All Men Cheat

[Robert Ewing]

It's not the men at fault here. Its the men you associate with. I've never cheated on anyone. I've had a grand total of 13 proper girlfriends, I am 19 years of age, so I guess that would count as a fair few.

100% of them has cheated on me.

Trust me, the desire to betray the person you love for a brief sexual high is not isolated to gender. It's isolated to a type of person.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Your logic is a bit flawed. She's still doing something wrong she's just slightly less responsible. The fact that the relationship might not have worked out isn't some magic get out of jail free card, she's still fucking people she should not be fucking.

Perhaps. It is sleazy, I'll say that, but she's not forcing them to have sex with her. If they choose to have sex with her, how is she the bad one? They're the one in the relationship, they should keep it in their pants. Yeah, she came onto them, but that could happen even if she wasn't trying to hit on married men. You don't always notice the ring on someone's finger.

This isn't her being mistaken she's actively seeking these people out.

Excuse me if this is a bit direct but: PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING BAD IS BAD. The girl who's doing this is hurting someone, even if it's inevenitable. They should keep it in their pants and she KNOWS that. She shouldn't participate in their adultery.

Yes, I know she's actively seeking them out.

But there wouldn't be any adultery if they simply said "No." I do think it's a bit of a dick move (no pun intended,) but I don't think she deserves all the hate she's getting. So yeah, I take back what I said in my first post; she's not completely guilt free, but I still think 95% of the guilt is on the married man. Nothing happens unless he wants it to. If he didn't want to cheat on his wife, he wouldn't. Simple as that.

She's helping him do something she knows he shouldn't. How is that really not worthy of the hate she's getting? And it's not like guilt or condemnations are commodities you can run out of anyway.

She's not helping him. She's asking him if he wants to fuck her. That's completely up to him.

So you mean he's able to do it without anyone else helping him? Well that's news. Or maybe yes, given he can't cheat on his own the person he's cheating with is helping him cheat.

Semantics. I think if she were to be helping him cheat, she'd have to be helping him seduce someone else. As it stands, she's not really doing anything to HELP him cheat, she's merely inquiring if he WILL cheat.

Anyway, I'm getting bored of this thread, so agree to disagree. I'm gonna go listen to Yes.

 

[Bloodstain]

I know much more women who cheated -- including my own mother -- or still cheat than men.

Also it should become social custom that people who are in a relationship register officially as a couple (even underage couples; it should become normal to register once you start your relationship -- sort of like how the Facebook status "In a relationship" is used right now, but in an official way), and then, cheating should have legal consequences.
Yes, that's right. If people won't stay faithful, I will make them stay faithful.

Also your friend has an unhealthy desire to put herself in a position of power over others. She probably has self-esteem issues.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Your logic is a bit flawed. She's still doing something wrong she's just slightly less responsible. The fact that the relationship might not have worked out isn't some magic get out of jail free card, she's still fucking people she should not be fucking.

Perhaps. It is sleazy, I'll say that, but she's not forcing them to have sex with her. If they choose to have sex with her, how is she the bad one? They're the one in the relationship, they should keep it in their pants. Yeah, she came onto them, but that could happen even if she wasn't trying to hit on married men. You don't always notice the ring on someone's finger.

This isn't her being mistaken she's actively seeking these people out.

Excuse me if this is a bit direct but: PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING BAD IS BAD. The girl who's doing this is hurting someone, even if it's inevenitable. They should keep it in their pants and she KNOWS that. She shouldn't participate in their adultery.

Yes, I know she's actively seeking them out.

But there wouldn't be any adultery if they simply said "No." I do think it's a bit of a dick move (no pun intended,) but I don't think she deserves all the hate she's getting. So yeah, I take back what I said in my first post; she's not completely guilt free, but I still think 95% of the guilt is on the married man. Nothing happens unless he wants it to. If he didn't want to cheat on his wife, he wouldn't. Simple as that.

She's helping him do something she knows he shouldn't. How is that really not worthy of the hate she's getting? And it's not like guilt or condemnations are commodities you can run out of anyway.

She's not helping him. She's asking him if he wants to fuck her. That's completely up to him.

So you mean he's able to do it without anyone else helping him? Well that's news. Or maybe yes, given he can't cheat on his own the person he's cheating with is helping him cheat.

Semantics. I think if she were to be helping him cheat, she'd have to be helping him seduce someone else. As it stands, she's not really doing anything to HELP him cheat, she's merely inquiring if he WILL cheat.

Not at all semantics. She's not merely inquiring. If she was then she wouldn't be having sex with him. It's not as if merely inquiring is all she does, that's a fairly laughable idea. It's not like she asks and then he jumps on her and rapes her.

Wait, so if you ask someone to have sex with you, then they have sex you, you've just been raped?

And see, I'd count flirting and all that innuendo under "Inquire." Unless the man is exceptionally weak-willed, it shouldn't be too hard for him to say "No" when the subject of "Do you want to have sex with rape me?" comes up. I honestly don't think you can "Help" someone cheat.

Spoiler: ALSO

 

[Easton Dark]

cheating should have legal consequences.
Yes, that's right. If people won't stay faithful, I will make them stay faithful.

Woah, okay, that may be taking it a little too far. It's deplorable and an awful thing to do to someone, but I don't see why it's a crime.

 

[Bloodstain]

cheating should have legal consequences.
Yes, that's right. If people won't stay faithful, I will make them stay faithful.

Woah, okay, that may be taking it a little too far. It's deplorable and an awful thing to do to someone, but I don't see why it's a crime.

Well, to me, enforced faithfulness is still better than none at all. I find it very hard to trust people, so I prefer to know someone won't cheat on me because it's illegal than because of simple trust.

Anyway, as dystopic as it may seem now, after one or two generations this custom would be considered 'normal' anyway, so there's that. And once it became normal, the world is a better and more faithful place! Yay!

[small]No, I don't have many more such plans...um...
Hm. I should never be put in a position of power.[/small]

Edit: Then again, it's not only my trust issues -- I consider cheating people to be despicable scum in general, regardless of whether they are important to me or not. Someone who cheats either
1) has no self-control and is thus throwing away the great gift of having a critical human mind, effectively reducing him-/herself to a mere animal, or
2) has absolutely no sense of loyalty or commitment in a relationship.
Both of those things, in my opinion, are absolutely despicable.

 

[Radelaide]

Can I just say, this is the first time I've been proud of the community in a while. This turned into a "Needs more Nathan" thread so quickly...

;_; You're all growing up so quick...

 

[FrozenCones]

The only time ive ever cheated was IDKFA and IDDQD.

I'm such a horrible person.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Do you understand what the word 'not' means? I'm saying that if that's all she ever did it'd be rape. I'm mocking the idea that all she did was inquire. She then went and had sex.

Okay. First of all, I think you've gravely misunderstood me somewhere down the line. She inquires if they want to have sex, if they say yes, they have sex. I don't think I ever said anything to the contrary.

It's not like she wasn't having sex after inquiring. If she wasn't then what's that leave besides rape?

What does this even mean?

Not at all semantics. She's not merely inquiring. If she was then she wouldn't be having sex with him. It's not as if merely inquiring is all she does, that's a fairly laughable idea. It's not like she asks and then he jumps on her and rapes her.

If you ask someone "Hey, you wanna have sex?" and they respond with "Yes," that would be rape in your eyes? A person inquires, the other person answers with yes, they have sex, but one of them just raped the other? Maybe you could explain that a bit better. Are you assuming that the person asking to have sex does not want to have sex? What would be the point in asking then? It's like "Hey, you wanna have some ice cream? "Yes!" "Fuck you! Ice cream murdered my dad!"

All she is doing is hitting on them. That's more or less just beating around the bush of "Hey, do you wanna have sex?" All she's doing is INQUIRING if they want to have sex. If the married guy says yes, they have sex.

Sure he can say no. That doesn't mean that she doesn't do more than inquire afterward if he says 'yes'.

Huh? You've lost me here. I mean... obviously... I wasn't saying that nothing happens if the guy says "Yes" when asked whether or not he wants to have sex. What are you talking about?

 

[Johnny Impact]

Hi.

I'm Daystar Clarion. You may know me from such social statuses as 'I've been with the same girl since I was 15', and 'Love is playing Borderlands coop with your significant other, then having sex with her'.

And I didn't cheat in any of them.

"Looks up" Sigh, at least Daystar isn't forever alone.

OT: No, not all men cheat, I am a man and I haven't cheated on anyone, because I can't get into a relationship to cheat on anyone.

Quoted for total agreement, for being in my exact situation (erttheking's situation, unfortunately, not Daystar's. I feel like one of those losers in a deodorant commercial who's just a bit too thickheaded to understand WHY the ladies always move away quickly).........

.....and for more Fillion.

 

[BarbaricGoose]

Snip

I'll be honest, I've forgotten what we were arguing about, so I'm gonna go back to NOT arguing on the internet. But based on all... that... I'm gonna go ahead and assume I was wrong.

But lemme just say, I haven't heard an adult seriously say "Duh" before. Which reminds me, I also heard someone say something amazing the other day. Which I've forgotten now, but I'm pretty sure it was "The bomb" or some other saying that died several years ago. It was something even less relevant than "The bomb," though. This is gonna drive me nuts.

Anyway, I had fun.

 

[Mudze]

I'd go so far as to say that most men are faithful, with a decreasing amount of male infidelity and an increasing amount of female infidelity, as the men that would cheat get away with it less and women that are now using the logic 'Eh, my husband/boyfriend is gonna do it anyway, I might as well get ahead of the game'.

tl;dr people are morons.

 

[Charli]

Oh them whores and their self-justification. Adorable.

 

[Vegosiux]

Okay, guilty as charged. I glanced at the other guy's cards the other night when we were playing...but they can see the reflection of mine in my glasses, so there!

And that's as much seriousness as I am inclined to put into a reply to something like that.

 

[Aethren]

I was going to portray my thoughts about the OP's friend, but I've had over a thousand posts without incurring mod wrath, and my descriptive terms relating to bottom-feeding fish and single-celled organisms would likely land me into trouble, so I'll have to refrain from repeating them.

 

[Bassik]

Hmf. I've had plenty of opportunities to cheat on my partner, and never did. This is not special, it's actually very easy to not cheat.

 

[pirateninj4]

I cheated once. I enjoyed it, but I was also like 16, so who gives a shit.

Your friend is a slut. That is all. Attention seeking whore. Good for her, she'll have fun with that when she's alone in her 30's with no real relationship skills to show for it.

 

[Treblaine]

Obvious BS to deflect from her actions that she doesn't want to accept responsibility for.
Any man who declared all women were cheaters would be branded prejudiced against women, the inverse is equally true and we shouldn't be so reluctant to call out such prejudice.

 

[Charli]

Oh them whores and their self-justification. Adorable.

That's... Not a helpful thing to say.

Oh that woman of ill repute and that justification of her frowned-upon actions. Quite interesting.



...I'm sorry but what do YOU want me to say. Are you looking for censorship or a change in my point?

 

[Angie7F]

My best friend has a taste for married men too.
I find it to get lame after a while because it seems like it is her only validation.