will always have half of the people you "represent" pissed and angry. The President only needs to grease the wheels of Congress and his will will be done. So anyhting you say about the people is null in void because the government could give two shits about what the "people" think. IF it were true, we would have had slavery still be an issue today because the south didnt feel the need to part with free labor.
Now, onto the personal assualts on me, what makes you think what you are saying about my spelling, my intellect, my organziational skills is any different from the me quoting a man who the escapist pays to be as crass as possible when reviewing games? I'm in college, and all through my grade school career (K-12) I was in the top 99 percentile in English, so much so i was taking English courses two years above my level at the point of nineth grade, and doing college English in 11th. Even in college I'm in the top percentile (though i've fallen to the top 92 percentile admittedly). I'm at the level where I'm grading other students papers for them, and averaging on my last six papers a respective 94% over all, and none of my papers have fallen below a 90%. My grammer is impecible, my spelling (i'll admit, i do abuse spell check from time to time) is emaculate, my expression, tip-top. So no, i dont have the time to run each post through a word document, i have better and more important things then to make sure that my grammar is perfect for people who could care less what i say and only like to hear themselves talk out of thier asses. That doesnt mean i dont care, that just means i spread myself thin and dont waste the precious time i have in my life on trivial matters. So dont tell me I cant spell, use grammar, or organize based on what you have seen in this thread. The internet is my place to cut loose, not care about the rules.
And never once have I issued a threat against you, or insult that was not in retaliation against an insult you have sent me. You can twists words all you like, but that does not change the simple truth that you feel the need, in all the superiority you feel about yourself that you make edit and criticize the most trivial and non important matters of an argument.
Now, as one had told me earlier in this thread, I am done iwth it to. I'm tired of debating with people who spout the same thing constantly. Tired of people who hold grammar and spelling above the content of the post. Tired of arguing on something that in an ideal world (whihc it seems many wish we could live in by thier responses of fighting terrorism with terrorism), we would not have. I am tired of it all, so I'll sum up everything i have to say on the matter in one simple on topic post below.
OT: The matter of what we're doing is on the whole pointless. Whether we stay or leave, terrorism will always exist because people will always have different opinions. What is wrong to one is right to another (child marriage, segregation, and dominance in a caste system of Inda which stioll holds power in today's world). The quickest short term solution (as unethical as it may sound) would be to go in total war style. Level the lands and know that man/men we want dead are dead. The best long term solution would be to evacuate and increase better homeland security, so these things do not happen. The US has over stepped its boundries one too many times, and needs a healthy does of humility. I hear China is growing, maybe they can take a stab at policing the world.
IN either case, the world will not be perfect and terrorism will continue. Bin Laden hates the US for what we did to him, that is his purpose for these attacks, as he puts it. The only difference is will the US appear weak for retreating, for the world's greatest military (arguably) not being able to defeat a bunch insurgents who hide and attack from the shadows. Or, the US will appear powerhungry (more so then now) and evil, crushing the way of life people who do not want the US there and had no part in the attacks so that they (the us) can take their revenge. Because that is what this war boils down to, revenge.
No plan is full proof, no plan will bring the US any real happiness. both will only bring it the hate of the world. Speaking as an angry American who remembers the attacks, total war is the best choice. Speaking as an American tired of war, tired of the strain it puts on our economy, tired of seeing the mothers/fathers/brothers/sisters/sons/daughters crying because a loved one has died in waht is in the end of point war, evacuation is the best. Let the lands fall under the powers of people like Saddam, like Bin Laden. Let another portion of the world hate the US ebcause it does what it believes it right when it interferes with other countries' affairs. Either option will only show one thing. The US bit off more then it could chew, tried to to more then it thought it could do and waht would be needed. The US lost, and wasted its time, resources, lives, and money in doing so.
The Sooner the US sees this, the sooner things can attempt to be returned to normal.
With that, I bid all on this thread a fond farewell and gentleman's goodbye. Thank you for the headaches and interesting remarks. To each is his/her own opinion, and while i may not agree, I can certainly see you would see it that way.
