I have been receiving 18+ games ever since the start of my gaming life. Resident Evil on the PS1 was my first 18+ I think.
An 8-year old wants Gears of War 2
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Big sign in there room says "They're selected because of size, you aren't a freak"Amnestic said:
I have been playing "mature" games since I was about 10. I am only partial mentally unstable, but it was movies, not games that did that.
While I've never played silent hill, at that age I was loving the N64 and Golden Eye, and shortly thereafter, Halo. I turned out fine, but I still think the overdose of gore and ultraviolence isn't what such a young age should be playing. Me? Fine. You? Fine. Whiny, eight year old brat? No, not by a long shot.Amnestic said:
Actually, I've seen a lot of examples of little children wanting games that they have never even heard of. I was at Gamestop once a few days after Christmas to spend some gift cards. Unfortunately, everyone else in town was too, but that isn't the point. I saw a kid who couldn't be older than about seven or eight running up to random games yelling "MOMMY! MOMMY! THIS LOOKS FUN!" Seriously, he did that to pretty much EVERY game he saw. He even kept grabbing 360 games even after his mom said "No, you can't get that, you don't have an Xbox." Just saying, there is a chance that the kid in the story was a hyperactive little crotch-dropping like the one I saw, and just decided that he wanted Gears of War 2 on a complete impulse.Avida said:
I think another issue here is that a disturbing number of parents aren't even aware that games have ratings. They just assume that games are for kids. Take a story I have, and tell pretty often to prove my point on the subject. I was at Wal-Mart to pick up some things and decided to browse the electronics while I was there. There was a kid who looked about eight or so and he wanted God of War. So his mom called the employee over and pointed to God of War. The employee said "Er...is this for him, ma'am? Because I'd really suggest not getting it for him..." Her son started pitching a fit and she said "Oh just get it already" in a very stuck-up 'I'm better than you because you work at Wal-Mart and I have a severe case of Richbitchitis' tone. He said "It is rated M, for 17 and up. It is like the game version of the R rating." She said "Oh bullshit. It is just a video game. It is a toy for children, it can't be THAT bad." He said "Well, I have it and it contains a lot of violence and gore, as well as sex and nudity." She says "I don't believe you. It is a VIDEO GAME! They wouldn't put that stuff in it, it is supposed to be for kids. Now give me the goddamn game or I'm going to get a manager." The employee said "Ma'am, it is called 'God of War,' do you honestly think it is for children?" At which point she proceeded to cuss him out and demanded a manager. I left at this point because if I had to listen to this condescending, stuck-up, ignorant ***** and her crying banshee of a child any longer I would have had the urge to find a box cutter and end my life.
My point is that many parents still have this idea that video game = child's toy, and that there isn't even a rating system. That, combined with their disinterest in looking at what their child wants and giving in to "pester power" is ultimately part of the reason why the anti-game groups hold such power. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that many of the anti-game activists were like this woman: Didn't care or pay attention to what they were buying their child, then looks to where they can point fingers after they walk in on Little Timmy banging hookers in his truck in GTA. God forbid that parents take the blame and start to actually fucking parent their children instead of demanding the government slam down the ban hammer.
I played GTAIII, when I was 7, a lot, and it didn't do me any harm. 1 second please.
*Shoots a hostage in the Leg* [sup] Shut up! I'm trying to type here [/sup]
Anyway, I use to play GTAIII, a lot when I was younger and I'm fine
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Anyway, I use to play GTAIII, a lot when I was younger and I'm fine
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You know what solves pester power? Hit to the head. I was spanked as a child. Not very often- if you do it properly (as a last resort) you don't need to do it more then once or twice. Now i'm not saying necessarily "violence is the solution", but it seems to me parents aren't the masters of their households anymore. I'm 21, and this is my FATHER'S house. I'm not 'renting', i'm 'being allowed to live here with a fee'.
Kids don't respect their parents anymore, because parents don't seem to make their kids respect them. This (and lack of being informed) is the fundamental root of the problem.
As for informing parents, I remember when theaters had posters with the ratings and their explainations up. Put up colorful posters with each of the ESRB rating and their explainations and contents, make anyone who vends videogames have this poster up. This covers the venders ass, and the states ass, and the videogame companies ass. When it's right in your face, no one can be blamed but you.
PS: I played GTA2 when I was younger, I shot a cop, I said "Woo! I shot a pig!" and my father, who overheard me, said "Hey, I don't want you talking like that." I responded with a sullen 'okay' and i've yet to go on a cop killing spree. Parenting. So subtle, so effective.
Kids don't respect their parents anymore, because parents don't seem to make their kids respect them. This (and lack of being informed) is the fundamental root of the problem.
As for informing parents, I remember when theaters had posters with the ratings and their explainations up. Put up colorful posters with each of the ESRB rating and their explainations and contents, make anyone who vends videogames have this poster up. This covers the venders ass, and the states ass, and the videogame companies ass. When it's right in your face, no one can be blamed but you.
PS: I played GTA2 when I was younger, I shot a cop, I said "Woo! I shot a pig!" and my father, who overheard me, said "Hey, I don't want you talking like that." I responded with a sullen 'okay' and i've yet to go on a cop killing spree. Parenting. So subtle, so effective.
Because nothing says "I love you" like the constant understanding that you could be physically accosted should you violate the rules.TsunamiWombat said:
Know what the problem is? We DO this in America and parents still don't get it. Pretty much every game store I've been to has a big stand on the counter showing the ESRB ratings. You CAN'T FUCKING MISS IT! It is RIGHT THERE when you go to pay, and they normally have smaller posters posted around the store. Hell, some even post a poster of the ESRB ratings on the goddamn door. All stores that sell games have something showing the ESRB ratings. It isn't that there is a lack of effort, it is that many parents don't pay attention and still just assume that all games are for kids.TsunamiWombat said:
Personally, I think the ESRB needs to start running ads in magazines and on TV. Maybe then parents will pay attention a bit more, but I don't know. A while back they teamed up with Penny Arcade and made some pretty nice ads promoting the ESRB...The problem is that they only posted them in gaming magazines. Talk about preaching to the choir...
People like that kid's mum are a problem for gamers in two ways.
Not only do they give news networks stories on how video games are evil, teach you how to kill people and put you in the mindset of a mass murderer, but also, the kid will become a retard on the internet, because he feels that he can do whatever he likes because of his anonymity - Just another squeaky voiced, trash-talking, pre-pubescent kid who is a hindrance and an annoyance for everybody else.
I tried playing my brother's copy of GTA Vice City when I was around nine. After that I've played lots of other shooters and the like, and I've turned out fine. *Loads Kalashnikov, chambers round and goes on mass killing spree*
I guess it's just how well the person can distinguish between real life and video games.
I heard something about the news on how one teen ran away from home and is still missing because his father took away his 360. That's what gives gamers a bad name.
Not only do they give news networks stories on how video games are evil, teach you how to kill people and put you in the mindset of a mass murderer, but also, the kid will become a retard on the internet, because he feels that he can do whatever he likes because of his anonymity - Just another squeaky voiced, trash-talking, pre-pubescent kid who is a hindrance and an annoyance for everybody else.
I tried playing my brother's copy of GTA Vice City when I was around nine. After that I've played lots of other shooters and the like, and I've turned out fine. *Loads Kalashnikov, chambers round and goes on mass killing spree*
I guess it's just how well the person can distinguish between real life and video games.
I heard something about the news on how one teen ran away from home and is still missing because his father took away his 360. That's what gives gamers a bad name.
His mom probably doesn't know about the rating system(a few parents I know didn't know about it)Bob_F_It post=9.76413.901977 said:
He's also trying to get his mom to buy it because of the reputation it has and he's trying to be cool
Well, I am 14 and my favorite game is Fallout 3.... Does this make me a bad child, or are you saying my parents are doing a good job? Because honestly I know its just a game, but if the mere fact I play it is bad well I guess I'm at fault. Because I did bug my dad to get, but he also checked the rating before i even got a chance.
But they COULD be physically accosted for violating the rules. You think police don't rough up resisting perps? Submission holds HURT for a reason. A little flick now prevents an armlock and being face down in the ground 12 years later because you tried to hijack a car. And i'm not saying just haul off and hit someone- there should be a build up. There should be a "If you keep pushing me you won't like what happens" moment, and when they push too far they get rectified. Honestly people need to stop being such whiny bitches, I got spanked 2 or 3 times tops when I was younger and it never happened again after elementary school.Imitation Saccharin said:
Do the posters have explainations of the ratings? "Mature" can mean many different things. They need to explicitly state "An M rate game contains extreme and -REALISTIC- violence and gore and/or suggestive themes, sex, and scantily clad women with unrealistic boobies".Raven28256 said:
With THOSE WORDS exactly. Also teaming up with Penny Arcade for new ad's/posters couldn't hurt.