Am I Sexist?

[Starbird]

Is this the wrong address?thought this was a gaming website,not some "oh-my-life-is-so-terrible-am-i-sexist-what-is-this-planet-women-huh-wat-listen-to-my-sob-story-best-soap-oprea-ever" website (facebook and twitter)

No, but as a new person you probably missed the recent debates on sexism in gaming. People are somewhat touchy about the subject, so the OP is merely creating a discussion to see whether people consider his behaviour to be sexist or not.

Do remember that nobody is forced to click on a topic, nor is it mandatory to reply to a topic if it doesn't appeal to you. So if you don't like it, you can always ignore it.

Yeah. I'm not really bothered by it since even if it *is* slightly sexist, it's sexist in a way that I can't really help and isn't harmful in any meaningful way.

I just though it was interesting

I've never understood playing a female character for the purpose of eye-candy. We have porn for that! Also, if looking at a male character makes you feel awkward, you probably have some degree of repressed homosexuality.

But I think Sleekit got it right. Some people, like me, make a character as an avatar of themselves, while others just make characters so that they can play the game.

Playing a male character doesn't make me feel awkward, I just prefer to look at a female. However playing a female character in a romantic setting would...and maybe *that* is latently homophobic.

 

[Starbird]

I know that sex and sexuality are at least somewhat hardwired. I'm also aware that characters in a video game are characters in a videogame. Meaning that, unlike in real life, people have a lot of choice about what their character does.

Maybe it's that I just woke up, but I'm honestly not sure what your point here is. Mind breaking it down for me?

Haha sorry, was asleep. Now I've just woken up! Okay, what I mean is that yes, in real life people don't have much choice over orientation (usually) but in a game they do.

But if you narrow it down to purely the dictionary definition you miss out on a lot of semantic context and as I said, the meaning differs from dictionary to dictionary.

This is a problem that can be solved with the application of more words. Rephrase your original question so it becomes...hm. Actually, I'm not sure what your real question is. I'm going to guess it's, "Do I actively and maliciously engage in behaviors intended to oppress and minimalize women?"

Nah. Okay, I'll admit the title was a touch misleading, but "does the fact that I like to look at girls more than boys because I find girls sexier in videogames make me sexist? And if so am I sexist in any meaningful or harmful way?" lacks some of the punch.

I have a lot of problems with your definition, since I think sexism as a discriminatory practice needs to be viewed as separate from what could be called "natural discrimination" (males finding it easier to understand/identify with other males simply due to common experiential traits).

If we're arguing about the labels to apply to degrees of sexism, then I think we still need to be able to identify the baseline from which those degrees spring.

My baseline would be something along the lines of "A pattern of behaviour or conscious thought that leads to discriminatory practice against people on the sole basis of gender".

Is using the word 'guy' or 'boy' sexist?

I'm unaware of any situation in which "guy" means anything derogatory. "Boy" can be sexist, depending on its use (also racist, but never mind).

Why is 'girl' sexist but 'guy' isn't. Also, I've never heard 'boy' in any way that could be construed as sexist.

Because I find them both neutral, pleasantly casual when discussing gender. "Woman" just sounds too...cold.

Regardless, a girl is a child. A woman is an adult. I dislike the word "woman" on etymological grounds myself, but the fact remains, an adult who is referred to as a child is one who is not wrong to feel upset by it, because it's disrespectful.

Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree here. This is actually an interesting topic on it's own though.

You know, I think that this perspective is what annoys me most of all regarding militant feminists. I have tons of friends. I have female friends. I have male friends. I have male gay friends. I even had a bisexual girlfriend for a time. *All* of them liked to ogle nice examples of what they were attracted to.

And I'd argue that if you're talking about real people being ogled, there's no issue (or at least, not inherently). What you're talking about is a fake person deliberately crafted to be sexualized and to sell that sexuality to men. The game is making the statement that women aren't to be sold to as customers, they're to be used as selling points; and when enough games and movies and TV shows do this, we create a culture where a woman is judged more harshly and more exclusively for her appearance than a man is because we've been trained to view them as objects first and people second.

So...you think that porn is sexist? Or that using sexy billboards are sexist?
Men like pretty girls. Trying to make us prefer something else...I don't know if it's even possible. Should we be taught to value other things? Of course. But I don't know how successful it will be.

Which is why I say, in the context of this argument, you cannot only focus on mental processes, since for the most part they are entirely involuntary and even natural.

It's also entirely natural for human beings with impacted bowels to jam their fingers up their butts and start rooting around until the problem is solved, because that is an animal behavior. However, we've elevated ourselves above the level of mere animals through technology and, more importantly to this discussion, though society, which means we're beholden to the standards of our neighbors.

There is a difference between a dumb conscious decision that leads to action and a totally natural ingrained preference or response. I'd say that men are wired to like certain things in a woman much the same as a person is wired into their sexual orientation.

Trust me, I grew up in Southern Africa. If you want to see *real* discrimination, give that a try. First world problems and all that.

That's true, but at the same time, comparative standards are a dodge. You don't get to pick the worst possible example of a phenomenon and then tell people they can't judge you unless you're as bad as or worse than that.

I'm not. I'm trying to put it in perspective. Ogling a pretty girl in a video game isn't discrimination by any meaningful application of the word .

Judgements involve the making of a decision. Making a decision, requiring at least some cognition and conscious choice.

And you decided to buy drinks for pretty girls.

Yes, but the actual buying of the drink is an entirely neutral action. It's neither good or bad.

Yes, but should we? This is *really* something you think needs changing? We should try to somehow teach men to be equally attracted to all people?

I...really don't think what I said can be interpreted that way, but maybe I was unclear, so let me be more explicit.

Attraction is a physiological process, and acting upon it is normal. However, once you allow that instinct to become self-justifying, you've absconded your responsibility to use your reason and you're treating people differently based on appearance. The problem here isn't liking pretty people, but rather the decision to put appearance first--which if literally what's happening, since you're choosing whom to talk to at this party based on appearance--and personality second.

Wait...hang on. So you are saying that I should treat people I'm not attracted to the same as people I'm attracted to when pursuing them with romantic intent?

Perhaps I should have been clearer in my OP. I will choose male characters in RPGs that I know will involve some sort of romance. If there was no romance, I'd probably play a female character.

Uh, what RPG has mandatory romance? Because I can't think of a situation in which it's not your choice to make fucking happen.

Even being flirted with/approached by guys as a girl would make me a little uncomfortable.

 

[TheMajesticPearofHappiness]

Thanks guys,i will be sure to go the gaming threads next time. thanks for your help (no sarcasm)

 

[IMAGinES]

Sorry if this is a bit done to death, Starbird, but I thought I'd weigh in.

Basically, when I play games like this, I tend to choose female characters. I play female avatars in WoW and Diablo...

I won't lie - it does have something to do with the 'ogle' factor. In games where I have to actually RP (say...Mass Effect) my character will be male. However if it's just an action/ARPG/MMO game - yep, my avatar is going to be a gal.

Now, most people seem okay with this. Heck, I've heard the same sentiment from a few guys. However other players (a few guys, several females) have actually had a problem with this. To whit, they consider me playing a female character simply because I find it more aesthetically pleasing than a male character to be sexist, or offensive for some other reason.

I'm genuinely curious about this. Am I missing something?

Okay, look. From what I gather, you're a male. Generally, males find females attractive. That's what we do. If we didn't, well, the human race would have found some other way of reproducing or died off. So, sure, creating an avatar that you're going to enjoy looking at, I can understand that. I agree: Curves are nice!

(Yes, I bought Bayonetta. Oddly enough, my wife occasionally wonders why I haven't finished it yet. No, it just got too hard once I got to the afterlife.)

Now. Why would some folks have an objection to it? Well (bear in mind that this is coming from a guy with no sociology background whatsoever), women have kind of had it tough out of our side of the gender gap in the last few decades / centuries.

In an ideal world (yep, sweeping generalisation here folks, my apologies in advance), one's gender would be just one of the many factors that make up an interesting person. A nice / cute / pretty / hot girl gets your attention, you take a look, you appreciate the nice warm feeling it gives you, then you either proceed to get to know the rest of her - her interests, her intellect, her strength of will, her history, her decisions, her emotional life - or you move on.

But choosing a comely avatar on visual appeal alone - it feels like *staring*. A nice / cute / pretty / hot girl gets your attention, you take a look, you appreciate the nice warm feeling it gives you, but you don't do anything more and you don't move on - you just keep looking.

In a way, it tells that girl that, to you, the most (and potentially only) important thing about her is the way her appearance makes you feel. Sadly enough, there have been and are enough men (and women) out there who've applied that priority in such a way to have made life harder for a lot of women than it otherwise could have been. And that hurt those women.

Another contributing factor: In most modern RPG-style games I've played, gender is often given *less* than equal prominence with all the other factors that make character. Take Mass Effect. Your choice of gender has such a minimal effect on the progress of the game's story - basically, Shepard's choice of love interests, if you choose to have him/her pursue a romance - that choice of gender barely matters (heck, many maintain that Jennifer Hale's voice performance of Shepard is qualitatively superior to Mark Meer's).

So maybe look at your choices from that perspective a second: When character, the stuff that makes a person more than just comely curves / chiseled abs, is absent, you go for the curves. But when character - interests, intelligence, strength of will, history, decisions, loves, hates - is given more importance, you go for a male avatar.

Can you see how it could make a woman react with, "Oh, foxtrot foxtrot sierra. Not another creep..."?

 

[Angie7F]

It is just preference.

Or you could say you are sexist. Or you can say you are actually wanting to be a woman.

In the end, its just role playing.

 

[VeryOddGamer]

You're absolutely fine. It's not really sexist (at least in any kind of offensive way).

As for me, I play male characters almost always, especially in multiplayer games, since I see my character as an extension of myself, and it makes easier for people to guess my gender and removes that nasty pronoun issue when you're talking about a player playing a character of the opposite gender, do you call the player by the player's own gender or by the character's?

Yes, I do like talking about myself and why I think I'm right in everything, why do you ask?

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well when we split the hair right down the middle then yes you are, clearly you give preference based on gender, where is the equality! You monster!

 

[JimB]

Okay, what I mean is that yes, in real life people don't have much choice over orientation (usually) but in a game they do.

Before we begin, I just want to say that I have frequented many forums in my day, and I really do appreciate how this forum provides links to the post being quoted. It's very handy for someone who just woke up and can't remember the context of the conversation.

I should probably stop writing just after waking up.

Anyway, as to what you said, I think you're missing my point. My point is that "female" is not a personality trait. Nor is "straight," nor "gay," nor "African-American." They are not traits you have to put effort into portraying, so I don't understand how they can bar a person from being able to portray someone who fits into one or more of those categories.

Why is 'girl' sexist but 'guy' isn't?

Because so far as I know, "guy" is synonymous with the noun form of "male," applicable to anyone who has a wang. Unless you're English, I guess, and you're using the word to compare someone to Guy Fawkes.

Also, I've never heard 'boy' in any way that could be construed as sexist.

You've never heard a woman describe all men as boys in order to indicate we're all immature?

So...you think that porn is sexist?

I am respectfully refusing to be engaged on this topic just because I have never known a sex worker who isn't mentally or emotionally damaged in some glaringly obvious way and therefore do not trust myself to be fair. Hell, even Jenna Jameson, the queen of porn, said in her autobiography that she was sexually abused as a child.

Or that using sexy billboards are sexist?

I'm going to take a shot here in the dark here, so, no offense intended if I'm wrong:

Yes, and my reason for saying so is that I'm willing to bet you're referring only to sexy billboards depicting women; that you didn't specify you were talking about women because it's just assumed that of course a sexy billboard will be about female models, since that is a woman's role in advertising.

Should we be taught to value other things? Of course. But I don't know how successful it will be.

Doesn't matter to me. That self-improvement is difficult is no reason not to try.

I'd say that men are wired to like certain things in a woman much the same as a person is wired into their sexual orientation.

What "certain things" are those?

I'm not. I'm trying to put it in perspective.

I know, but the purpose of this perspective you offer is to minimize the offense being given by what you're doing. You're still trying to tell people their feelings are wrong because you're not as bad as some apartheid-supporting racist.

So you are saying that I should treat people I'm not attracted to the same as people I'm attracted to when pursuing them with romantic intent?

No, I'm not telling you what you should do. You can make up your own mind, and even if you can't, I'm not interested in playing Jiminy Cricket. I'm just saying that you're participating in a system that puts a woman's appearance primary. Do with that information whatever seems appropriate to you; I won't judge you for considering physical attraction to be an important component of a romantic relationship. You're the only person who knows your own criteria for enjoying someone's company.

Even being flirted with/approached by guys as a girl would make me a little uncomfortable.

That's...a tad homophobic. Again, I'm not judging--my stomach gets physically uncomfortable at the mere thought of men kissing (or indeed doing anything to one another with their mouths, but I have no such reaction to anything they do with any other parts of their bodies, so go figure)--but yeah, the idea of a man so much as approaching you with romantic intent makes you feel threatened? Yeah.

 

[Ledan]

No, you aren't sexist. Sexism is discrimination of a real person due to their gender. This is clearly not the case. I find it ridiculous that some people would claim that you are sexist, because you enjoy starring at pixelated women's butts. You can't objectify them, because they are already objects in the game.
I thought we all agreed that killing things in video games does not make you a murderer, why the hell would this (liking to ogle pixels that look feminine) be sexist? Against whom? Do people believe that what you do in games reflects exactly what you do in real life?

 

[TheDoctor455]

I don't think you're sexist, but that's just my humble opinion. You're a straight male, you like females, it makes sense you find a female form more pleasing than a males.

You're not against playing a male, you just don't want to stare at man butt all day. It's why I often avoid games where the main character is a skimpily dressed female because I don't want to look at lots of tits and ass. Course maybe I'm sexist too.

No. Just adhering to your sexual preference/orientation.

Me?

I flip a coin most of the time.

Unless there's a specific roleplaying reason involved, the gender of any of my characters in video-games or say... Dungeons and Dragons is entirely random. But then, I'm asexual, so its not as if I had a preference to begin with.

 

[Ledan]

I don't think so. To me, sexism has to include some form of discrimination.

Then you're changing the definition of the word, so there's no reason to ask anyone else what we think, since you're setting the rules of the game rather than asking if they apply to you.

prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/sexism . Oxford dictionary. You were already using the incorrect definition.

By your definition, being attracted to women basically = being sexist.

Sexism is about the roles members of a sex are expected to play. Roles require active participation: They require the person in question to do something. Sitting around while people outside of her control are attracted to her is not an active process, so it is not a role, and is therefore not a valid topic for sexism.

Firstly, does finding one ass more aesthetically pleasing than another count as objectification?

No. It's not until you do something with that preference that you present it as an object of your desire and thereby objectify it.

Objectyfing an object is wrong how? What he is talking about is not a real woman, just a mass of pixels labelled "female" that does not correlate with the real world definition of women in any meaningful way.

And if so, does objectification always mean discrimination?

Discrimination is defined as making distinctions in favor of or against a person based on categories to which that person belongs rather than according to individual merit, so, no, it is possible to objectify without discriminating.

Aye, a person. Not talking about real people here. The reasons why he chooses his avatar are not indicative of how he treats women irl.

I would find it quite awkward to roleplay a woman, especially a straight woman.

Then you are defining her not as a person with personal tastes and preferences and quirks of nature, but rather by her sex and sexual orientation. That's sexist.

She isn't a person. It is an avatar, a puppet he controls. Sexism deals directly with discrimination against people due to their gender, what we are discussing has no gender, no thoughts, no nothing. Not a woman or a man or even an animal.

 

[Ledan]

So what you're saying is someone's ability to comprehend a woman's personality is based on their ability to take cock.

No; that's what Starbird is saying. I'm just repeating it because you seem to think that I haven't noticed him saying it. I am in no way, shape, or form agreeing with or endorsing that point of view: Neither sex nor sexual orientation are personality traits, and treating them as if they are is at least on the borderlands of actually offending me, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here because I get the feeling Starbird is a nice guy who doesn't mean any harm. I think he's just operating from a place of ignorance, not malice.

Arguing from dictionary definitions alone is just as daft. Language evolves and words/terms carry around semantic meanings that are very contextual and often a lot more than the dictionary can really summarize.

Nevertheless, words are the only tools we have to make ourselves understood in this textual format we have, so it behooves us to use them as precisely as possible.

Just found this, which to me makes a lot more sense:

Your post cuts off here. Is there supposed to be, like, a link or something following this?

I think the assumption that "straight men will almost always find a pretty girl more attractive than a man" is pretty safe.

I don't. Straight men will find pretty women more sexually attractive than a man. That is not the only measure of attractiveness or aesthetic quality.

Incidentally, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but I note that you use the word "girl," not "women." Unless you're actually talking about children, that is a word to strenuously avoid in a discussion about sexism, because--whether it's your intent or not--it infantilizes the woman in question.

And defining a virtual character by my attraction/want for it is bad...how?

I don't actually remember saying it's bad, but since you ask, it's because you're contributing to a culture that judges women by their sexual characteristics and their ability to arouse men. I'm not saying you're putting women in chains or anything, but enough drops of water eventually become an ocean, you know?

Discrimination does not require an overt act.

Here I must strongly disagree with you.

Sorry, but you're just factually wrong. Discrimination is an entirely mental activity. It is a way of thinking. It is not limited to outward actions.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/discrimination?q=discrimination
the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
Same source, treatment: the manner in which someone behaves towards or deals with someone or something.
According to oxford, most widely regarded dictionary, again you are using the incorrect definition. Discrimination is not a mindset, it is how you treat people (an overt action) rather than how you think about people (not an overt action). I can think sexist thoughts all day, but if i do not act sexist towards anyone then I am not being sexist. If i think about murder all day but don't murder anyone, I am not a murderer.
I'm only repeatedly quoting you because you assume your definition is the "right one", without validating or double-checking your definitions.

However what we think doesn't matter, so long as we don't act on those thoughts, or rather that we don't act on those thoughts in a way that causes harm.

You didn't ask if it matters. You asked if it's discrimination. I can't tell if you're shifting the goalposts here or if you just misspoke, but again, I really don't get the feeling you're a bad guy, so you get the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not 'judging' as much as I'm simply acting on attraction.

When you make a choice, you're making a judgment. It might not be conscious, articulated judgment, but it is judgment all the same.

Then the word is meaningless, because it's not something we can avoid, change or even really criticize.

Humanity is nearly unique in the universe in that we are self-aware. We can change our natures through effort and training; through the application of will.

No, I'm saying that since the sexual traits are not mine, I won't be able to immerse myself/project myself onto it as easily.

Unless the character is going to go out and fuck, her sexual traits and orientation are irrelevant, and require no more definition than her personal taste in which dairy's milk she prefers to drink. The only reason for it to come up is if you make it, and if you won't even try to see her point of view because her sex life is that primary in your mind, then yeah. It's sexist.

It's not really about sex though, is it? Women tend towards certain personality traits, due to the culture they are raised in not inherent traits, and he does not feel that he can emulate those. Furthermore, it seems that when he RPs it is a very personal thing, putting himself right there in the world, so he wants his avatar at this time to reflect him.

I'll choose the character that I consider closest to me, or at least what I aspire to/identify with. And I identify more with a young, straight male than, say, a middle aged straight woman.

Do what you do. Not my business.

What I don't get is why the hell this makes me sexist.

Because you're not viewing women as collections of thoughts and beliefs and personality traits. You're viewing them first and foremost through the lens of their sexual activities. You are defining them not as people but as vaginas.

He isn't talking about women. He is talking about a token in a game that he controls. Gender isn't all about sex. There are other differences, variations of differences, between men and women. He sees this as a greater difference that what it may be, but he isn't focusing on how they fuck.

 

[JimB]

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/sexism . Oxford dictionary. You were already using the incorrect definition.

Random House Webster's College Dictionary is where I get mine from.

Objectyfing an object is wrong how? What he is talking about is not a real woman, just a mass of pixels labelled "female" that does not correlate with the real world definition of women in any meaningful way.

Because it's a symbol of women. Symbols have meaning; if they don't, then the entire purpose of characters and avatars and whatever else is madness dreamed up by a lunatic. The meaning of this symbol is, "This is what we, the game developers, expect women to look like, and we do because it's what you, the consumer, expect women to look like. Oh, sure, you might say something defensive about how what you expect video game characters to look like is no measurement of what you expect women in the real world to look like, but if our female characters didn't look this way, more of you than not would be making snide comments about how fugly they are; and women hear that, so they know that their appearances are being compared to that of impossible cartoon strippers and that their worth is being based on the strength of that comparison."

 

[JimB]

I'm only repeatedly quoting you because you assume your definition is the "right one," without validating or double-checking your definitions.

Let me know when you're done, so I can quit putting out responses sixty seconds after you've created a new post directed at me and just consolidate them all.

 

[Charli]

Straight female with mostly male blood elf WoW chracters.

Honestly it's not so weird, and I'd much rather stare at that, plus the blood elf female 'oof' and 'ouch' emotes sound vaguely sexual and I don't really see my character as 'me'. It makes me uncomfortable. Much rather listen to Cam Clarke getting hit on the noggin.

I'ts not sexist I believe. :S

It's just what you like.

 

[Warped_Ghost]

Never tell someone how to play their own RPG experience. (giving them hints is fine)

 

[bluepilot]

Nah, I often find that the female characters have better costumes, better hairstyles, and are just generally more fun to look at than their male counterparts.

Am I playing games or dress up?....hmm...

Finding women more pleasing to look at does not make you sexist, it just makes you straight and male...or female and getting confused *cough*

 

[Ledan]

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/sexism . Oxford dictionary. You were already using the incorrect definition.

Random House Webster's College Dictionary is where I get mine from.

Could you provide their definition? Having problems finding it online.
This does lead to the conclusion however that words are not set in stone defined, and that you shouldn't call people out for having a different definition of a word. You can't assume everyone uses your source.

Objectyfing an object is wrong how? What he is talking about is not a real woman, just a mass of pixels labelled "female" that does not correlate with the real world definition of women in any meaningful way.

Because it's a symbol of women. Symbols have meaning; if they don't, then the entire purpose of characters and avatars and whatever else is madness dreamed up by a lunatic. The meaning of this symbol is, "This is what we, the game developers, expect women to look like, and we do because it's what you, the consumer, expect women to look like. Oh, sure, you might say something defensive about how what you expect video game characters to look like is no measurement of what you expect women in the real world to look like, but if our female characters didn't look this way, more of you than not would be making snide comments about how fugly they are; and women hear that, so they know that their appearances are being compared to that of impossible cartoon strippers and that their worth is being based on the strength of that comparison."

Only shallow men would compare video game women to real women, aesthetically. I would like to draw a comparison to the publicly available fantasized version of men by women, eg. Jacob, Edward, Bieber, %0 shades of grey, etc. I personally don't know any men that feel that we are being judged in comparison to these men, nor do i think women expect us to be like them. Drawing from that, I would be surprised if women feel that their worth is being based on a comparison with video game women. If they do, then there is something wrong in our culture(or perhaps in the female half) where women aren't being told to an equal extent as men that media representations of them are not qualitative of how they are expected to be. I prefer to let everyone have their fantasies, and we can all agree to treat each other with equal treatment in real life.

("Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"- Sigmund Freud.
An inherent quality of symbols is that there are a large variation of meaning you can draw from them. Arguing about symbols is eventually pointless, because we will draw different meanings and conclusions from them.)

EDIT:

I'm only repeatedly quoting you because you assume your definition is the "right one," without validating or double-checking your definitions.

Let me know when you're done, so I can quit putting out responses sixty seconds after you've created a new post directed at me and just consolidate them all.

All done . Only further point would be that the definition of girl can only change if we use it with a different meaning. That way both 'guy' and 'girl' will have a much more similar meaning. Or we can try and figure out another colloquial word for a woman, but that's a lot harder to do.

 

[Andy of Comix Inc]

I don't think anyone who doesn't want to be sexist and is trying to do whatever they can to not be sexist can be a sexist. Well, maybe you can, but you seem genuinely ashamed of yourself for even doing one thing that gives you maybe a sexist vibe while doing it, so you can't be a bad person.

It's not sexist to prefer looking at women in games, that'd be dumb. If there was something beyond that - if you admitted that you saw the women as nothing but pieces of meat or something vile like that - then, yes. I'd be worried. But like I mentioned, you seem to be interesting in not being a sexist and if someone genuinely told you it was a sexist thing I feel like you'd do as much as you can to stop. (That is to say, someone with some semblance of authority on the issue, like a psychologist or socialist or feminist or a woman.)

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

But if I was to play as a man, how would I get my game-and-fap-breaks?


I really don't have anything usefull to contribute to this thread, but this joke had to be made.
But you may use this post to insult me in any way you see fit.
You could:
1. Imply that I am secretly homosexual and confused about my sexuality.
2. Call me out on being sexist for not also fapping to male characters.
3. Insult my inteligence and call me a sexual deviant and pervert.

But please refrain from insulting my avatar, since I quite like it.

All of those things are true. But your avatar is stellar!

There's no problem here. You like the female form? Fair enough. You would rather play as a man if there is romance involved? Also completely fair.

I can see a difference between your bog-standard questing and romance and how you might be projecting yourself onto the avatar differently for each thing.

Ignore the hyper-sensitivity...this matters so little.