Am I justified in being angry about this?

CruxisCalling

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Ok Escapists of the world, am I being petty about this?

As a bit of background, my step father and I do not get along. At all. He is just a generally unkind man toward me and I typically try to keep my distance, as does he. It is well established that he and my mother have drastically different experiences in child raising. He has two children who are high-school dropouts, one of whom just had a baby with a teenage ex girlfriend. My step-father does not have a high view of teenagers and the choices they make, which makes sense given his experiences.

So today I'm at his and my mother's home to use their laundry room. I was also watching an Extra Life stream for my favorite Lets Player, who had a facecam on. As I walk away from the computer to get a drink, my stepfather walks by and looks at the screen. He then turns to me and says "what are you doing?" I told him I was watching a videogame commentator. He then asks if the LPer could see his viewers through their webcams too. I said no, the facecam is just for us to see him. He then physically blocked me from the computer and told me "Good. I would have had a serious problem otherwise. You don't want to know what your punishment will be if I find out you're letting guys on the internet see your face. You will not turn on our webcam for any reason" and walks away.

I admit, this comment and the authoritative tone it was spoken in really pissed me off.

Like I said, I understand that he has had issues with teens making stupid decisions, but that's not me. I'm 22. I'm a straight A student and am graduating college this year. I am a pre-law student and am preparing to study abroad in Japan before I go to law school. I am not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and have more faults than not, but I like to believe that I have a good head on my shoulders. My mother has also always made it clear to my stepfather that she trusts my judgment and wants me to make my own decisions.

So this reaction to me possibly talking to a man on the internet pisses me off. The facecam could be of a friend or a classmate for all my stepfather knows. And even if it's not, I am a grown woman and I have the sense of judgment to be able to make reasonably good decisions. To speak to me like a child and threaten to punish me without any clue of what is going on doesn't seem reasonable to me.

Am I justified in being angry about this? Or am I taking things too personally?
 

Elfgore

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Hell yeah you are!

Do you live under his roof? From the sound of it NOPE. Is he your actually parent? NOPE. If my soon to be step mom and possible soon to be step dad ever told me what I can and cannot do, and I'm in my twenties. They would receive the world's largest middle finger in their face.

Edit: I thought you were using your computer or laptop when he made the comment. If it's his computer then I could understand him getting angry.
 

Bellvedere

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Does seem like he spoke to you very disrespectfully, and was being unnecessarily difficult given that you weren't actually doing what he would have been angry about. That being said, you need to follow his rules in his house and when using his computer.

You don't need to be angry about it though. It seems from your post that you have just as much respect for him as he does for you, so don't let it get to you. When conflict would just create more problems than it solves, it's better to just appease people and not take it personally. You have pointed out his motivations for being distrustful and if you've been not so subtle about your feelings towards him it's also somewhat understandable that he'd want to show off a bit of authority (not necessarily mature or correct but understandable). Being angry is very self-rewarding though so if you want to be indulgent then go ahead but don't let it actually affect any relations you have with your step-father because you won't make him trust you by acting against him and if anything you'll be subjected to more attempts to exert authority.
 

Little Woodsman

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Whooo...I had to step away and take a breath after reading that. However, once I read Elfgore's reply and went to look at your OP again and realized it was his/your mom's computer, well I still think the guy is pretty awful (sounds to me like he has size issues or something) but I calmed down a bit...
So here are the points/my thoughts.

-People should be reasonable and respectful to each other.
-He does have the right (arguably even the responsibility) to say how the computer may be used.
-He should have been *much* *more* polite and reasonable when talking to you.
-You are an adult, and do not live in the same house as he does. The only 'punishment' he can actually give you would be forbidding you to enter their house/use their laundry facilities/use their computer. If what he was suggesting was that he would inflict actual physical violence/harm on you...that's a *whole* different story....
-You have *every* right to be pissed off. I would be beyond pissed off myself. However, ponder the words of the Master, "Holding on to anger is like taking poison and expecting your enemy to die."
-You might want to give some serious thought to doing your laundry somewhere else. If it was me, I'd find someplace else to do the laundry.
-If you cannot avoid having dealings with this individual in the future, keep firmly in mind another quote from the Master. "A waste is a terrible thing to mind."
-Keep in mind how any/all of this will affect your relationship with your mother.

So yes, I would say that you are justified in being angry, but the important thing is to look at how to move forward from here in a positive way.
 

Caiphus

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I'm usually one for diplomacy, so I don't know if I'd recommend getting super angry at him. It just isn't worth it. You sound like you don't live with him, so at least you aren't around him often.

He does sound like an unfriendly person. Perhaps take comfort that he is probably insecure at how his own children turned out compared to yourself.
You know. Even if it makes me a dick to think like that :p.

Pardon me, I'll answer the question properly: Yes, you are justified in being angry for being treated like a child when you don't sound like you have done anything to deserve it. I just don't think it's worth making a fuss.
 

krazykidd

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Why are people so afraid to speak their mind? You are 22, you look him straight in the eye , and tell him he has no say in what you do . You are an adult, and worst you are not his child. Yes you have the right to be pissed off, you also have the right to tell him you are pissed off. Although i have a feeling you are afraid of him , in which case if he so much as touches a hair on you head , i would call the authorities.

If you are an adult, act like an adult .
 

Blood Brain Barrier

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Christ, I'd just move out. I'd rather be homeless than live with that kind of shit. He's talking to you like you're 12, not 22. Yeah, he's trying to protect you, but he's also being a massive dick and you need to let that be known.
 

Abomination

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If it's his computer and his house he can make whatever rules he damn well pleases for whatever reasons he damn well pleases.

Your anger is, however, justifiable... but so are his actions.
 

Ilikemilkshake

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Blood Brain Barrier said:
Christ, I'd just move out. I'd rather be homeless than live with that kind of shit.
No offence but that's a pretty silly thing to say.

Having to deal with one person being an ass is not worse than having to live in perpetual poverty, lacking food, shelter, warmth, Being isolated from people, living with the threat of violence and rape, Being more prone to alcohol/drug abuse or even being forgotten or abused by your own government http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/south-carolina-capital-city-forces-its-homeless-out/

Anyway, yes you should probably be angry about that. You're an adult who can make decisions on your own, even if your webcam was on and the LPer could see you, who the hell cares, It's two consenting adults looking at each others faces.

That being said, if you do decide to confront him about it, being angry probably isn't going to help the situation and will likely only escalate tensions on both sides. Just try to be reasonable.
 

putowtin

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sounds like he doesn't know how to use the computer, and even though you explained how it worked he still needed to make his stand.

Sound's like you don't have to go over all that often, and though you should be made welcome it could be worse.
My friend Sid, her mum turned her back on her 4 children (one of whom was only 14 at the time) when she remarried.
 

Blood Brain Barrier

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Ilikemilkshake said:
Blood Brain Barrier said:
Christ, I'd just move out. I'd rather be homeless than live with that kind of shit.
No offence but that's a pretty silly thing to say.

Having to deal with one person being an ass is not worse than having to live in perpetual poverty, lacking food, shelter, warmth, Being isolated from people, living with the threat of violence and rape, Being more prone to alcohol/drug abuse or even being forgotten or abused by your own government http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/south-carolina-capital-city-forces-its-homeless-out/
I'm just saying what I'd rather do, doesn't have anything to do with you. I bet you've never been homeless before either.

And by the way, homeless and poverty are not the same thing. Mendicants are homeless but not necessarily impoverished. And I'd listen to Shakyamuni over Fox News (or any news).
 

HardkorSB

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CruxisCalling said:
"Good. I would have had a serious problem otherwise. You don't want to know what your punishment will be if I find out you're letting guys on the internet see your face. You will not turn on our webcam for any reason"
You should have said:
"Yes, I do want to know what my punishment will be".
He can't forbid you from seeing your mom and he can't hit you either (well, he can but he could face some legal punishment himself).
Since you're studying to become a lawyer, you need to be able to confront people like that. If not, you're going to lose a lot in court.

Blood Brain Barrier said:
Christ, I'd just move out. I'd rather be homeless than live with that kind of shit.
 

Varrdy

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In a word: Yes.

He is bang out of order to speak to you like that. It's your face, your webcam and your life - it's not like you live under his roof and have to follow his rules. Also, you're 22 not 12 - tell him to go fuck himself! It could be that he's one of those people who hear one or two horror stories on the news and assume that it's like that 100% of the time.

To threaten you with punishment makes it even worse and I would have lost it at that stage, demanding to know what (he thinks) gives him the right to say that.

If that's his attitude, I'd say just avoid and ignore him in future - you're off to Japan so that should help with that one. By all means keep in touch with your mother and I would also make it clear to him that he was out of order to order you around and threaten you like that. He needs to learn and if nobody calls him then he wont.
 

Ilikemilkshake

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Blood Brain Barrier said:
Ilikemilkshake said:
Blood Brain Barrier said:
Christ, I'd just move out. I'd rather be homeless than live with that kind of shit.
No offence but that's a pretty silly thing to say.

Having to deal with one person being an ass is not worse than having to live in perpetual poverty, lacking food, shelter, warmth, Being isolated from people, living with the threat of violence and rape, Being more prone to alcohol/drug abuse or even being forgotten or abused by your own government http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/28/south-carolina-capital-city-forces-its-homeless-out/
I'm just saying what I'd rather do, doesn't have anything to do with you. I bet you've never been homeless before either.

And by the way, homeless and poverty are not the same thing. Mendicants are homeless but not necessarily impoverished. And I'd listen to Shakyamuni over Fox News (or any news).
No, homelessness and poverty are not the same thing but there is an undeniable link. To pretend that monks who deliberately forgo possessions live a life comparable to the average homeless person is pretty disingenuous.

And It's funny you bring up Fox news, I didn't even realise my link was from there, it was just the first thing I came across. If you would dismiss it and any other sources of news that describe homeless people being mistreated (because Buddha says otherwise?.. I don't really follow your logic) then I'd say you're pretty ignorant.

A description of homelessness in Britain:
http://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2013/oct/29/homeless-sleep-out-charity
 

lacktheknack

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Well, it's his webcam, but that's literally the only point in his favor.

My initial response would have been "Well gee, thanks for the advanced warning!"

My second would be "Actually, I do want to know what the punishment would be." Seeing how you're 22, that sounds like it would be illegal. It's not like he can ground you for a month.
 

Gronk

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You can be angry if you want to. Now I don't know any of you, for all I know you could all have issues, but consider this: Even though he expessed himself in a really bad manner, and even though it may or may not have been his business, Is it possible that he did what he did, because he actually cares and doesn't want you to do something stupid?

Of course it's wrong to threaten people, especially if they are adults, but maybe he just doesn't know how to talk to you? Perhaps his goal is to make sure you don't expose yourself on the internet, but doesn't know how express that? I bet there are many people doing "stupid" stuff on the internet, who considered themselves being smart enough not to. I'm not saying you are, since i don't know you, But having good grades or going to Japan is not really a guarantee for anything.
 

teqrevisited

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Another older generation person who is scared by technology.

My advice is to let him live in ignorance whilst you ignore what he perceives to be authority at every turn. Challenging his opinion, even with valid, understandable points, will only make him confused and irrationally angry.