Am I supposed to feel bad?

[Racecarlock]

I have killed 62352 people in GTA IV alone and counting. What do you think? The only reason I go for good runs on fallout 3 is so that no one aside from creatures and raiders and mercenaries attacks me. Also I wanted clean drinking water, but it gave me a photo montage. Hooray.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

Depends, really. I have issues being evil in some cases in games. For example, the evil ending to Jade Empire,

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Or killing Mission in KOTOR

were both hard for me. However, the Dark Side ending to the Sandral-Matale feud was so hilariously over the top, I actually did laugh. Also, being Renegade is not much of an issue...until the end of Mass Effect 2.

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I destroy the Collector base every time...because Tali gets upset when I consider saving it. I am whipped.

GTA/Saint's row, though? That's another story. Those aren't characters, so I have no problem running over people in my sports car.

 

[IamQ]

When it comes to killing people, I am completely neutral, but I can't for the life of me, act bad towards most people in dialogue options.

 

[Brandon237]

Roy Philips made me so angry I used the console commands... I spawned an army of ghoul-hating robots... He REALLY pissed me off.

Normally I play super good in games, in ME I would rack up some renegade, but that is a whole different story to good and evil, that is methods, not intent, so there is your answer... I think.

Captcha: nsforch iso-Amyl... that sounds AWESOME!

 

[Vault101]

I just cant do it, and Id argue ALOT of the time it doesnt make sense..and usually its only evil for the sake of being evil (like fallout 3 or mass effect)

there ARE exceptions however, like in infamous or Fallout NV...at least your being bad for a reason more or less

It doesn't surprise me with Fallout 3. I just finished an evil run and it just doesn't fit with the story, or even the general atmosphere. In New Vegas it's more a grey area. I enjoyed playing bad guy in ME, Infamous, but in Fallout 3 it's weird.

I agree, thats one of fallout 3's weaknesses, its ridgid black and white morality systm, its fine when your good (its actually pretty compelling IMO) but when your bad....well theres no reason, your just a phsychopath

thats the good thing with NV...ASIDE from the obvious (leagion vs NCR) theres all kind of stuff in-between, YOU decide whats wrong and right...

ME is a little different I guess, sure you have a reason.....but it still feels kind of arbitrary as things generally turn out better if your paragon, and theres no reason you CANT be paragon

 

[Rhade Adama]

If the game's story and character quality are high enough I can't bring myself to play the bad guy (I do actually feel bad... or like an ass). I can't bring myself to play the "bad" side of Infamous, Mass Effect, and other games like that.

 

[Jandau]

I do feel bad when I do bad things in games. Or to be more specific, I feel bad if I'm given a choice and I pick the evil option. If no choice is given, my tolerance is much higher. But assuming there's a degree of freedom presented to me, I'll pick the good option every time, to the extent that I have to force myself to do "evil" playthroughs of games.

 

[Rossmallo]

Oh god, I am the biggest moral git you will EVER see in gaming.

I'm serious. 4 playthroughs of Prototype, and I can't think of a time I've went on a rampage apart from in zombie territory, and I've only consumed ONE non WoE civillian, and that was by accident.

I am currently considering a consume-minimum-amount-of-Marines run, saving all my ire for Blackwatch, who SO friggin' deserve it.

 

[electric_warrior]

I feel bad even talking to ghouls in an unkind way in the Fallout games, so murdering people in cold blood is out of the question for me in most instances.

 

[Macgyvercas]

I very rarely play the 'bad guy' in games like inFamous, Fable, Fallout or The Elder Scrolls.

It's very hard for me to break my hardwired 'be a good guy' attitude.

The only one I have no problem with is playing a renegade in Mass Effect, mostly because renegade Shepard is still a good guy, but his methods are just ethically questionable.

So, what? Lawful Good verus Chaotic Good in that situation?

 

[Michael Hirst]

The problem lies within karma systems themselves. Instead of a balance of good vs evil you're forced more often than not to choose the extreme of Ghandi or Hitler. Really karma systems don't work on that level because unless there's a really big gameplay benefit of choosing evil there's not much point overall.

A good choice system is one that really tackles your own nature. Extra Credits covered this in an episode using the Geth example in Mass Effect 2, the only thing that ruined that moment was highlighting one option as "Paragon" and the other as "Renegade" Even though both were ultimately cruel actions.

With a Karma system you're supposed to ask questions about human nature and make people feel conflicted between 2 opposite actions both of which have good and bad implications. As it stands most games just say "YOU'RE A SAVIOUR YOU'LL GET THE HAPPY ENDING" or "YOU'RE AN EVIL B*****D AND EVERYTHING IN YOUR LIFE WILL GO WRONG"

 

[oreopizza47]

Personally, I've never had an issue with the whole moral choice dealio. I'm not so much hardwired to be a good guy, as I am to be a Trophy whore. Oh well, c'est la vie. So if there's Trophies to be had from an evil playthrough, I'm going to do an evil playthrough. I may find a few of the choices within it to be a little harsh, something I'd rather not do if it was real life, but then I remember it's a game. Same with the good side, some things are just too sickly-sweet. But that's just how it goes. It doesn't really mean that much to me. That said, I like moral choice games, because they give me excuses to play good games a second time, and a reason to drop bad games where they don't fit in.

 

[mrF00bar]

Its a game, and therefore has no effect on me with way. I had no problem with murdering the civilians in MW2 No Russian mission but I guess that's just me.