All Men Cheat

[shrekfan246]

An interesting dilemma.

As a man [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzDK70zO-Eo], objecting to this sort of behaviour is basically admitting that if you were in a relationship, and a stranger prepositioned for sex, you'd agree without question. Whereas not objecting to it is basically admitting that you want to be prepositioned by a stranger for sex.

Kinda like asking "does this outfit makes me look fat". There doesn't seem like a right answer, but Hanlon's razor says that it can't be that all women hate relationships (obviously if this were the case humanity would have died out when feminism happened)... maybe they're testing the waters for chubby chasers?

Objecting to... what behavior? Cheating? How does objecting to cheating "basically admit" to agreeing without question to a [HEADING=1]proposition[/HEADING][footnote]A "preposition" is a grammatical tool, used to link nouns, pronouns, and phrases with other words.[/footnote] for sex? And how is not objecting to cheating mean that you're "basically admitting" to wanting to be propositioned for sex? I want to see what kind of math goes on at your school.

I don't see how you can look at "Objects to cheating" and get "Must want to cheat" and then take the complete opposite ("Doesn't object to cheating") and reach the same conclusion.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

Does make me think, though- who do we consider worse?
The cheater (one in the relationship) or the cheatee (one they cheat with)?
I'd always blame the cheater more, because they made the commitment, but a lot of people just go for the cheatee.

I blame them both equally. You can't 'cheat' without the cheater and the cheatee.

Cheatee, sounds like some knock-off of Cheetos.

 

[Stripes]

Your friends broken logic is just a lame defence for her actions. if she goes out of her way to seduce men who are in relationships and then uses this to prove men are sluts then she does not know irony. This woman's blanket view of a gender is nothing to worry about, she is just a fool.

 

[Madgamer13]

It's a flawed argument because you can claim things without evidence? That's not particularly convincing to anyone who doesn't have a vested interest in believing it to be true.

Greets!

No, it is not a flawed argument because I claim anything. Nor am I claiming anything, since whatever beliefs that someone wishes to hold about whether a man would cheat with another woman, is entirely for them to hold. I respect and would not seek to contradict someone's beliefs, regardless of evidence presented by anyone.

The reason of which I say that it is a flawed arguement is that the logic behind stating that such men would not cheat if she was not there, can be easily contested by the logic of an individual's intention, the man in the example cheating regardless of who he has already cheated with.

This does not mean that I am assuming evidence, nor do I intend it to be focused on any particular individual, I am merely attempting to point out the differences in argumentitive logic. If you've taken issue with this, then I apologise.

If we wish to assume evidence on this particular case, I would assume that since men have cheated with her against their girlfriends, I personally find it probable that they'd cheat again with another woman.

What do you think?

 

[SkellgrimOrDave]

Not a cheater myself, but I have trouble getting my head round the idea of monogamy, but i'd never cheat, threesomes and open relationships on the other hand - wonderful fun.

I've got a lot of love to give, and frankly, one woman can't really provide everything for a relationship. But i'd never lie and tell someone they were the only one I was seeing if I was with someone else as well.

So all in all, i'm an ethical slut.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

I have been cheated on... I had been with the girl for 4 and a half years, and it hurt like hell... I would never, ever, cheat for that reason! I couldn't do that to someone!

I have had offers, and those moments which normally would lead to some sort of sex, whilst away from a girlfriend, and have never had problems turning them down! I have never even accidentally drunken kissed anyone when in a relationship... I don't agree with the statement contained within the title of this thread!

 

[Hagi]

Finally someone gets it! Man, men are shit. They are so shallow and only think about sex. No wonder, they seem to be dicks with legs most of the time.

...Yup

Preach it sister! You go girl!

 

[Aurora Firestorm]

Wow, I leave for one weekend and this kind of thread appears.

Of *course* not all men cheat. Of *course* all men aren't powerless horn-dogs who will screw anything that moves. Of *course* some of them are, but absolutely not all of them.

Seriously, this isn't even a question. Like any other "lifestyle" of sorts, some people want to have sex with everything, and some don't. Some are okay committing to one person, and some aren't. Some have more self-control or morals or whatever else, and some don't.

This mentality is a huge excuse to cheat on people and feel justified, and it is an insult to men.

 

[Ren3004]

Some men cheat, some women cheat. And obviously not all members of either gender do it.

Some people just have completely unrealistic opinions and end up generalizing them. I bet she'd be pissed if someone cheated on her.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

I don't see anything wrong with her attitude. I mean, if she wants to try to have sex with married guys--go for it. More power to her, in fact. If she can seduce a man into cheating, well, that relationship was doomed from the start, right? A guy who's going to cheat is going to cheat eventually. The person who is in a relationship should be the responsible one; they should be the one to say "No." How is it her fault if the married men CHOOSE to have sex with her?

TL;DR: She's doing nothing wrong. It's those in the committed relationship that are in the wrong.

Your logic is a bit flawed. She's still doing something wrong she's just slightly less responsible. The fact that the relationship might not have worked out isn't some magic get out of jail free card, she's still fucking people she should not be fucking.

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

This statement is obviously false and only applies to people (not just men) with limited thought capacities who often think with their reproductive organs than with their brains. Their default response to "Would you do this if you/Should I do this if I could get away with it?" is often times, "Yes." They see it as a rare opportunity that they feel could be justified because they feel that other would have done the same or have in fact, done the same.

These people need to stop listening to what the world is telling them and blaming it on something that a multitude of people have done. Be the bigger person; if you feel like cheating, just end the relationship you are in first. Chances are that you are either looking for something else in a relationship or are not ready to be in a serious, committed relationship.

 

[D-Class 198482]

I am a male in a relationship. Don't cheat, I only use tgm in Fallout 3 THATGAMEISSOFUCKIN'HARD so WRRRROONG

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Your logic is a bit flawed. She's still doing something wrong she's just slightly less responsible. The fact that the relationship might not have worked out isn't some magic get out of jail free card, she's still fucking people she should not be fucking.

Perhaps. It is sleazy, I'll say that, but she's not forcing them to have sex with her. If they choose to have sex with her, how is she the bad one? They're the one in the relationship, they should keep it in their pants. Yeah, she came onto them, but that could happen even if she wasn't trying to hit on married men. You don't always notice the ring on someone's finger.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

Your logic is a bit flawed. She's still doing something wrong she's just slightly less responsible. The fact that the relationship might not have worked out isn't some magic get out of jail free card, she's still fucking people she should not be fucking.

Perhaps. It is sleazy, I'll say that, but she's not forcing them to have sex with her. If they choose to have sex with her, how is she the bad one? They're the one in the relationship, they should keep it in their pants. Yeah, she came onto them, but that could happen even if she wasn't trying to hit on married men. You don't always notice the ring on someone's finger.

This isn't her being mistaken she's actively seeking these people out.

Excuse me if this is a bit direct but: PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING BAD IS BAD. The girl who's doing this is hurting someone, even if it's inevenitable. They should keep it in their pants and she KNOWS that. She shouldn't participate in their adultery.

 

[Olas]

Oh my god, is this thread still going? Why the hell do escapists care about the idiotic beliefs/excuses some retarded girl they don't know?

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Your logic is a bit flawed. She's still doing something wrong she's just slightly less responsible. The fact that the relationship might not have worked out isn't some magic get out of jail free card, she's still fucking people she should not be fucking.

Perhaps. It is sleazy, I'll say that, but she's not forcing them to have sex with her. If they choose to have sex with her, how is she the bad one? They're the one in the relationship, they should keep it in their pants. Yeah, she came onto them, but that could happen even if she wasn't trying to hit on married men. You don't always notice the ring on someone's finger.

This isn't her being mistaken she's actively seeking these people out.

Excuse me if this is a bit direct but: PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING BAD IS BAD. The girl who's doing this is hurting someone, even if it's inevenitable. They should keep it in their pants and she KNOWS that. She shouldn't participate in their adultery.

Yes, I know she's actively seeking them out.

But there wouldn't be any adultery if they simply said "No." I do think it's a bit of a dick move (no pun intended,) but I don't think she deserves all the hate she's getting. So yeah, I take back what I said in my first post; she's not completely guilt free, but I still think 95% of the guilt is on the married man. Nothing happens unless he wants it to. If he didn't want to cheat on his wife, he wouldn't. Simple as that.

 

[Mikeyfell]

I don't think it's the issue, I've been in a couple of relationships (Enough to notice a pattern anyway) hanging out with girls is all fine and good, and having friends who are girls is even better, until they break the arbitrary "girlfriend barrier". Passed that point they are no longer a girl, a woman, a friend or even a person. They are a "girlfriend" and a "girlfriend" has one job only: Ruin your fucking life. No more sex, no more friends, no more spending money on something that isn't me, no more talking out of turn, no more anything. And you're sitting there with this dumb look on your face going "What happened? What'd I do?"

(Disclaimer: I'm sure you aren't like that any females who read this post. I'm mostly talking about my experience)

Most guys I know who have had girlfriends (Or wives) have cheated, but the also do nothing but complain about how bitchy their girlfriends are. And when I ask why they don't just break up the response is usually "But I love her." and occasionally "I've been with her so long I'm used to it."

So it's all based on preemptive stereotyping. "All Men Cheat" "All Women are Bitches" and it's a huge Chicken Egg debate over which gender fucked it up first. (Probably men, but that's still no excuse)

The moral of the story is be gay. All the gay people I know have decent relationships and treat each other like human beings, maybe they just know something we don't.

 

[Nemesis729]

Well I know I've never cheated... Never really spoken to a girl either though. So you take the good with the bad I suppose

 

[CaptOfSerenity]

Your friend's just a HUGE *****.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Your logic is a bit flawed. She's still doing something wrong she's just slightly less responsible. The fact that the relationship might not have worked out isn't some magic get out of jail free card, she's still fucking people she should not be fucking.

Perhaps. It is sleazy, I'll say that, but she's not forcing them to have sex with her. If they choose to have sex with her, how is she the bad one? They're the one in the relationship, they should keep it in their pants. Yeah, she came onto them, but that could happen even if she wasn't trying to hit on married men. You don't always notice the ring on someone's finger.

This isn't her being mistaken she's actively seeking these people out.

Excuse me if this is a bit direct but: PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING BAD IS BAD. The girl who's doing this is hurting someone, even if it's inevenitable. They should keep it in their pants and she KNOWS that. She shouldn't participate in their adultery.

Yes, I know she's actively seeking them out.

But there wouldn't be any adultery if they simply said "No." I do think it's a bit of a dick move (no pun intended,) but I don't think she deserves all the hate she's getting. So yeah, I take back what I said in my first post; she's not completely guilt free, but I still think 95% of the guilt is on the married man. Nothing happens unless he wants it to. If he didn't want to cheat on his wife, he wouldn't. Simple as that.

She's helping him do something she knows he shouldn't. How is that really not worthy of the hate she's getting? And it's not like guilt or condemnations are commodities you can run out of anyway.

She's not helping him. She's asking him if he wants to fuck her. That's completely up to him.