Yeah, The Witcher does not use GFWL, thankfully. Games for Windows (without the Live part...way to make it confusing) is just a sort of half-assed certification that means it'll run on certain versions of Windows and supports at least a certain minimum number of things they require. And The Witcher does seem to go on sale on Steam a bunch, too. It was $6 in the mid-summer sale, which was the first time I saw it go that low. Before that it was usually ~$13, but I assume it'll generally be $6 in the big sales from now on, since the regular price was dropped, too. If they don't put it on sale soon to promote the sequel, I'd be really surprised if you can't find it in the holiday sale. Great game, by the way, and hooray for the Director's Cut finally being a legitimate US release with all the bonus material and none of the censoring.FlashHero said:Oh so its like the pc/dvd logo then...well i was gonna jump on it but according to various people i know steam usually does a sale for $6 as well on black Friday or Christmas time and i might as well wait for that since it features the directors cut and i already use steam alot. And if not i will just get it for Christmas for $20 bucks anyway.LTK_70 said:Almost every PC game has that on the box, it doesn't mean that it uses GFWL. Hell, that service probably didn't even exist when the Witcher was released!FlashHero said:The box art says games for windows on it..and i dont want GFWL installed at all...Which is a shame since i want the The Witcher badly.