alpha protocol is on sale on gamers gate atm and does anyone know if the games still broken, i know it got poor reviews but there are obviously some good points and some people say its quite a good game behind the bugs and such is it worth picking up on the pc or should i just leave it?
Alpha Protocol
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Gameplay wise - no. It's not particularly good. It's tolerable, but it lags. A lot.
However, as far as spy games go, this is the closest thing you could get to a James Bond sim. The story's great, the characters are fun, the dialogue system is the best I've seen.
If you think you can look past the gameplay issues, buy it.
If you need more information, I don't know where to send you. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.227034-JourneyThroughHell-Reviews-Alpha-Protocol-PC]
However, as far as spy games go, this is the closest thing you could get to a James Bond sim. The story's great, the characters are fun, the dialogue system is the best I've seen.
If you think you can look past the gameplay issues, buy it.
If you need more information, I don't know where to send you. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.227034-JourneyThroughHell-Reviews-Alpha-Protocol-PC]
If it's on sale for 20-30 bucks, it's actually a decent game for that price, as long as you sort of dug Mass Effect (They're not so similar that I'd say if you liked mass effect you'd like AP, but they're similar), and want a more stealth oriented game. It has a lot of romance options, a lot of neat twists in the ending (and actually 3 seperate and distinct endings), some fun characters and some genuinely good combat (although a couple of the bosses are flatout annoying to fight). And the conversation system and reputation system are actually one of the best in this genre.RoboGeek said:
That's all I can really say - it's worth about 25 bucks to me (if I hadn't already played the hell out of it - now it'd be worth 10 at most - but fresh, it's a good 25 buck game).
My only gameplay issues were the bosses, and that One With the Shadows achievement (hardest 5 gamerscore I ever earned). The actual bulk of the combat isn't all that bad, and it's got a decent cover system.JourneyThroughHell said:
Well I've only played the Xbox version but if it's cheap I reckon go for it.I picked it up as part of a "Buy 2 get 1 free" offer and I have to say I enjoyed it a lot more than I was expecting.It does have some flaws(apparently playing as a stealth character makes the boss fights very frustrating)but I can't remember encountering many bugs,definitely no game breaking ones anyway
On PC, it lags. It lags a lot. It's somewhat hard to control, the stealth is awkward (especially after playing Conviction), so the only thing I could do was run and gun.Altorin said:
And there were the hacking minigames. They were insufferable, complete, utter pain.
at the moment its £9.99 or about $15.97 problem is i didn't really enjoy mass effect that much i found the balance between gameplay and talking was a bit off but ap has the timer if i remember correctly so talking shouldn't take as long. i think i will get it for £10 im not really loosing much really
Once I got used to the hacking minigame, it wasn't that bad.. The lockpicking minigame and the bypass minigames at their hardest settings were actually much more difficult due to time constraints.JourneyThroughHell said:
In the beginning, the hacking was literally impossible for me to do.. and the lockpicking and bypass minigames were decent and actually decent flavor. Then I got the hang of the hacking minigame, and it didn't get too much harder then it started out as.. The lockpicking and bypass games ramped up in difficulty considerably, eventually requiring you to almost be precognizant, due to ridiculous time constraints. I never had that problem with hacking, once I got the hang of it.
I'll agree that it's really fucking awkward at first though (and perhaps if it doesn't ever click with you, always awkward), as it seems to make you need to use both of your eyes independantly of eachother.
There's a fix for the lag, just need to edit a few .ini parameters, found it on the net when the game hit, worked perfectly from there on, played through the game twice. Speaking of Conviction, that thing lagged so hard for me I just couldn't be arsed with the game anymore halfway through, so never finished it (also got kinda bored).JourneyThroughHell said:
Stealth is a bit odd indeed, though I had no probs with it after a while. It's sort of going for realism and then smashing the realism with RPG elements (especially cooldowns where you can walk right up to someone's face and be invisible). That said, the game's enjoyable as hell and the story's really good... the choices felt very real and awesome, felt like a completely original experience with the game's system.
This is my one and greatest issue with the game. Unless you specialise (pick it as one of the three specialisations) in the stuff that gives you hacking bonuses, it's an absolute nightmare after a while.JourneyThroughHell said:
Near the end of the game, there was this situation where an alarm went off but it wasn't an issue... so I came up to the alarm-turn-off-ing-minigame-thing-a-ma-jiggy determined to get it done and went to town on it. It took me like 50+ consecutive attempts to get the damn thing off and I had points to make it somewhat easier (as well as an equipment upgrade that was supposed to help too, Integrated Circuitry or sth like that). There is literally NO time to think/look what you're doing, you have to do it 30% by instinct, 30% by peripheral vision and 40% by luck. And no, honestly, I'm not exaggerating, every time I'd spend an entire second looking for where I'm gonna click next (it was the connect-the-wires minigame, they're the WORST), it resulted in a failure.
I actually found lockpicking rather easy. There was no room for error later on though, but still, as long as I did it calmly, it was never much of an issue. Laptop hacking I did by a sort of an exploit... since the alarm doesn't go off if you cancel the minigame up to about 3 seconds in or so, I'd spend those 3 seconds looking for one of the combinations. If I could see it, I'd go for it, if not, cancel and repeat the process (didn't need to do this for a good while, but at the end, it really gets bad and it's pretty much the only option aside from EMPing every laptop, which I was already doing for the fucking circuitry).Altorin said:
I'll assume you played the 360 version going by you mentioning achievements and what-not (unless that game's on GFWL).Altorin said:
Well, I didn't play that one. I played the PC version. The wire minigame was easy, lockpicking was easy... but hacking was not.
Far from it. Very far. Almost a hundred kilometres far.
The problem was never acually finding the stationary numbers. No. The problem was, you had to line the two rows up using your keyboard... and your fucking mouse. The mouse controls were so sensitive, so unstable, that, even when you got the row near the goal, it was frankly impossible to get the bastard to behave.
Add a fairly strict time limit and, yeah. Screw that. To hell.
I myself played Conviction on the 360, it never lagged and controlled dream-like.Vrach said:
Alpha Protocol is a fun game if you come into it with a open mind and don't expect a revolution. I Myself was pleasantly surprised from a game that gets alot of flak. It pretty much nailed the sense of being a spy and the dialogue is witty, funny and sometimes egotistical. I admit it is far from a perfect game as for example if you go for a stealth build you can run into problems when you face tough bosses and the A.I is very poor sometimes.
For twenty Pounds though I say it is worth every penny.
For twenty Pounds though I say it is worth every penny.
I had no glitches. None. And I played through it 5 times. It is one of the most enjoyable games I played this year.
I honestly did not like the game. Nothing about really jumped out and made me love it or even like it in the least. The Spy class if overpowered, the guns and tech are completely worthless to anyone who didn't put points into that class and the story is horrible and confusing. Not to mention that it is short. Like about an afternoon's worth of bad game-play, horrible story and a main character that makes you wanna rip your ears out.
In short, Its a game you either really love or hate with a burning passion. I'm one of the latter.
In short, Its a game you either really love or hate with a burning passion. I'm one of the latter.