I don't think you know how "medicine" works, but the resulting conspiracy theory is adorable."jimahaff said:
Alternative medicine...
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When I feel sick I take two tablets of these: http://www.belowtheclouds.com/uploads/2008/07/treo01.jpg
Does that count?
Does that count?
if its one less trip under the knife or put on horrible drugs to fix something then ill do it... ive had a couple of things fixed by alternative medicine in the past and they were the same things that modern medicine had absolutely no idea how to fix or what they were.
I'm sceptical of it. In you anecdote about having a cold, you said you got over it after a couple of days. Isn't it fairly normal to get over colds in a few days anyway?
Meh. If I ever have to go on medication I tend to look up the tests that were done on the drug. Its quite easy for companies to fudge results slightly in their favour.
Some alternative medicine may work, but homeopathy sure as hell doesn't. Not sure about chinese medicine.
Meh. If I ever have to go on medication I tend to look up the tests that were done on the drug. Its quite easy for companies to fudge results slightly in their favour.
Some alternative medicine may work, but homeopathy sure as hell doesn't. Not sure about chinese medicine.
I've found that a lot of it has positive results. For instance, we brew a tea made form peppermint, dill seed, and basil that absolves almost any stomach ailment, short of an actual virus. Seriously, it's instant relief.
A lot of it does stem from folk magic, though, which most of the time stems from ignorance. Using a duck's egg strapped to your head to prevent blindness I can say most likely does not work. The tonics and what not tend to work though. It's kind of hard to ignore thousands of years of herbalism.
A lot of it does stem from folk magic, though, which most of the time stems from ignorance. Using a duck's egg strapped to your head to prevent blindness I can say most likely does not work. The tonics and what not tend to work though. It's kind of hard to ignore thousands of years of herbalism.
This can pretty much sum up my thoughts about homeopathy and alternate medicines.
Alternative medicine always seems a little... fake to me.
If they did have such an effect, and worked so well, then the cynical part of me would have a hard time believing that all the big pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be jumping at the chance to patent that crap and sell it for profit.
Alternative medicine always seems a little... fake to me.
If they did have such an effect, and worked so well, then the cynical part of me would have a hard time believing that all the big pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be jumping at the chance to patent that crap and sell it for profit.
personally I don't care whether or not it is legit, I f*cking hate Chinese medicine when it involves animal parts because of how it is farmed. Case in point:SckizoBoy said:
Already been quoted, but as Tim Minchin said, "By definition, alternative medicine either has not been proved to work or has been proved not to work. You know what they call alternative medicine that's been proved to work? Medicine."
I hate the term, first off. Medicine is anything that science shows heals you - there's no alternate. It either helps, or it doesn't. The very term implies what many proponents of homeopathy that I've spoken to believe, that there's some conspiracy stopping the truth from being accepted by science.
None of it has been proven to work, much of it doesn't make sense at all, and I've heard more than a few people using alternative medicine distrust the scientific process altogether.
It's quackery and fraud.
I hate the term, first off. Medicine is anything that science shows heals you - there's no alternate. It either helps, or it doesn't. The very term implies what many proponents of homeopathy that I've spoken to believe, that there's some conspiracy stopping the truth from being accepted by science.
None of it has been proven to work, much of it doesn't make sense at all, and I've heard more than a few people using alternative medicine distrust the scientific process altogether.
It's quackery and fraud.
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I'm a pharmacy student so I'll give my opinion about what I learned since I'm interested in the discussion here and medication stuff in general.
A lot of people believe that naturals products have no side-effects and have no interaction with anything. That's completely wrong, if it works, it has side-effects and interactions. They also believe that it will work big time when in fact very few of them have studies that actually confirmed that they work and when they do they also have studies that say that they don't work. You must use everyone of them with caution, like any other medication.
Homeopathic medicine? It's water with a tiny part of something but that part is so small it really doesn't do anything, it's practically only water that runs on the placebo effect.
For the cold that some of you spoke of, there are meds that exist to treat it but it only help reduce symptoms for 2 days max and will be given almost only to those who can get complication from cold(pregnant women, elderly...). It's a virus, it will heal itself with your immune system and every over the counter medication only serve to appease the symptoms, not treat them.
For the asthma that got cured with TCM, well asthma can cured itself and you can't say that it was the TCM that did it, you'll need a study(and more than one!) comparing it to a placebo for that.
So long story short, some of them work, some of them don't. You should not trust them blindly and if you take other things, talk to your pharmacist about it.
A lot of people believe that naturals products have no side-effects and have no interaction with anything. That's completely wrong, if it works, it has side-effects and interactions. They also believe that it will work big time when in fact very few of them have studies that actually confirmed that they work and when they do they also have studies that say that they don't work. You must use everyone of them with caution, like any other medication.
Homeopathic medicine? It's water with a tiny part of something but that part is so small it really doesn't do anything, it's practically only water that runs on the placebo effect.
For the cold that some of you spoke of, there are meds that exist to treat it but it only help reduce symptoms for 2 days max and will be given almost only to those who can get complication from cold(pregnant women, elderly...). It's a virus, it will heal itself with your immune system and every over the counter medication only serve to appease the symptoms, not treat them.
For the asthma that got cured with TCM, well asthma can cured itself and you can't say that it was the TCM that did it, you'll need a study(and more than one!) comparing it to a placebo for that.
So long story short, some of them work, some of them don't. You should not trust them blindly and if you take other things, talk to your pharmacist about it.
Here's the thing, if "alternative medicine" worked, and was proven to work time-and-again in a controlled environment it would be science. Until you have something more than hearsay and circumstantial evidence on your side I will remain skeptical.
Yes, I have a reason to use one of my favorite image macros ever.jimahaff said:
well not every alternative medicine is bullshit just because it didn't go through clinical trials but a lot of stuff is just...
for example homeopathy is pure and utter bullshit, there is one substance that's supposed to help that is sugar harvested on a specific night in 87 that's supposed to help with headaches. And don't forget that the whole thing works on the basis that water a memory.
Now my mom keeps saying that some homeopathic stuff helped me with my travel sickness when i was a kid but it only helped me because she gave it to me and said it would help.
for example homeopathy is pure and utter bullshit, there is one substance that's supposed to help that is sugar harvested on a specific night in 87 that's supposed to help with headaches. And don't forget that the whole thing works on the basis that water a memory.
Now my mom keeps saying that some homeopathic stuff helped me with my travel sickness when i was a kid but it only helped me because she gave it to me and said it would help.
For years i had quite bad abdominal pains which i went to many a doctor for and had a few ultrasounds none of which showed up anything until mum heard about a woman out west who did alternative healing to cure ailments.. so we went out there and she basically did almost like firm massage around my stomach area and told me my stomach was resting on top of my liver and my liver had hardened by about 20% but the reason medicine didnt pick it up is because its not recognizable until it reaches about 80% so she continued the firm pressing around my stomach (which on a sidenote is very uncomfortable) but i havent had any problems in that area since. And the second problem she fixed was after i had an appendectomy for an acute case of appendicitis.. i had a lot of abcesses around my inner abs which had then healed against each other in my colon causing adhesions which was making my lower bowel quite uncomfortable so again she pushed around this time my lower bowel region and broke apart the adhesions in my colon and i havent had any problems since.Blablahb said:
I don't blindly trust all "modern" medicine to be miracle cures, but from my experience with alternative medicine, I'd rather go for modern medicine. My sister is really into that stuff, and I would never EVER trust something she recommends. If she knew someone who called themself a shaman or something, she'd probably rather go there than to a normal doctor.
TL;DR: Fuck that shit.
TL;DR: Fuck that shit.