Am I a bad gamer?

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verdant monkai

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columbianbacon said:
Yes, you are a pox to all gaming, as should trade in your consoles and games, and use the money to donate to child's play. There is one reason, and one reason only the industry is failing, and you are the type of person responsible.

Either that, or you could just be someone who experiences games different than what is popular in some cases, who has a skill level not nessiarily standard (good or bad) and still plays the games despite it. So, yeah, you are normal. Huh.
Actually I would say this sort of person is a pox to all gaming, you know the sort of person who thinks its all about skill and being "hardcore", when the whole point of games are to entertain.
Anyway Are you me?
I agree with everything you just said, apart from the games with no story bit, usually I avoid them like plague but there are one or two acceptions like angry birds. I only like ME3 multiplayer cos I can play as mass effect aliens, and customise them. I dont understand people who play as humans.
No you are not a "bad gamer" there is no such thing (apart from kids 13 and under, playing anything above a 15 online, they are just annoying). No one can tell you how to enjoy a game, and there is no code you have to follow to be a gamer. My Grandad plays chess online, so technically he is a gamer.
 

Mike Laserbeam

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Bad gamer! Bad!

Seriously? No, OP, you're not a bad gamer (if such a thing existed in the first place)

Vault101 said:
4. cutscenes- I LIKE cutscenes, they are somthing to look forward too (not games that over do it though...*cough*yakuza*cough*) Saints row 2, Red dead redemption, Deus Ex..whatever you would call Mass effect...they all add somthing to the game (for me) and no..I dont get annoyed at them
I like cutscenes too! I think they can break up gameplay wonderfully, and I enjoy sitting back and watching stuff happen. Cutscenes were about the only thing I enjoyed about FFXIII for example, but maybe that was because it was like a 10 minute long break from the actual game...
 

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I don't know how one goes about deciding what is or isn't a good gamer, but you don't do anything wrong in my book. You don't do everything the same as me, but I can see where you're coming from. Everyone wants different things from games, nothing wrong with going against the grain :)
 

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Don't worry OP, you're not a "bad gamer" and I'm not just saying that because I share a lot of those points. There's just no such thing.

Unless the person in question is a bad person, in which case the gamer tag has very little to do with it.
 

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Vault101 said:
Not liking certain games doesn't make you a bad gamer, as much as not liking certain foods doesn't make you a bad eater of foods.
 

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Vault101 said:
The ways I sees it is, if you want a story watch a film or read a book, they have a lot better stories (so I am told).

If you prefer to break up the story with some shooty fun time or stabby fun time then have at it!

The only kind of bad gamer is like that bell end who said something along the line of "it's ok to be incredibly sexist towards the female in this TV show 'cos that's the fighting game scene is like" or the kind of person who abuses glitches to his or her advantage, like getting under maps etc.

As long as games don't take a massive shift over to your preferred style of gaming, then I am ok.

I am not the biggest fan of stories in games 'cos they usually come down to what I like to call the "Mario story". So many games have this story, which is basically "I have to save X", x could be a princess, the earth, a person, some data.

Just think of the games with that as the only story in the game, it is basically every AAA game. I am ok though if they pad out that simple story with sub plots and histories for all the people you meet, like MGS does.

It's just when you are playing Halo or resistance or something and it's "why are we doing this?" ... "to stop the aliens and save the world" is when I am bored.

I also like to play the game, not watch the game. I am not fond of sitting through a 20 minute cut scene or my hand being held so tight it gets pins and needles.
 

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Vault101 said:
5.. I enjoy games stories...somtimes more than the actual game itself (Dragon age) does that make be both a bad gamer AND a terrible judge at what makes a good story?
Specifically for Dragon Age, I find that combat system really kills the pace of the game for me. Liked it in Neverwinter Nights but ended up notching down the difficulty to the lowest just so I can steamroll the game faster for more story, but STILL ended getting bored by the pace.
 
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Kahunaburger said:
Glademaster said:
The only thing that has annoyed me about this gen is that while games normal settings have been getting easier there has been no way scale the difficulty up to an acceptable level for the person. I think we could call them difficulty settings. Sadly, they don't exist or are badly implemented and don't give the "challenge" of bygone days that some people(me among others) want.
Yeah - unfortunately it's a lot easier to make an easy game that feels balanced than it is to make a hard game that's actually balanced, so most devs will take the path of least resistance haha.

I'm all for easy settings in games, but IMO it makes a lot more sense to balance games around challenge, then provide options to turn the difficulty down, than it does to make easy games and hope they become challenging and balanced when some of the numbers are tweaked upwards. But, you know,
Well, at least I still have the odd thing like Super Meat Boy(well that and flash games like Sony) I'll just have to be content with that unless devs make more options in games to suit me.
 

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Glademaster said:
Kahunaburger said:
Glademaster said:
The only thing that has annoyed me about this gen is that while games normal settings have been getting easier there has been no way scale the difficulty up to an acceptable level for the person. I think we could call them difficulty settings. Sadly, they don't exist or are badly implemented and don't give the "challenge" of bygone days that some people(me among others) want.
Yeah - unfortunately it's a lot easier to make an easy game that feels balanced than it is to make a hard game that's actually balanced, so most devs will take the path of least resistance haha.

I'm all for easy settings in games, but IMO it makes a lot more sense to balance games around challenge, then provide options to turn the difficulty down, than it does to make easy games and hope they become challenging and balanced when some of the numbers are tweaked upwards. But, you know,
Well, at least I still have the odd thing like Super Meat Boy(well that and flash games like Sony) I'll just have to be content with that unless devs make more options in games to suit me.
I really like the way Edmund McMillen makes games - there's clearly a lot of effort put into making his games difficult, but fair. This is also a big reason why I'm on a roguelike kick right now - those games have to be balanced, because if they were stacked too much for or against you, you'd know.
 

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Your a "good gamer", you play games you like nothing wrong with that.

The only "bad gamers" are the ones who use the term "Bad Gamer".

Also I believe that there are some bad and maybe even horrible things going on with the gaming industry and some gaming community areas right now that may make some gamers feel like they are "inferior" or "bad" and its usually designed that way to make you feel like you need to "buy" a certain game to be in the cool kids club again, ignore it, play what you like because you like it, don't play something you should or are told you would like even if its supposed to be the best game in the world, go with you gut and buy games, don't get them sold to you.
 

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1. Do you play games?

2. Do you enjoy them?

You are a gamer... There is something for everyone in the game world, you just gotta find it and enjoy it!

I'm not that good at games sometimes due to poor hand eye coordination (my panic button pressing is annoying at times, and I constantly get controls wrong) but I still damn enjoy them, and will play them through as far as I physically can!

I don't like playing multiplayer because I am usually the dud who gets killed the most and gets in everyones way, and I can't hack people getting pissed at me for it... I can't help having an intensive job that doesn't allow me to game as much as i'd like! :|
 

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verdant monkai said:
columbianbacon said:
Yes, you are a pox to all gaming, as should trade in your consoles and games, and use the money to donate to child's play. There is one reason, and one reason only the industry is failing, and you are the type of person responsible.

Either that, or you could just be someone who experiences games different than what is popular in some cases, who has a skill level not nessiarily standard (good or bad) and still plays the games despite it. So, yeah, you are normal. Huh.
Actually I would say this sort of person is a pox to all gaming, you know the sort of person who thinks its all about skill and being "hardcore", when the whole point of games are to entertain.
Anyway Are you me?
I agree with everything you just said, apart from the games with no story bit, usually I avoid them like plague but there are one or two acceptions like angry birds. I only like ME3 multiplayer cos I can play as mass effect aliens, and customise them. I dont understand people who play as humans.
I know what you mean, except I tried playing as a turian and because of their body shape I found it awkward to aim/shoot..Im just wating untill I can unlock the drell (and being able to play as female is nice too)



SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Vault101 said:
1. actually Im not that bad at multiplayer (ME3 multiplayer, since thats the only one I play regualry)
No wonder, its easy as fuck. I'm pretty sure they tested the difficulty on monkeys, then decided it was not easy enough.
well mabye it is easy then...


but I prefer ME3 multiplayer...to sommthing ike battlefeild 3 is because..well its actually interesting, its in 3rd person (which is a preference of mine) and I have a better grasp of it overall..and I can play as an alien/female
 

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Vault101 said:
verdant monkai said:
columbianbacon said:
Yes, you are a pox to all gaming, as should trade in your consoles and games, and use the money to donate to child's play. There is one reason, and one reason only the industry is failing, and you are the type of person responsible.

Either that, or you could just be someone who experiences games different than what is popular in some cases, who has a skill level not nessiarily standard (good or bad) and still plays the games despite it. So, yeah, you are normal. Huh.
Actually I would say this sort of person is a pox to all gaming, you know the sort of person who thinks its all about skill and being "hardcore", when the whole point of games are to entertain.
Anyway Are you me?
I agree with everything you just said, apart from the games with no story bit, usually I avoid them like plague but there are one or two acceptions like angry birds. I only like ME3 multiplayer cos I can play as mass effect aliens, and customise them. I dont understand people who play as humans.
I know what you mean, except I tried playing as a turian and because of their body shape I found it awkward to aim/shoot..Im just wating untill I can unlock the drell (and being able to play as female is nice too)



SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Vault101 said:
1. actually Im not that bad at multiplayer (ME3 multiplayer, since thats the only one I play regualry)
No wonder, its easy as fuck. I'm pretty sure they tested the difficulty on monkeys, then decided it was not easy enough.
well mabye it is easy then...


but I prefer ME3 multiplayer...to sommthing ike battlefeild 3 is because..well its actually interesting, its in 3rd person (which is a preference of mine) and I have a better grasp of it overall..and I can play as an alien/female
Judging by your user name I take it you enjoyed Fallout 3? That game has a terrible story. I adore Fallout 3 but not for the story. That game provided me with a rich and detailed game world to go get lost in. I had such a good time with that game. I am very glad the game didn't play like it was on rails trying to tell me a story. The instant I stepped outside that vault, I waved goodbye to the story and went off to play (survive and fear for my life) in the sandbox world.

It seems as if story driven breeds linearity. I don't want linearity in my video games, do you?
 

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TorqueConverter said:
It seems as if story driven breeds linearity. I don't want linearity in my video games, do you?
ummm...yeah? why wouldnt I?

you talk like liniarity is a bad thing...why?

somtimes liniarity means the game has focus and the story comes off stronger...like the Mass effect games...are more linear that other RPG's but they are my absolut favorite

Skyrim on the other hands....can be as un-liniar as you wish..but the trade off that (personally) is that the whole thing is so unfocused I have no motivation to do anything..because the main story isnt all that interesting...its like im just an emptyspace in the game world to be filled by anything..rather than a "part" of it

I did enjoy fallout 3...I liked the story..I was emotionally attatched and I had a clear purpose as to why I was in the wasteland (not that I didnt screw around..there was plenty of that)

itd all down to personal taste
 

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Vault101 said:
TorqueConverter said:
It seems as if story driven breeds linearity. I don't want linearity in my video games, do you?
ummm...yeah? why wouldnt I?

you talk like liniarity is a bad thing...why?

somtimes liniarity means the game has focus and the story comes off stronger...like the Mass effect games...are more linear that other RPG's but they are my absolut favorite

Skyrim on the other hands....can be as un-liniar as you wish..but the trade off that (personally) is that the whole thing is so unfocused I have no motivation to do anything..because the main story isnt all that interesting...its like im just an emptyspace in the game world to be filled by anything..rather than a "part" of it

I did enjoy fallout 3...I liked the story..I was emotionally attatched and I had a clear purpose as to why I was in the wasteland (not that I didnt screw around..there was plenty of that)

itd all down to personal taste
You and I are as far apart as possible on this issue but I understand your desire for srory driven games. It's basic human empathy.

I dislike linearity as has a tenancy to turn a game world into a set piece for the story rather than a world. I'm trying to think of an analogy to communicate why is dislike set pieces.

Would you rather explore a real Star Ship Enterprise, or explore the set pieces they used to film the TV series, assuming both are within the realm of reality? I dislike the invisible walls of story telling set piece maps. I much prefer a a game world I can explore and become immersed into. While sandbox and story driven are not necessarily mutually exclusive, they often are when applied to a video game.
 

Vault101

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TorqueConverter said:
like I said...personal taste, thats why we have different genres of games

just because somthing is sandbox does not mean it cant have somthing resembling a story..regardless of what people say I thourght saints row 2 had a very ineresting story...screwing around in a sandbox world isnt enough by itself...the novelty has long worn off since I was a kid playing GTA the first time..

bioth screwing around and story missions compliemtn each other well

I like set peices..but I also understand they can be ovrused and arnt a substitue for actual gameplay
 

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If you are a bad gamer, fret not, because we're basically exactly alike. So if that makes us bad gamers, then who cares, right? I'm sure there's like a thousand of us "bad gamers" out there, so let's just keep doin' what we're doin', sound like a plan?
 

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Yes. You are a terrible person and the cause of all that is wrong with video games today. You are the type of person that is dragging the industry down into the casual pile of crap that it is today. You are holding games back from their true artistic potential. Games were infinitely better back in the 80's and 90's and if you do not realize that, there is no hope for you to ever be worth something as a person. You are the worst type of person imaginable. You are ruining games for true gamers like myself, and you should be ashamed of yourself. Ashamed. You should just stop playing games now before you ruin them any further.

There, does that make you feel any better? I mean, come on. Is your self worth that low that you care if people think you are a bad gamer or not? If you think that you are a bad gamer... Don't. Because you are not. The only people who would say you are or stuff like the paragraph above are not worth your time or consideration. Because they are joyless assholes fishing for attention. Screw 'em.
 

lacktheknack

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No, you're just a different KIND of gamer. There are more relaxed and story-driven games that cater to your tastes, try looking for them.

If you like adventure games, there's a huge library of classics that you would LOVE.