Always On-line is Not a Deal-Breaker for Me.
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I think the main issue is that "as long as the servers work" bit. That shouldn't even be a factor in enjoying the game alone on single-player.tony2077 said:
They should have just marketed this as an MMO set in the Diablo universe akin to Warcraft -> World of Warcraft if that's what they wanted.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster/Ranorak said:
There's some good stuff in there, but I'd also like to address something else in this quote. "I just play something else for a moment". Well, it's great that you can do that now, but what happens when all of your games have the always online DRM and your internet goes down? What then?
Haven't read everything, so probably going to repeat some things others have said. (Also, been a while so Hi Escapist!!!)
I don't mind it at all. My computer is connected to the internet 100% of the time. If I lose internet for some odd reason (very rare), I go do other things (play a non-online game, or something else altogether).
Even if there are reasons it needs internet connection, I can't fault a company for trying to protect itself from theft. DRM, no matter how it's handled, will be an annoyance to players. But as long as the community "justifies" theft as being ok, game companies are going to have to take steps to protect their intellectual property. And I certainly prefer companies handling it themselves than trying to handle it with SOPA, PIPA and CISPA. I don't even want to see Pirate Bay shut down, as there are circumstances where I feel its appropriate to download a game (old/hard to find games from long-dead companies, if a developer can't/won't release in your area). Unfortunately, a large portion of the community believes "Well, I can't afford this game, but I should get to have it anyways" is a viable attitude as well (speaking to the outrageous sense of entitlement in our society).
But I daresay the number of people that can maintain regular internet connectivity when they want to play outnumbers those that don't.
And if nothing else, it is not as though this DRM came as a surprise. Be a savvy consumer. Check DRM policies before you buy the game. If you disagree, don't buy it. If there is a significant hit to sales, developers/publishers will try a new tactic. But at the same time, you need to understand that if there is *not* a significant hit to sales, you may just have to suck it up.
They can't please everyone, and you may have to accept that you're not in the majority and therefore your opinion and needs will not be catered to.
I don't mind it at all. My computer is connected to the internet 100% of the time. If I lose internet for some odd reason (very rare), I go do other things (play a non-online game, or something else altogether).
Even if there are reasons it needs internet connection, I can't fault a company for trying to protect itself from theft. DRM, no matter how it's handled, will be an annoyance to players. But as long as the community "justifies" theft as being ok, game companies are going to have to take steps to protect their intellectual property. And I certainly prefer companies handling it themselves than trying to handle it with SOPA, PIPA and CISPA. I don't even want to see Pirate Bay shut down, as there are circumstances where I feel its appropriate to download a game (old/hard to find games from long-dead companies, if a developer can't/won't release in your area). Unfortunately, a large portion of the community believes "Well, I can't afford this game, but I should get to have it anyways" is a viable attitude as well (speaking to the outrageous sense of entitlement in our society).
But I daresay the number of people that can maintain regular internet connectivity when they want to play outnumbers those that don't.
And if nothing else, it is not as though this DRM came as a surprise. Be a savvy consumer. Check DRM policies before you buy the game. If you disagree, don't buy it. If there is a significant hit to sales, developers/publishers will try a new tactic. But at the same time, you need to understand that if there is *not* a significant hit to sales, you may just have to suck it up.
They can't please everyone, and you may have to accept that you're not in the majority and therefore your opinion and needs will not be catered to.
Good for you, OP. I suppose you'd like a cookie or something.
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Breaking news: People who want to play D3 bad enough are willing to deal with always-on DRM, and people who have a problem with it aren't buying D3! More coverage as our story develops.
Coming up this hour: Trolly McDerpson still screaming that gamers are "entitled". Plus, Al Roker with the weather!
Back to you, Trolly.
Eh I can deal without D3, 1st releasing about half a game, 2nd at an higher then standard PC retail price, 3rd Attaching stupid always on DRM to it just makes it a bad deal.
And Yes you people may have internet 99% of the time, but You also can't play when their network go down, or their network are having problems, or their network needs to update.
imagine what would happen if something like sony or steam getting hacked to blizzard ;p
And Yes you people may have internet 99% of the time, but You also can't play when their network go down, or their network are having problems, or their network needs to update.
imagine what would happen if something like sony or steam getting hacked to blizzard ;p
It was only really a deal-breaker for me because I lived in a small rural town with shitty internet which would go out for an hour if somebody so much as breathed in the wrong direction. Now that I'm in a city I'm not totally opposed, but it's also not ideal and I try to avoid it where possible.
Okay, say I want to play Diablo 3, but I don't want to touch the multiplayer, don't want to chat with anyone over Battle.net, and don't care about the auction house.
Why should I be required to be connected to the Internet?
Honestly, how does an offline option hurt anyone? If people want the option, why can't they have it? It's not like it effects your game any. More options never hurt anyone.
Why should I be required to be connected to the Internet?
Honestly, how does an offline option hurt anyone? If people want the option, why can't they have it? It's not like it effects your game any. More options never hurt anyone.
So you know what you do? You change the system to encourage people to do the right thing. Yes, there will always be the bad apples who steal and crack everything because they just don't give a fuck, but the people sitting on the fence between piracy and purchase can be swayed. Know who does this extremely well? Valve. Reasonable prices, amazing sales, integrated social networking, very fast download speeds, great convenience of library management, and (more or less) guaranteed offline mode for everything that isn't completely multiplayer.Aeshi said:
You don't stop piracy by bolting everything to the floor, you beat it by offering a better product.
That's all well and good, but there are still decent sized chunks of America, even, that don't have the highspeed stable connection to play always-online games. I know I'm on a monthly allowance and even if it's a meg a minute that sixty megs an hour. I'd be able to play like three hours a month tops, and that would be even if it was possible.
I don't like that Blizzard has done it to a single-player franchise with a multiplayer component just because they're greedy bastards. Don't rebut this, you're not going to change my mind, ever.
I don't like that Blizzard has done it to a single-player franchise with a multiplayer component just because they're greedy bastards. Don't rebut this, you're not going to change my mind, ever.
I thought so too. Here's there stupid thing about the offline button. You have to sign online first to go offline. That's right. To make it so you don't need an internet connection to play, you have to sign on (I guess to show steam that all the games in your library are actually yours), then click the offline mode. If you aren't able to connect to the internet, you aren't able to connect with steam.w00tage said:
captcha: love-hate
I'm getting tired of pointing this out. If you people don't realize Captcha has now evolved, you deserve to get stepped on by the giant random phrase quoting robots when the uprising comes.