After Avengers.....whats next?

[SonOfVoorhees]

The Marvel universe has been building towards a confrontation with Thanos and the Infinity Stone. So what happens next? What is there that can grab us the same as the build up to Thanos? Are there great stories for Cap America? Iron Man? We also have the new Avengers with Ant Man and Doctor Strange.

As a non comic person reaching out to the comic reading crowd. What stories do you think they could use once Thanos has been dealt with?

 

[TakerFoxx]

As I understand it, after that comes the Civil War, where Captain America and Iron Man lead opposing sides about whether all superheroes have to register with the government or not. Hopefully they do a better job of it than the comics did.

 

[DefunctTheory]

As I understand it, after that comes the Civil War, where Captain America and Iron Man lead opposing sides about whether all superheroes have to register with the government or not. Hopefully they do a better job of it than the comics did.

I can't see how they could do a good job - I'm really bummed out that they're wasting Capt. America's third movie on a story line as poorly handled and conceived as Civil War, and I don't see how they could make it believable in the span of one movie. It also makes almost no sense, as just about everyone with super powers in the MCU is on a SHIELD list, and certainly all the heroes are known by the government on a real name basis.

Now that I think of it, I'm starting to think Civil War is going to be about Hydra, and have very little to do with the comic of the same name. I really hope so.

Also, Civil War happens before Infinity War (Thanos's movies).

I have no idea what happens after Infinity War, but I'd guess the GotG brings an alien menace into the picture. The Skrull perhaps.

 

[Remus]

Post-Civil War, possibly WWH or Dark Reign, even Fear Itself would be a cool story to see on screen - give a few known heroes and villains empowered weapons that both make them ludicrously overpowered and possess them, then stuff breaks. If memory serves, in one fight, Thor knocked Hulk from NY to Romania with a single strike and in another, Thing dropped Avengers tower on Red Hulk. Ooh that's another one - introduce Rulk who is

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General Ross, who created his own version of the green goliath

Or introduce The Sentry and have him slowly go insane over multiple films - that would be cool.

 

[Korenith]

They could do the Maximum Security storyline where Earth is turned into a giant galactic prison and there's a fight with a giant living planet called Ego. There'd have to be some changes to the plot of course but I found that pretty fun and it'd be visually pretty amazing.

Also if they go with Remus's idea then they have to do both Dark Reign (with presumably a different character since norman osborn is a spidey vilian) and Siege which I would totally be on board for. Not sure who could be the replacement though. Maybe some Hydra based baddie?

 

[DeimosMasque]

More than likely I think it will be the Kree-Skrull War

 

[Zontar]

More than likely I think it will be the Kree-Skrull War

Aren't the Skrull with Fox due to the X-men movie rights? If that isn't the case then I'd put my money on Secret Invasion.

 

[DeimosMasque]

More than likely I think it will be the Kree-Skrull War

Aren't the Skrull with Fox due to the X-men movie rights? If that isn't the case then I'd put my money on Secret Invasion.

Good point I had forgotten about that. Well then alter it a bit and have it be the Kree and the Badoon instead of the Kree and the Skulls, that'd make a nice little connection to the Original GotG comic as well.

 

[DefunctTheory]

More than likely I think it will be the Kree-Skrull War

Aren't the Skrull with Fox due to the X-men movie rights? If that isn't the case then I'd put my money on Secret Invasion.

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Nope. Fox has mutants and the forces that are directly related to them (Government officials that oppose them, Sentinels, etc), Silver Surfer (Which gives them Galacticus), the Fantastic 4 (Which gives them Doom), and that's pretty much it. Marvel maintains ownership of the galactic level threats that are dealt with by the Marvel universe as a whole regardless of where they may have shown up first, or most often.

EDIT: Decided to actually check, and the Skrull are in fact bolted firmly to the Fantastic 4.

So... fuck.

Marvel does have the Kree though.

 

[Fox12]

Bunch of another crap, rebooted, revamped etc etc

Pretty much this. There's no tension in these movies whatsoever. Am I supposed to consider this Ultron guy or Thanos dude a threat when I already know that every single character survives to continue their individual franchises? They even brought freak'n AGENT COULSEN back. Comic fans can keep telling me how serious these characters are, and how they represent a threat, but lets be honest with ourselves, none of it really matters.

At least Guardians of the Galaxy had the sense to be funny.

 

[jademunky]

Can they do secret invasion without having Norman Osbourne in it? Is there any chance in hell of Sony being willing to work with Disney on that?

Also, I know this will not end well, but I really liked the Civil War. Yes it ended on a serious down note and was generally handled messily, but it took some pretty bold chances with it's ending and changed to the status quo for spider-man and Captain America. (which were quickly retconned)

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I did not see that line about the Skrull being attached to the Fantastic Four.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Bunch of another crap, rebooted, revamped etc etc

Pretty much this. There's no tension in these movies whatsoever. Am I supposed to consider this Ultron guy or Thanos dude a threat when I already know that every single character survives to continue their individual franchises? They even brought freak'n AGENT COULSEN back. Comic fans can keep telling me how serious these characters are, and how they represent a threat, but lets be honest with ourselves, none of it really matters.

Thirded. Marvel will just keep throwing bigger and badder villains ala DBZ, while heroes will have to be retired and replaced with younger versions of themselves or D-list faff like Ant-Man or whoever they dig up next. And everybody keeps talking about how scary and mean Thanos is when in reality everybody knows Thor 3 and Cap 3 are on, and there's a Black Widow movie on the works and so on. Everybody knows what Marvel will do for the next 6 years.

 

[Zontar]

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Uh, where did you get that image? Because it's pretty inaccurate.

 

[RedDeadFred]

Wouldn't be surprised to see that the genre would be less popular after all that time. We'll probably see some new genre pop up in popularity. Years later, we'll have another cycle of superhero stuff.

That's just my guess. Maybe the genre is here to stay.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

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Uh, where did you get that image? Because it's pretty inaccurate.

Just type "marvel's next movies" on Google for a whole slew of them. I don't care about the exact dates, the point is that it's all planned out, and the plan is to keep everything going for as long as possible.

Incidentally I found this hilarious image as well.

 

[Zontar]

Wouldn't be surprised to see that the genre would be less popular after all that time. We'll probably see some new genre pop up in popularity. Years later, we'll have another cycle of superhero stuff.

That's just my guess. Maybe the genre is here to stay.

I don't think 'genre' is an accurate word for super hero movies. They're more of a set piece these days, not so much a genre unto themselves. Hell outside of the Spiderman movies I can't think of any recent superhero movies which fell into the old idea of a superhero genre movie. Though the popularity will probably lower over time I think it's here to stay since they aren't bound by genre and thus can switch between action, sci fi or whatever is popular at the time.

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Oh yeah, I saw that image before. Was pretty funny since it should read "Military white guy and his black buddy", but it was made by people who look for things to complain about so I didn't really pay it much mind.

 

[Lupine]

Bunch of another crap, rebooted, revamped etc etc

Pretty much this. There's no tension in these movies whatsoever. Am I supposed to consider this Ultron guy or Thanos dude a threat when I already know that every single character survives to continue their individual franchises? They even brought freak'n AGENT COULSEN back. Comic fans can keep telling me how serious these characters are, and how they represent a threat, but lets be honest with ourselves, none of it really matters.

Thirded. Marvel will just keep throwing bigger and badder villains ala DBZ, while heroes will have to be retired and replaced with younger versions of themselves or D-list faff like Ant-Man or whoever they dig up next. And everybody keeps talking about how scary and mean Thanos is when in reality everybody knows Thor 3 and Cap 3 are on, and there's a Black Widow movie on the works and so on. Everybody knows what Marvel will do for the next 6 years.

Or you know legacy characters...like what everyone is expecting of Cap sooner rather than later. Don't get me wrong you might have a point, but it is based on comics and comics doesn't care who dies. They might bring you back 6 weeks or 6 years later, and everyone knows that eventually every character will be back, but that sure has never stopped them from killing off characters and I don't see the movies being afraid of it either. Maybe Stark won't be going for a bit, but everyone that isn't Ironman, Thor, and Widow are fair game and more than likely someone is going to die and find their retirement with the reaper. Then they might be replaced by a D-lister or what have you. lol

 

[Something Amyss]

Was pretty funny since it should read "Military white guy and his black buddy", but it was made by people who look for things to complain about so I didn't really pay it much mind.

Or, you know, you're assuming Falcon and they're assuming Bucky. Hey, by your logic, aren't you just looking for something to complain about by interpreting future movies we don't know anything about differently?

Funny thing about assuming motives.

 

[Zontar]

Was pretty funny since it should read "Military white guy and his black buddy", but it was made by people who look for things to complain about so I didn't really pay it much mind.

Or, you know, you're assuming Falcon and they're assuming Bucky. Hey, by your logic, aren't you just looking for something to complain about by interpreting future movies we don't know anything about differently?

Funny thing about assuming motives.

It's not really an assumption when the movie's cast was revealed at practically the same time the movie itself was. Unless the maker of the image was as ignorant about the movies as the stereotypical image of the people who make these things are, then they'd have known the movie had Falcon and Black Widow as the supporting characters.

It was either an intentional act or an unintentional perpetuation of a negative image these type of people have around them. I know they say never to attribute to malice what could be incompetence, but I try not to.

 

[Something Amyss]

Marvel will just keep throwing bigger and badder villains ala DBZ, while heroes will have to be retired and replaced with younger versions of themselves or D-list faff like Ant-Man or whoever they dig up next.

Marvel's made a cinematic empire largely out of C and D listers. If they can keep doing what they do with the "faff," then by all means.

Or you know legacy characters...like what everyone is expecting of Cap sooner rather than later. Don't get me wrong you might have a point, but it is based on comics and comics doesn't care who dies. They might bring you back 6 weeks or 6 years later, and everyone knows that eventually every character will be back, but that sure has never stopped them from killing off characters and I don't see the movies being afraid of it either. Maybe Stark won't be going for a bit, but everyone that isn't Ironman, Thor, and Widow are fair game and more than likely someone is going to die and find their retirement with the reaper. Then they might be replaced by a D-lister or what have you. lol

Killing off a character and bringing them back strikes me as a decent opportunity to change actors. The question is, would they accept a replacement for RDJ or Chris Evans even in 6 years? Probably Evans, but Downey pretty much is Iron Man to the general viewing public. Would it look like anything but a reboot? I don't know, maybe the public won't care, considering they still go watch all the other superhero flicks.

With Iron Man and Cap, at least there's replacements in the wings, which are both comic canon friendly and have been set up. But I'm nt sure even that will be a long-term solution.

On the plus side, I doubt anyone would have even THOUGHT there would be a legacy issue when they started the MCU with guys like Cap and Iron Man.