"All PC Games Run On Macs." What?

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MadeinHell

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1. Your friend is either joking or a complete idiot.
2. You can buy a computer two times more powerful than a mac for three times less money.
 

Veritasiness

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MadeinHell said:
1. Your friend is either joking or a complete idiot.
2. You can buy a computer two times more powerful than a mac for three times less money.
Both true - but you can run Windows on your Mac, natively. By natively, I mean without OS X or anything else in between your hardware and Windows; it will work just fine on its own and use the full capability of your system. Mac hardware is just wrapped in an extra shiny container; it's the exact same stuff everyone else uses.

Additionally, yeah, RAM tends to come in even numbers (256, 512, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB being most common) - but it can be in any combination (1GB is fairly common, and 768MB used to be).
 

Snotnarok

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Your friend doesn't know what they're talking about. Macs are very expensive and for sometimes less than half the price you can build a faster machine.

Edit: Unless you REALLY like the stuff about Macs (size, the OS) there's no reason to get them since they're literally a PC with different software. They have an intel processor, a nvidia graphics card, there's nothing in them that's special. They used to have different processors and such but that all changed a while ago.

I know people that have macs and they basically just like how it looks and runs different, if that's worth the extra grand or two you'll have to put into it then go for it.
 

mrhateful

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3000$ for a PC whhhaaaaaaa.... A pc that can run all games in medium to high settings costs around 900$-1100$, On my brand new super awesome PC(that can run all games on highest settings) I spent a total of 1640$

Ohh wait you brought mac...
 

crudus

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I know you can boot windows with some Mac OSes, so Macs can technically play PC games. It just isn't the Mac OS that is doing the running. I just find it rather pointless.

MrGseff said:
Also RAM tends to go in even numbers so I think this guy may have been lying
There was a time when 256mb RAM was a ludicrous amount. Ram can in fact me an odd number. It isn't as commonplace in newer models of computers, but you found it all of the time about 2-3 years ago. You can still do it now if you want.
 

The Virgo

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Thanks everybody for your comments! :D And also, thanks for telling me about how much a good PC costs; I'm glad it won't be $3,000. This means I'll probably be able to upgrade sooner than I anticipated! :D

mrhateful said:
3000$ for a PC whhhaaaaaaa.... A pc that can run all games in medium to high settings costs around 900$-1100$, On my brand new super awesome PC(that can run all games on highest settings) I spent a total of 1640$

Ohh wait you brought mac...
Wait, when did I ever say that I bought a Mac? /:-|

Someone didn't read the thread that well ...
 

mrhateful

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The Virgo said:
Wait, when did I ever say that I bought a Mac? /:-|

Someone didn't read the thread that well ...
I concluded that it was the only way you could think that a PC costs 3000$
 

Hoplon

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razer17 said:
does any mobo have 5 RAM slots?
As an aside, some of the older Mac Pro desk tops have 16 memory slots on separate riser cards, beautiful crazy things that they are.

The current trend for even numbers in ram size is solely down to dual channel configurations to allow more bandwidth, there is also triple channel but that seems to have been largely abandoned recently.

should be able to get a single computer for both uses, since you can get Hexacore chips if you need the processing power and then slot in 2 4 gb sticks of ram and a latest gen graphics card and Robert is very much your mothers brother.
 

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crudus said:
There was a time when 256mb RAM was a ludicrous amount. Ram can in fact me an odd number. It isn't as commonplace in newer models of computers, but you found it all of the time about 2-3 years ago. You can still do it now if you want.
A lot of the time, those computers with 256 MB RAM had two sticks which were 128 MB apiece. So, it still was sort of paired. The thing is that, in ye old days, memory likes to be installed in pairs, and some types wouldn't work unless you had two matching memory sticks. These days, I don't think most motherboards care and single sticks of memory work, but on motherboards with 4 open slots for memory it makes the most sense for the manufacturer to install memory in two of them - it's usually cheaper to purchase, say, two 1 GB sticks than it is to purchase one 2 GB stick, but at the same time you leave the user two spots open for expansion, so everyone's content.

The best way to think of pairing is to figure out what the number actually means (for example, 3 GB is actually 3072 MB) and then see if it's a power of two. If not, it's probably not paired and you've got an odd amount of memory in there - which isn't a problem, but you should identify why. In a worst case scenario, it could indicate you're supposed to have 4 GB and a 1 GB stick is not working.
 

The Virgo

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mrhateful said:
The Virgo said:
Wait, when did I ever say that I bought a Mac? /:-|

Someone didn't read the thread that well ...
I concluded that it was the only way you could think that a PC costs 3000$
Actually, the "Hard Stuff Trinity" section of PC Gamer magazine is the culprit. Their top of the line recommendation PC (complete with two GTX 580's in SLI) comes out to $4,200. So, I figured a just-as-good system would cost me around $3,000, especially considering that I want a case like this:


Edit: Then again, if a nice case is going to delay me upgrading, I'll just get a plain, generic one.

Also, I've never owned an Apple product in my life. Not even an iPod.
 

YuheJi

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The Virgo said:
mrhateful said:
The Virgo said:
Wait, when did I ever say that I bought a Mac? /:-|

Someone didn't read the thread that well ...
I concluded that it was the only way you could think that a PC costs 3000$
Actually, the "Hard Stuff Trinity" section of PC Gamer magazine is the culprit. Their top of the line recommendation PC (complete with two GTX 580's in SLI) comes out to $4,200. So, I figured a just-as-good system would cost me around $3,000, especially considering that I want a case like this:


Edit: Then again, if a nice case is going to delay me upgrading, I'll just get a plain, generic one.

Also, I've never owned an Apple product in my life. Not even an iPod.
I'm sure your comp could cost thousands of dollars if you go for the bleeding edge and excessive stuff like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227724
But if you just want to play games, around $1000 is more than enough for your needs. Computer parts keep coming out, and the slightly less new parts start dropping in price so quickly after the newest iteration comes out that you can build a PC for your needs fairly cheaply.
 

Troublesome Lagomorph

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EPIC.FAIL.
>There is no 5 gigs of RAM, it comes in even numbers.
>No, games don't work that way. Its not a console.
>Most games on PC are NOT mac compatible, even though a lot more are now than in past years.
>Yes, you can install windows on a mac, but that's stupid as the mac is more expensive and cannot be modified for shit.
>>The hardware on macs is shit to begin with.
>A good gaming PC is not that expensive. I have a good rig and it cost me less than $1000, and that's after I took a regular computer and changed all its hardware.
>Games are made on PCs, usually. He'd be right if we were in the 90's.
>You can get a better monitor for a PC.
>It doesn't usually get crazy hot like a mac does.
>Also, if its "five more gigs of ram" then what the hell is it to start with?
 

Zeema

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Bullshit

TONS of games can't work on mac i have a mac and its shitty with games.


but you can install a program on MAc that lets you play pc games but its really annoying and hard to work.
 

Jamous

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The Virgo said:
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Bullshit; Have a Mac, am on it currently. Games, they do not work on it. If I even try, they tend to look hideous and the lag doesn't even bear thinking about.
Seriously, get a half-decent gaming laptop. Make sure you look for it though, don't get an Alienware. They're shit and overpriced. My friend got a ridiculously good one for £650. Almost 3GHz Quad Core Processor, 3GB RAM (Yes it is possible), 1GB Graphics Card, 750GB HDD, Windows 7, 17" Screen. It's absolutely beautiful. Unfortunately I can't remember the model, but I will check and edit that in. ;)
EDIT; It's a Sony Vaio vpcf13m8e. LAPTOPLINK! [http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&q=Sony+Vaio+vpcf13m8e&gs_upl=5715l5715l0l5920l1l1l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1920&bih=992&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1587068869591412155&sa=X&ei=IH6TTt6MDcq88gO25JCZBw&ved=0CFYQ8wIwAg] Anyway, it's a very nice machine. My friend's adding in extra RAM as well. Gonna be good. :p
 

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The Virgo said:
Well, this friend then said this, pretty much word for word: "All PC games can run on Mac. They were designed on Macs. You put it in and, BOOM, it's loaded. No installing, no waiting, it's in there instantly. On a computer, you have to put it in, wait for it to install, no, not on a Mac. It's installed the moment you put it in."
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Also, he mentioned when talking about the difference between the $700 and $1,200 iMac, he said the $1,200 iMac has, "... Five more gigs of RAM." Um, that's funny; I always thought RAM cam in 256MB, 512MB, 2Gigs, 4Gigs, 8Gigs and so on. Is it possible to have an odd number of RAM like 5 Gigs?
Everything he said is a lie... You can run a lot of games on mac. Mostly newer ones (thanks to steam), some old ones (like postal), some indie games (although they're a lot more buggy on mac) and every blizzard game I can think of. For me personally, between steam and blizzard I'd have most my bases covered but still... sticking to the point it's not true.

You can run most PC games on mac if you boot windows into it... But the hardware performance will be way below what you'd get if you were running windows on a PC ('cause of the architecture and all that). Also it's a lot more busy work getting games running in windows installed on a mac then on windows installed on a PC.

As for price... It's a horrible lie! When it comes to hardware, you get a setup 4 times more powerful on a PC for half the price of a mac. If you don't trust me check the prices and you'll see...

As for "the work you do" argument.. I've been hearing that for a long long long time as I do mostly graphical design work and I think that argument comes from some older days when all we had was windows 98 or something like that... Currently I see no real reason why mac is better for graphical work then a PC. A lot of people tried to change my mind but failed to point valid arguments.

One point I give to macs is the build quality. Macs are built with great quality materials for the case, keyboard, etc. That doesn't seem to make a big difference but sometimes it does. In laptops the main difference is in cooling. I have a Toshiba laptop and it overheats like a sweaty *****...

These are my considerations... Your fathers friend, with all due respect, was just being a fanboy... If you want a computer to work and game I wouldn't make the horrible mistake of going mac... But that's just me... Macs have some qualities to them but hardware and software availability are obviously its weakest points... I'd love to see someone counter this with FACTS and not OPINIONS...

Edit: Out of curiosity I was checking some iMac specs... I found an iMac 27 for ?1400! This is priceless... My 3 year old laptop which I bought for ?550 still manages to have better specs then this ?1400 brand new (released in may 2011) mac desktop... 4Gb of ram! i5 processor (FFS!) and a radeon hd 4670 with 256mb of vram!? trololoolol You can have 1000 valid reasons to buy a mac (you like the design, you appreciate the build quality, you enjoy the OS, etc) but hardware!? Software availability? And seriously... I just don't touch the OS because I think that's a subjective point... If you buy the mac you'll regret it and you'll spend your whole life trying to justify and rationalize that purchase!
 

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GreatTeacherCAW said:
I have a mac, and I don't have any problem running games through Wineskins, Crossover, Cider, etc. The last game I played on high settings was Battlefield: Bad Company 2, though, so I don't really know. I'm sure there are a lot of games the Mac can't run. I don't really use my computer for gaming as much as I do for work, so I can't really say.
Why is it that most game emulators on Mac/Linux etc seem to have some relation to alcohol?

OT: I...uh...wow...he makes my head hurt. All I can say is he's being a fanboy....I can't really add anything that people have said already....
...I need some Panadol now
 

DelphiSantano

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Short answer: No.
Long (and potentially slightly offensive) answer: Your "friend" is an idiot and has no idea how a basic computer works. It does not work like that. Just no.
 

maxmanrules

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If you're going to get a gaming rig, do not spend three grand, and do not buy ready-made, you need to but individual parts and then stick them together (or get a specialist computer store to put them together for you)
Also, that dude is moronic.
Shoot him
 

The Cheshire

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You can run Windows with Boot Camp if you wish, I am actually using Win XP on a Mac at the moment (i restarted on Windows to play Hard Reset, not because it's a better system :) ).

But no, it's not so easy.