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Rose Reviews: Baptism of Fire Part 2

Okay, now for the novel spoilers/synopsis.

Baptism of Fire opens a before the end of the last novel, and introduces Milva. It turns out that, while he was recovering from his broken leg, Geralt met Milva. She is a human ranger - archer type - who serves as a guide for the Squirrels who come to the Dryad forest for healing. Geralt asked her to seek info on Ciri and Yennifer. She learned nothing about Yen, but she heard about "fake Ciri" in Nilfgaard. Except that, obviously, Milva has no idea that "fake Ciri" is a fake.

So, as noted in the last book, Dandelion shows up and decides to go with Geralt to save Ciri. Milva, after some internal conflict, decides to join them. Her reasons are... complex. Also, she has an awesome bow. However, since they're ahead of her, she needs to catch up.

Meanwhile, Geralt and Dandelion bump into a hawker. They're wearing elf clothes (given to them by the Dryads) and the Hawkers attempt to sell to them. Then, the Hawkers attempt to sell a Man in a Coffin to Nilfgaard, but get murdered for their trouble. The Nilfgaardian troops plan to do the same to Geralt and Dandelion when Milva arrows several of them to death and Geralt takes care of the rest.

The man in the box turns out to be Cahir!!!

Don't remember Cahir? He's the "black knight with a winged helm" that Ciri had nightmares about - until she kicked his ass last book. Turns out he's determined to help Geralt find Ciri. For... some reason? Geralt tells him to fuck off and leaves with Dandelion and Milva.

Milva tries to convince Geralt that going south is suicide, but Geralt could not give fewer shits, so onward.

Not long thereafter, they bump into Zoltan and half a dozen dwarves leading some human refugees (women and children) away from another battlefield. Having south cut off, they head east to try to swing around the battlefront.

This leads to them running parallel to the Yarga river rather than crossing it. Geralt is unhappy, but there isn't much else to do.

The party grows then they come across an ancient graveyard and find an Alchemist hiding in the ruins. He's been making Moonshine, but since the Nilfgaard invasion has blocked any attempt of his to profit on said moonshine, he offers it to the party and then joins the group. He has medical training and smells of Cinnamon. Oh, and his name is Regis.

- there is other stuff going on during all this, but I'll get back to it - I'm following this plotline for the moment -

Shortly thereafter, the party stumbles across a refugee camp. This unexpected development has three results:
A) the women traveling with Zoltan find their husbands alive and well, to the surprise of all
B) the townsfolk think there's a Vampire on the loose because of several mutilated corpses
C) A priest of Kreve is planning to burn a retarded girl as a "witch". Because Kreve = assholes.

Geralt, Dandelion, Milva, and Zoltan attempt to stop the witch-burning, but the priest comes up with the absolutely absurd "if you can pick up a flaming coal then she's not a witch" because... that makes any kind of sense. Usually doing something supernatural is a sign that someone IS a with, not that they're innocent. But whatever - Sapkowski is taking a shot at the Christian church of the Middle Ages and I'm not about to disagree with his opinions on that matter. As a pagan, I'm firmly in the Meletele camp myself. Go Triple Goddess!

Ahem. Anyway, when ever Geralt can't think of a way to refute Stupid and Insane Logic (TM), Regis walks up and takes care of it - by picking up the flaming coal and casually handing it to the priest, who can't touch it because it's fucking on fire. This secures the girl's release (and the priest's humiliation) - and, before any benefit from this moment of awesome can be savored, Nilfgaard attacks. Talk about bad timing!

Everyone gets separated, except for Geralt and Dandelion who end up under a cart. After the battle, they learn that the Temerian army was there too - that wasn't just an attack, it was a full battle. Geralt and Dandelion attempt to make contact, but the Temerians suspect them of being spies and haul them off to the Temerian camp. There, Dandelion is recognized and released - and then Geralt is recognized (by a bitter Cintran) and arrested. They're to hang at dawn, because the Cintria commander is an asshole.

Fortunately for them, Regis shows up to save them. By making the guards fall asleep. And bring Geralt a weapon and disguises. Geralt and Dandelion make their escape, only to accidentally raise the alarm, only for Nilfgaard to show up and make that accidental raising of the alarm an army-saving stroke of good luck. Dandelion gets an arrow in the Ear (the ear LOBE, not the ear hole, thankfully to his fans) and, while he bleeds a lot, he is basically unharmed.

Geralt meets up with Milva and Cahir. Geralt tells Cahir to fuck off again, but Cahir calls Geralt on something - both he and Geralt have been dreaming of Ciri. Again, we'll get back to that in a moment.

Regis is also there - and Geralt asks him to leave. Why? Because he's a vampire. Regis... doesn't really care to leave, thanks all the same, so while he does turn invisible for Geralt's temper, he doesn't actually leave. This comes to a head over fish soup (Dandelion catches some small fish, Cahir catches a large fish, Milva starts the fire, and Regis spices the broth) when everyone but Geralt wants to let Regis and Cahir join the party. Geralt relents albeit bitterly.

Now, I mentioned that other stuff has been going on. Several things fall into that category - the most relevant of which at this point are Geralt (and Cahir)'s dreams.

Ciri has apparently reached a sort of trauma event horizon. She has repressed "Ciri" and become Falka - a girl who enjoys killing but at the same time is childlike. She lashes out at her lover, Mistle, and then feels bad about it later and apologizes. She drops her cotton candy while killing a man, then cries over it and Mistle promises to buy her a new one, just like a child with a dropped ice cream cone. And, while robbing a Baroness, she pulls RANK as a Princess, saying that they should bow to her and that she can speak to them however she likes.

Falka has trouble even remembering "Ciri" at this point. This is actually a common reaction to trauma - the "self" retreats into hiding while another "self" takes over and absorbs all the "bad" elements. It isn't multiple personalities or anything so banal - it's not even really a dissociative disorder. She is simply hiding from the fact that she is murdering people. She hides herself so that she doesn't have to be horrified - she acts like Falka so she can pretend that she's enjoying it.

Ciri is a fucking amazing character. I love every minute of reading her and wish she was in the novel more.

Now, here's where things get even more interesting. During another side plot going on (that I'll get to later) we learn about Falka. She's been mentioned a LOT throughout the series, as a historical figure on par with Hitler. Finally, in this book, we learn the truth.

Falka was a Princess who was rejected by her father for not being a boy - for not being an heir. She led a rebellion in an attempt to change things so that women could rule without Kings. She won briefly - and then lost and was executed. And, for the crime of trying to make men and women equal in Temeria, Redania, and the far north, she is treated like the most evil person in all of history.

True, she was brutal. No more brutal than the Squirrels or the pogoms against non-humans. True, her rebels got out of hand and did awful things. No worse than Nilfgaard's soldiers.

Because she tried to make women equal, Falka is the most hated person who has ever lived.

**approving slow clap** Andrzej Sapkowski, I have rarely seen a better feminist novel than this one. Bravo.

No, seriously, I'm not kidding here. This is a wonderful example of how women striving for equality are portrayed as demons and crushed down. It is beautifully subversive. Furthermore, it makes a feminist point without detracting from the narrative - it doesn't say "look, she was perfect" - because she wasn't. She was a vicious dictator. But she's no different than any of a dozen male dictators who do the same thing and are considered "normal".

You know, I'm starting to think some of the game designers missed the subtly of Sapkowski's work. There is a LOT going on here.

Actually, come to think of it, here's another one my Spouse spotted yesterday. Back in Blood of Elves, Geralt showed Ciri that statue of the elven martyr with the roses. At the time, I thought he was showing Ciri that both sides were worthy of sympathy. I was wrong.
Geralt showed Ciri the statue of the Elven martyr, who died centuries ago, because the elves are still fighting for her. Ciri, if she joins up with Nilfgaard OR the North, could be a martyr like that if she fails to remain neutral. That statue could be Ciri's future. Geralt was saying "Ciri, if you choose a side, it doesn't just affect you - it will affect people who follow you for centuries to come. The only way to avoid that fate is to not take a side."

The thing is, until the war was going and the Emperor had his fake Ciri and all, we couldn't see that Ciri would be that powerful of an influence. But is has been proven that she is - men are already risking death for Ciri, and that's over a FAKE Ciri.

Right now, Ciri's solution is to not BE Ciri, but to instead be Falka - be the evil one that everyoen hates.

If you can't be a Princess, you can always be a Witch. And if you can't be a Witch, you can be a psychotic highway man.

Sorry, mixing my deconstructions. Ahem.

So anyway, Fish Soup.

Geralt, Dandelion, Milva, Regis, and Cahir travel along for a while. To help with Dandelion's discomfort around him, Regis explains that he doesn't require blood, blood is like alcohol, etc. He also notes that in his youth he was a "binge drinker" but - after being decapitated - he rethought his life and swore off the stuff. I feel like I should make a joke about AA meetings here....

He also points out that being bitten doesn't change one into a Vampire (exponential growth and all that). Which is interesting, but Blue Eyes established that one CAN be transformed... just not with a bite. So, one has to wonder how exactly they do it. In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the transformee must drink the Vampire's blood. In this universe, that would almost make sense - Geralt often makes Mutagens out of a powerful creature's blood (in the first game anyway). Perhaps the Vampire can introduce a mutagen that mutates the target into another higher vampire?

It's something to think about. Anyway...

Shortly thereafter they bump into Zoltan again. They continue on for a bit together until a new twist comes to light - Milva is pregnant, and has been pregnant this whole time. She wanted Regis to help her abort, but she's waited too long, so all that can be done is a full induced miscarriage, which will knock her on her ass for a week or more (not to mention carry a risk of death).

Geralt and Milva have a talk and Milva decides to keep the baby.

Meanwhile, they've reached Mt. Cabon, so Zoltan is leaving the party again with his dwarves and a new batch of refugees. Before he leaves, he gives Geralt his fancy Dwarf sword (with upgrade runes) to Geralt. Awww.

Since Geralt doesn't want to take pregnant Milva through the DEATH SWAMP, they decide to cross the Yaruga into Nilfgaard territory, scoot up river a bit, and then cross back to avoid the swamp. Good plan, except that they end up crossing into an active warzone. Whoopsie! They run from the Lyrian guerrilla army, get shot at by the Nilfgaardian army, and end up stuck up by a bridge - where a battle between the Lyrians and Nilfgaardians is taking place. Oh, and a kick from a horse (I think?) causes Milva to miscarry after all. So much for that decision.

So, Geralt says "oh fuck it" and heads up to rally the Lyrians and fight the Nilfgaardians. And he does so - spectacularly. With Cahir at his side and Dandelion... around there somewhere.

The battle ends in victory for the Lyrinas. And, we learn that Geralt just saved Queen Maeve of Lyria, who is leadin ghte guerrillas. She knights Geralt for his valor - Geralt of Rivia. Geralt takes a moment to appreciate the irony and --

End of Book.

But wait, you're saying - I skipped a whole other part of the book! True, I did, because it really is like another who book taking place alongside this one. So now over to THAT plotline.

Philippa arranges for a meeting - she calls up seven Sorceresses, one from Nilfgaard and several each from the Northern, Nilfgardian, and Neutral factions during the Thanedd Coup. Philippa has decided that the massacre that occurred there is proof that they need a non-political body to handle issues of magic to prevent senseless shit like that happening again. So, she proposes forming an organization --

Shelia de Tancerville suggests "Lodge of Sorceresses"

-- to manage things, not just in the north, but throughout the world. No matter what happens, they few shall manage things from behind the scenes.

She asks several of her chosen members to recruit a few others. She has plans for one extra seat, but she'd like them to fill the rest with anyone they choose. Two seats to the elves, and an extra seat to Nilfgaard.

The Nilfgaardian sorceress invites another, and they decide to use magic to make themselves beautiful like the northern Sorceress so that they don't look down on them. Also they want to dress as cleavagy as possible because, at Thanedd, it was shown that Northern Sorceress Fashion is "Boob Window that shows Nipples". I guess because, if you're 200 years old and still have a nice rack, you wanna show it off.

And before anyone says anything - Triss is in her mid 30s here, Yen is in her 90s, Philippa is at least a couple centuries old, and the elf chick is around 400. Two hundred is not an unreasonable average to guess.

Anyway, we next have said elf-chick recruiting another elven Sorceress for the seat. And, for her other seat... they decompress Yen! AH HA!! So that's where she disappeared to! One of the major mysteries of Times of Contempt is finally explained!

Also, I had no idea that Compression was a thing from the novels. Very nicely done, Witcher 2 - good call back.

Yen is, needless to say, fairly pissed, but she gets roped into the Lodge thing.

Next meeting, they all show up in person. We get this from the Nilfgaardian sorceresses, which is nice - as noted above, it establishes their fears and then their relief to be treated so nicely. In fact, the meeting starts very comradely and girl-powery, even if it does slide catty later on.

They discuss how to accomplish their "magic is the highest thing" goals and Philippa finally lets everyone in on her plans - to marry Ciri to the King (or Prince rather) of Kovir and create a Mageocracy. Why?

Because Ciri is the last living descendant of Lara down the female line. Lara was the last of her line among the elves - the last to carry the great power of the "Elder Blood" - and now Ciri has it. This means she has prophesy power (which we already knew about) and this is also why she could use Lara's portal in the tower - Ah ha! So that's why she wasn't scrambled. Nicely played.

That would all be pretty impressive until Triss figures something out - Ciri wasn't a "chance" inheritor of this gene. She was a eugenics project. They've been selectively breeding Ciri's ancestors since Lara to try to bring this gene back. And Yennifer was part of it. Yennifer, Ciri's mother figure.

Yennifer, who in Sword of Destiny was seeking any method of having a daughter, has genetically engineered a daughter, arranged for Geralt to be bound to said daughter, and made herself the only person Geralt would trust to train said daughter to use her overwhelming Elder Blood powers.

HOLY SHIT.

And I thought Philippa was an evil mastermind. Fuck me.

This makes me think that the Witcher 1 was originally supposed to feature Yennifer, not Triss. The Alvin plot makes SO MUCH SENSE for Yennifer. Triss, in this moment, is horrified by what Yennifer has done - and yet, Triss attempts to recreate the situation in the Witcher 1, albeit without genetic manipulation. I really do wonder if, originally, it was Yen who was there at the beginning of the script writing - and only later in the game's design, when they realized they wanted Yen to be kidnapped by the Hunt, did they change the story to include Triss instead.

Also, all of Triss's sex cards show a woman with dark brown or black hair, not red hair. When Triss is known for her red hair.

Triss in the Witcher 2 acts much more like the fun-loving Triss we see in the books, whereas the Triss we see in the first game acts like Yennifer (to the point where I thought she was an Expy).

Just a theory.

Anyway, back to the Lodge. With all this discussed (and the history of Lara's blood is what leads through Falka's backstory, hence my aside above) they take a snack break and Yennifer gets a little help escaping from a Nilfgaardian sorceress. Since this is the Sorceress who blinded Yen less than a decade ago, and since they hate each-other, no one will suspect that she helped Yen.

And that's where that storyline ends.

So, to sum up - Geralt just got Knighted, Milva just miscarried, Regis was tending her, Dandelion was... somewhere?, Cahir was with Geralt in the battle, but is elsewhere now. Yen has just escaped and is trying to find Ciri. And Ciri is being Falka and needs to make things up with her lesbian lover Mistle.

Once again with the not-a-cliffhanger-but-still-demanding-answers ending, Sapkowski? Well, you do it well, so I won't complain. And I have your next book ready to go, so that helps me with not wanting to strangle you for this.

I complimented the book in my previous post, so I don't need to repeat myself here. Great book. Not quite the wild ride of Times of Contempt, true, but Baptism of Fire delivers in its own ways. If you haven't read the translations yet, I highly recommend downloading this one and keeping it for just after you finish reading Times of Contempt because you are NOT going to want to stop.

As for me - onward to The Tower of the Swallow. And more mods... at some point. Right now, it is hard to not just keep reading. In fact, it took willpower to write up this review now instead of reading more. If that isn't a compliment, I don't know what is.

Until next time!
 

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Update: Side Effects

So, onward. I mentioned last time that I had started this one. Today, I finished it.

In this one, the entire goal is to raise money to free Dandelion. Dandelion borrowed money from a loan shark who will feed him to a pair of wyverns unless he pays it back. Fair enough. So it is up to Geralt to raise 2000 gold.

I never did get an answer on how long I had. As it happens, it didn't matter.

Wandering around, I ran into a Blacksmith who is part of some "secret society" and asked that I win the trust of the other three members. "Winning their trust" turned out to be "win at their mini-games". I beat one guy up at the inn, dice-gambled with the grave digger, and got into a drinking contest with a third. In each case, I was rewarded with either a "treasure" or a "secret" - usually a mini dungeon where I could get loot.

Furthermore, I did a dice competition and a night-time boxing competition. I always saved first, and I always bet the max, meaning that I either won big or reloaded. To avoid wasting money, I avoided making potions.

I found a dog guarding a building. I tried to bribe him with chicken, but it didn't work. That night, as I walked by, the dog attacked me for no reason and I was forced to kill it. The "quest" was failed, but I just walked into the building and looted it anyway, so it didn't really matter.

I wanted to get into the cemetery and sewers. To get into the Cemetery, I just needed to talk to an elf woman who was hurt there and she gave me the key. To get the sewer key, I needed to do a drinking contest with some Sergent. I didn't do that one for the following reason... having done all of the above, I was already at 3000 gold. Oh, I almost forgot - I also gave buttermilk to a drunk who gave me a key to a werehouse full of loot.

Special loot I gave to the collector - just after killing the dog, two people gave me "pot roast" which I assume I was supposed to feed to the dog. Oh well.

Anyway, having raised 3k in less than 24 hours, I went to see the loan shark. I gave him 2k, but he insisted on another 1k. I tried to talk him down a little lower and he had his thugs attack me. So I killed them and looted them for 600gp. Then I went in the basement and - died several times. The method that eventually worked was a Yrden trap at the bottom of the stairs and fighting the wyverns first, one at a time, and then taking on the loan-shark himself.

Once that was done, I looted HIS body for the 2k I already paid him. And then Geralt and Dandelion left town.

The End.

Overall: That was fun. Just a pile of side quests for cash. Since I'm already a money hoarder in these sorts of games, it was no problem to make enough money fast. Loot everywhere, sell everything, and don't pay money for anything. I was hurting on potions by the end (a lack of White Radford's Decoctions or helpful blade oils was one reason for my repeated deaths at the end there) made things harder than they probably needed to be, but it also meant that I got the job done quickly.

On a side note, while looking up "curses" on the Witcher wiki, I stumbled across the "And a Curse and Love and Betrayal" adventure. It sounds really good - I'm likely going to install and Lets Play it here for your enjoyment.

And now... back to reading.
 

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Once Witcher 3 is done CDProjekt have said it will be last Witcher game that focuses on Geralt and that his story will for all intents and purposes be done for them. However they've also said there's the possibility of them still working with the Witcher franchise past that just in some other way that isn't connected to the story of Geralt.

So maybe, just maybe, the possibility of getting to play a female witcher isn't that unlikely. Open world Witcher game with customizable characters? I'd play it. Hell, I think it would be a fantastic setting for something like that.
 

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The Madman said:
Once Witcher 3 is done CDProjekt have said it will be last Witcher game that focuses on Geralt and that his story will for all intents and purposes be done for them. However they've also said there's the possibility of them still working with the Witcher franchise past that just in some other way that isn't connected to the story of Geralt.

So maybe, just maybe, the possibility of getting to play a female witcher isn't that unlikely. Open world Witcher game with customizable characters? I'd play it. Hell, I think it would be a fantastic setting for something like that.
That would be, to quote Peter Griffin, "Freakin Sweet."

Although, I'd settle for a game where you could play Ciri. Not only is she absolutely awesome, but as she's canon bisexual, they could include both straight and lesbian sex scenes. I doubt the male players would mind that at all. :p
 

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I forgot Price of Neutrality and Side Effects existed but now I remember playing them. After plowing through the games, and taking who knows how many hours to do so, I found it hard to stomach more Witcher. The silent episodes I couldn't get into at all.

Still enjoy reading this but just haven't had time to comment much.
 

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porous_shield said:
I forgot Price of Neutrality and Side Effects existed but now I remember playing them. After plowing through the games, and taking who knows how many hours to do so, I found it hard to stomach more Witcher. The silent episodes I couldn't get into at all.

Still enjoy reading this but just haven't had time to comment much.
Well, as of the Enhanced Edition, both of those have full voice acting.

As to the rest... well, I never did finish Swamps. A little too much "RPG LOGIC" for me.
 

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Oh MY!

Okay, I'm not finished with The Tower of the Swallow yet, but I had to comment on what I just read. I'll put it in spoilers for those of you who don't want to know anything at all about the books. However, if you don't care about book spoilers - and this is a very minor book spoiler, that is more relevant to the events of the Witcher 2 than anything else - then don't click. If you don't mind the above, then go for it. I look forward to any discussion on this point.

So, back in book 1, Triss said something that mildly implied that her bisexuality was a "phase" and I was annoyed by that implication. However, it could also be interpreted that Triss meant that she merely meant that she tried being just straight and then just gay and settled on bisexual with a preference for other mages.

This interpretation is confirmed: In book 4, The Tower of the Swallow, Triss Merigold and Philippa Eilhart are lovers.

Take a moment and ponder that - Triss and Philippa.

This makes me very sad that these two never actually got to meet during the Witcher 2. Because that would have been a very interesting meeting.

This also means that Triss Merigold is one of the few confirmed canon bisexuals in video games. Ciri, if she really is in the Witcher 3, will be another on that list. That very short list.

So once again bravo to Mr. Sapkowski. I have rarely seen a male author handle his female characters this well.

Oh, and I started on the next extra adventure thing. It uses the map from Chapter 4, which I enjoyed, so yay.
 

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Rose Reviews: The Tower of the Swallow Part 1

The Tower of the Swallow is a strange book. Good, but strange.

Once again, we're following Ciri's story. I'll give the spoiler version in the next post, but for now I will mention this - this book is not linear.

Previously, the books have generally been laid out in a linear time order - the events earlier in the novel take place before the events later in the book.

With The Tower of the Swallow, that is not the case. We start near the end, spend most of the book in flashback, and only progress at the very end (and, even then, we pause for another flashback). In a way, this ties in with some of the theme of The Tower of the Swallow, but only sorta.

I mentioned we're following Ciri again. This is most certainly a Ciri novel - she is the protagonist for the first and last third, and with only the middle third of the novel jumping back to Geralt to let us know what he's been up to. Also, Geralt doesn't really do much this novel - sort of like how Ciri didn't do much last novel - so again this is very much Ciri's story rather than Geralt's. Then again, she is the Swallow in question (Zirila is elven for Swallow, and her name - Cirila - is simply a human pronunciation of said elven word) so Ciri is literally the title character this time around.

This is also the novel where a lot of questions get answered. What is the Elder Blood? What is Vilgefortz up to? Is Triss Merigold still into girls?

Because of its narrative style - being out of order, and starting near the end - this novel lacks the forward momentum of the previous two. Instead of pushing ahead to see what happens next, you're digging curiously to see how Ciri got into the situation presented at the novel's start. So, instead of action as the focus, you end up with a sort of mystery - how did Ciri get from the situation where we left her last time to the one she's in at the start of this one?

As to how I liked it - The Tower of the Swallow sits next to Times of Contempt at tied for "best novel" in the Witcher saga so far. It's a slower book, but only because it reveals the results up front and makes you wonder how those results were accomplished. And then, in the last thirty pages or so, it finally moves forward - and boy does it move forward.

So, once again, a great novel.

And, as always, a more complete synopsis follows.
 
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I have thoroughly enjoyed your lets play. But i must admit that i find it rather humorous that you went from "Give the 1st game a chance because it is cheap on GoG" to reading the books fan-translated.
i must second this opinion, it's quite amazing to see what came out of a dollar for you

I haven't read the books, which apparently i should read...so i won't give an opinion on those, but still, fun to read the thread regardless (didn't read the spoiler stuff)
 

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Rose Reviews: The Tower of the Swallow Part 2

We begin in a swamp, with an old hermit, thus continuing the tradition of starting with the least relevant character possible (or so it seems, since Milva in the last book turned out to be a main character). The same trick gets pulled again when the hermit finds Ciri, wounded, and then takes her back to his house to treat her wounds. Ciri has a new horse and a new Witcher sword in addition to her nasty face wound. The reader (at this point) has no idea where she got any of the three.

The hermit nurses Ciri back to health and, once she's up, invites her to stay. After a time, she begins to trust him and - finally, after he gives her the clothes and ice skates of his dead daughter - she chooses to tell him her story.

We pick up with Mistle and Ciri getting matching tattoos of roses on their inner thighs. Mistle and Ciri have had a somewhat bumpy relationship previously, but they seem to have settled down into a very loving couple. That probably doesn't bode well. In addition to tattoos, they're also getting high on Coke. I mean Fisstech. But, yeah, it's pretty much cocaine.

Anyway, guy from the Thieves Guild shows up and tells them about the upcoming Amnesty due to the Emperor's upcoming marriage to Princess Cirilla. Ciri, as you might imagine, is rather surprised to hear about this. So much so that she decides that this is bullshit and that she is going to... ride to Cintria and retake her kingdom? Clearly Ciri is still pretty high when she comes up with this plan.

So, Ciri kisses Mistle goodbye (promising to come back for her) and then joins up with Thieves Guild guy to go recapture her kingdom. This goes well for about five miles - at which point "bandits" (actually bounty hunters looking for her) turn up and kill the Thieves Guild guy. Ciri, who had previously admired his horse, steals said horse. Also, she realizes that her friends are about to walk into a trap set by another bounty hunter, turns around and rides back to warn them.

Meanwhile, the Rats bang on an inn door and demand that the Bounty Hunter inside - named Bonhart - come outside and fight them. He does so - and with an almost witcher-like efficiency, he kills them all. Well, almost all. Mistle is disemboweled, but alive. And it is at this moment that Ciri arrives. She rages out on Bonhart and almost kills him. He blocks, barely, and then disarms her and throws her into a wall, stunning her (and leaving her lying next to Mistle, who is dying slowly, just for extra trauma).

Although we don't know it at the time, Bonhart has identified Ciri as a Witcher. And... this means something to him. So he takes her alive, against his orders. He attempts to fuel her rage by making her watch as he decapitates the corpses of her friends (Mistle having finally died by this point) with her eyes held open, Clockwork Orange style.

We break from narrative, as we have at several other points, to return to the cabin where Ciri is talking. This time, she breaks down crying and the hermit has to comfort her.

Meanwhile, back in the flashback, Bonhart then sends off some letters. Not long thereafter, he takes Ciri with him to another town where a weapon merchant is waiting for him. He gets Ciri a new Witcher sword (instead of the crap sword she was using before). He has her attack him with a blade and, when it proves too heavy, he asks for another, better sword. Finally she has the best witcher sword he can get her.

Bonhart then takes her to an arena. Some bounty hunters (working for the guy he failed to deliver her to) show up, pissed at him, but he says "if you want her, take her" - pointing to Ciri, with her sword, in the arena. Ciri doesn't want to fight, but she has a Witcher's training and will defend herself. She does so - and everyone that goes up against her ends up dead.

Bonhart seem to want to hone Ciri. I'm not sure why... but he seems to want to make her a better killer. I'm very curious to know what his motivation is. Sadly, in this book, we do not learn that information.

MEANWHILE... we return to Geralt for the middle of the book. Geralt has been pressed into Lyria's army under Queen Maeve. Geralt promptly deserts with his party - causing Dandelion to lament that there are hardly any kingdoms left where they aren't wanted for execution. Geralt doesn't much care - he still has to find Ciri.

Geralt et al meet up with some Bee keepers who say that the Druids have moved south. Also, they happen to be heading south themselves and could really use an escort. Geralt long-sufferingly sighs and agrees.

They head south and arrive in North Case. They get a new location for the Druids - just a bit West - only for Geralt to get "not arrested" by the local Alderman. There, Geralt meets... I'm gonna call her "Not Ciri" - yet another Ciri look alike with a name that begins with an A that I can't even begin to figure out. Anyway, she's a bandit who has turned states evidence with the following info - there are assassins waiting for Geralt to the south. Geralt says "well, I'm going West, so who cares?" only to learn that the Druids are actually to the south after all. Well shit.

Geralt also learns that turning states evidence gets Not Ciri reduced from death by horrific torture to death by hanging. This pisses Geralt off and he agrees to go kill the assassin if they give him Not Ciri. Thus is an agreement reached.

Not Ciri reminds me a little of Chiana from Farscape. Not sure why.

Anyway, on their way South, there's some bad weather and a brief appearance by the Wild Hunt. This storm thing was mentioned when Ciri turned up at the hermit's house, so we can assume that this moment with Geralt coincides with that. Anyway, Geralt takes this to mean that Ciri is dead, and announces as much to everyone. Now, he says, they're in this for vengeance instead of rescue. Geralt has also come to another conclusion - they've been betrayed. Geralt initially blames Cahir, getting into a fist fight over it, but later admits that he just didn't want to admit the real truth... that the only traitor could be Yennifer, spying on them magically. Cahir accepts Geralt's apology and points out that he keeps having Ciri dreams, so she can't be dead. Geralt lets that lighten his spirits a bit.

So, the plan is this - Regis, Milva, and Dandelion will head to a Free City to hide while Geralt, Cahir, and Not Ciri go find this assassin and beat the shit out of him until he tells them who hired him. Good times. They do so - find the assassin, that is. Unfortunately, the assassin has massive back-up and captures them in turn. Only for... some one? Miners? To start shooting the back-up with arrows. Geralt takes advantage of this to kill a bunch of dudes (but not the assassin) and run for it. He, Cahir, and Not-Ciri flee to that Free City, but they are followed.

Near the free city, a lot happens. Dandelion turns out to be a noble OF this Free City. So wait... Dandelion is from Nilfgaard?! Didn't see that one coming.

Two - the Druids are PISSED OFF. They use Treants - or Ents, if you prefer the Lord of the Rings spelling - to take out the assassin and his thug friends and then burn the survivors alive. Geralt protests that he wants to question the assassin, but the Druids... yeah, this part is a little weird. The Druids won't "pardon" the criminal. Geralt makes it pretty clear that he wants to TORTURE THE GUY FOR INFO, so he's clearly not asking for a pardon. Ah well... Druids. Geralt's only evidence about who hired the assassin dies in a fire.

And now... Yennifer! And Triss. But not at the same time.

We're once again treated to some out-of-sequence events. Triss heads to the Skellige Islands to investigate reports that Yennifer popped up there. She learns that Yen did indeed... and then learns a bit about what Yen was up to.

It turns out that Yen made contact with the King there. Ciri spent much of her childhood on the Islands due to the King's relationship with her grandmother (or the previous King?). Ciri, in fact, learned to ice skate here, showing up the local prince. Remember those Ice Skates she got from the Hermit earlier? Here's a connection to that. Thank you Chekhov.

Yennefer convinces them that she's not a traitor and that she's looking for Ciri. To do this she needs several things:

1) A butt-ton of cash.
2) A giant diamond.
3) Time.
4) A ship.

The King can provide three out of four - he has no diamond large enough. But it turns out that the temple to Freya does. For some reason, the Skellige Islands have their own religion - one ripped directly off of Norse mythology, including Heimdal and Ragnarok. So this is THAT Freya. The priestess likes Yennefer because she helped a pregnant woman upon her arrival, but not enough to give up their sacred diamond. However, the priestess does suggest that Yen try praying.

Yen has a vision of the goddess who chats with her, asks what she's willing to sacrifice, and then gives loans her the diamond. Yen wakes up (the diamond has detached itself from the goddess's statue) and makes a Megascope with said diamond. And she begins making her calls...

Which leads to the Philippa/Triss scene. Yennefer calls up Triss and Philippa is there too since Yen just interrupted them having sex. This scene is hilarious because Triss is clearly embarrassed, but Yen and Philippa are all business. One gets the impression that Philippa could carry on bare-ass naked in full court if she had do - and she'd look fabulous doing it. Triss, meanwhile, is so cutely flustered. It helps show how being 100 years old has jaded both Yen and Philippa to the point where who's fucking whom just isn't important anymore.

Anyway, after the call, Yen needs that last thing - a ship. She's going to the Bermuda Triangle to investigate something. See, it turns out that whenever a member of Ciri's bloodline dies, there's a huge storm right afterwards "like the sea is mourning". Except Ciri's mom was supposedly killed BY the storm that was summoned by her death - a paradox. Some people say this is superstition, but remember, Yen was part of the "Lara Eugenics Project" that made Ciri in the first place, so she knows better. That means Ciri's mom couldn't have died IN the storm... she had to have died first.

So Yen sails her boat to the stop where Ciri's mom vanished - and, with her escort ship standing witness, Yen's ship is pulled UP INTO THE AIR by some sort of portal vortex thingy. Woah!

Technically we're supposed to head back to Ciri at that point, but I'll stick with this plotline a bit since this takes place LONG before most of the Ciri stuff. See, it turns out that the Bermuda Triangle is where Vilgefortz is hiding. Or at least the portal leads there, I wasn't entirely clear on that point. Either way, Yen has found Vilgefortz... and has gotten herself captured by him. Good job Yen.

He takes her off for some torture. It turns out that, by hooking her into this machine, he can magically track the people she loves (while incidentally torturing her). He can't lock on to Ciri, but he does manage to find Geralt... and arranges for those assassins to go after him, thus explaining that part of the story. Also, he reveals that what he wants is Ciri's placenta.

... that's right, Ciri's placenta. Remember, the placenta is an organ that grows during pregnancy - a woman doesn't have that organ most of the time.

Remember too, that Vilgefortz's other fortress, the one found by Dijskara in the last book, was filled up with dead girls who'd been cut open.

Vilgefortz has been practicing how to remove a placenta from a living woman and keep the woman alive while doing so.

And to have a placenta, a woman must be pregnant. Which means he's either been kidnapping pregnant women, or he's been kidnapping any women and then raping them until they're pregnant.

....

WHAT THE HOLY FUCKING FUCK, VILGEFORTZ?!?!?!

Yeah, that officially wins the "No, seriously, what the FUCK?!" award.

Because... seriously... da fuck?!

Ahem.

Okay, now that that bit of insanity is out of the way... we pick up with Ciri.

Apparently Bonhart has figured out who she is. Not sure when that happened - sometime after the Arena apparently. And he's pulled her out of the arena. I feel like I missed a chapter, but whatever. I guess Gladiator Ciri wasn't interesting enough to write more than one scene of.

... now THAT is a mode we need in the games. ^^

So anyway, Bonhart is meeting with Rience, "The Owl" whose other name is too complex to remember, so I'm sticking with the Owl, and that half-elven assassin who we saw get burnt alive earlier. Because time is fucked in this novel.

One of the POV characters this book as been a Psi-mage - a telepath like the ones in Babylon 5. I kept picturing Lita from B5 whenever I read this character. Probably because of the frequent nose-bleeds. She mostly exists to follow the bounty hunters and assassin guy around and then "report on what she saw" in a trial that's taking place a year later where she's the key witness.

I bring her up because, while Bonhart, Rience, the Owl, the assassin, and Vilgefortz (via magic radio) discuss Ciri and how exactly they plan to divide her up (Bonhart wants to watch Vilgefortz remove her placenta), Psionic girl is guarding Ciri. And Psi girl is just curious enough to try to take a peek....

Which trips Ciri's "anti-mind-reading" defenses. Her magic has been repressed ever since her incident in the desert using Fire Mana, but Psi girl accidentally reawakens her powers. And Ciri uses her powers responsibility, as we all would - to cause severe brain hemorrhages in all those nearby. Psi-girl and several others go down with nosebleeds and Ciri makes her escape. She grabs her black horse - the one she got back at the beginning of the book, who she calls Kelpie - and makes a break for it. The Owl uses one of those ninja-stars from the previous book and - injures her face! She rides off. They go after her, but her trail just... stops at one point. Like she started flying.

And that is how Ciri ended up in the swamp where the Hermit found her.

I didn't mention it earlier, because I wanted to now - when Ciri first woke up with the Hermit, she remembers what day she was wounded on - three days earlier - but the hermit said that her wound was only a few hours old.

So, Ciri has memory issues, lost time, and a flying horse.

And all this occurred on the same day as a massive storm - and the Wild Hunt - was seen across Nilfgaard and the Northern Kingdoms. At the same time as this, Geralt had a premonition that Ciri was dead, even though she wasn't.

It isn't said straight out, but it certainly sounds like Ciri joined the Wild Hunt for 3 days, and then ended up in the swamp, where she collapsed. I might be wrong, but that sure seems to be what happened.

Anyway... Ciri has finished her story and is leaving the Hermit. He found out that there are men here, looking for her. Moreover, there is another ruined tower with a ruined portal, and not far off. It is called... the Tower of the Swallow. And the portal there is supposed to take her back to Thanned Island.

Then again, the portal there was supposed to take her to the Tower of the Swallow, so that might be bullshit.

Ciri's pursuers are sniffing around, though, so she figures that anywhere else is better than here. So she's going to the Tower. She paints her face black, commando style, and then heads off... to the nearest town, where four thugs are supposed to be looking for her. She sends a message to her pursuers by murdering them. She is no longer calling herself Falka - she's now "the Witcher".

So she heads off. We pick up at the lake where the tower is supposed to be. She's found it, but Rience, the Owl, and his minions are hot on her tail. Rience's magical radio isn't working, to his frustration. Rience, in all irony, is upset that he got the "hard job" while the half-elven assassin got the "easy job". I suppose being burned alive by Druids is easy.

The chase leads the entire group out onto the Ice. Bonhart spells a rat and retreats to go around on more solid ground, leaving Rience and the Owl to continue. They do so - only for Ciri to start murdering them all. Remember those ice skates she got? Yes, Ciri is the Witcher: On Ice! Turns out all that skating she did in the Skellge islands has paid off - it, combined with her Witcher training, lets her kill 9 men and Rience (she cuts off his fingers and lets him drown in the icy water). The Owl, she lets live, because he (and his last man) threw down their weapons. This mercy she gives him because she doesn't want to be a monster anymore.

Ciri heads to the Tower - which is nothing but ruins - but Bonhart is on her tail. He tries to follow - and falls through the ice. He climbs out, but not before Ciri enters the portal at the tower.

Which leads... inside the Tardis. Yes, the tower is bigger on the inside than on the outside, and apparently lets her travel through time. No, that's not a joke. She meets an elf inside... who I assume is the Doctor.

... and that's where the book ends.

No, really. That's it.

So... Gearlt is sitting around a Druid Grove, poking the ashes of the only guy who could give him any answers or point him in the right direction. Yennefer is in Vilgefortz's dungeon when she isn't hooked up to his Torture Machine. Triss is running around the Skelleg Islands, trying to figure out where Yen went. And Ciri is in the Tardis with the Doctor.

....

So yeah, that was The Tower of the Swallow. I leave you with this image:

Emperior Emyres: "Do you think you can defeat the Nilfgaard Empire with only four Daleks?!"

Dalek Leader: "No. We can defeat the Nilfgaard Empire with ONE Dalek. Exterminate!"

Goodnight folks!

I should write something here. Um... great book! Weird book. More Ciri - good.

See you in The Lady of the Lake! Or, more likely, more Witcher 1 DLC.
 

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i must second this opinion, it's quite amazing to see what came out of a dollar for you

I haven't read the books, which apparently i should read...so i won't give an opinion on those, but still, fun to read the thread regardless (didn't read the spoiler stuff)
Indeed. I am very glad I gave it a chance. And, from 1 dollar for the first game, I will likely be getting the Witcher 3 at release for the full 60 bucks.

I do recommend the novels. Not only do they help clarify the games, but they are often better written. I've discussed that before, but one point is the simple issue of two many cooks. The novels have a unified voice - one writer with a vision. The games (particularly the first game) have multiple writers, and sometimes that lack of unity shows.

In any case, thanks for reading! ^^
 

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gmaverick019 said:
i must second this opinion, it's quite amazing to see what came out of a dollar for you

I haven't read the books, which apparently i should read...so i won't give an opinion on those, but still, fun to read the thread regardless (didn't read the spoiler stuff)
Indeed. I am very glad I gave it a chance. And, from 1 dollar for the first game, I will likely be getting the Witcher 3 at release for the full 60 bucks.

I do recommend the novels. Not only do they help clarify the games, but they are often better written. I've discussed that before, but one point is the simple issue of two many cooks. The novels have a unified voice - one writer with a vision. The games (particularly the first game) have multiple writers, and sometimes that lack of unity shows.

In any case, thanks for reading! ^^
I cant remember but did you get to the part where Geralt wants to pick his name ?
 

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I cant remember but did you get to the part where Geralt wants to pick his name ?
Yes, quite a while since. I can't remember... wasn't that in book 3?

Geralt Roger Eric du Haute-Bellegarde

Good times. ^^
 

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I cant remember but did you get to the part where Geralt wants to pick his name ?
Yes, quite a while since. I can't remember... wasn't that in book 3?

Geralt Roger Eric du Haute-Bellegarde

Good times. ^^
It is a awesome name. His master is just being a hater.
 

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Geralt Roger Eric du Haute-Bellegarde

It is a awesome name. His master is just being a hater.
I like that, of his three first names, Geralt is actually the hardest to pronounce. :p
 

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So, I just started reading The Lady of the Lake and... - minor spoiler - Ciri meets Galahad. Of King Arthur's Knights. In England. On Earth. This Earth.

... Ciri really did meet the Doctor. I thought I was joking.

Also, I just met the Fisher King in the novels.

Of all the things to be canon, I wasn't expecting Murky Waters to be it.
 

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Hi,

nice review! Thanks for it! :) I really like your writing style. I have just finished The Tower of the Swallow and it was indeed an amazing book. To be honest, while I was reading your review, something sparked my interest. Maybe I misunderstood or mixed it with another scene. (From now on I am putting it in a spoiler tag).

It is about Triss? and Philippa?s affair.
You wrote:
Which leads to the Philippa/Triss scene. Yennefer calls up Triss and Philippa is there too since Yen just interrupted them having sex. This scene is hilarious because Triss is clearly embarrassed, but Yen and Philippa are all business. One gets the impression that Philippa could carry on bare-ass naked in full court if she had do - and she'd look fabulous doing it. Triss, meanwhile, is so cutely flustered. It helps show how being 100 years old has jaded both Yen and Philippa to the point where who's fucking whom just isn't important anymore.

I remember that scene but didn?t get the impression that Yennifer interrupted them having sex. If I understood correctly they were ?just? going out together (maybe a dating). Although it was late at night, both were wearing clothes. Triss was in a dress, while Philippa was wearing a men?s jerkin. I also think they were lovers, it was clearly hinted in the book. But cannot remember a scene where they were ?enjoying? each other?s company. But again, maybe I mixed it with another scene or simply missed something. Could you tell me where was this ominous scene? I'm curious. XD

Thanks for the help and looking forward to your next review about The Lady of the Lake. :)
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
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Hi,

nice review! Thanks for it! :) I really like your writing style. I have just finished The Tower of the Swallow and it was indeed an amazing book. To be honest, while I was reading your review, something sparked my interest. Maybe I misunderstood or mixed it with another scene. (From now on I am putting it in a spoiler tag).
Hello! Thanks for reading, and thank you for the compliment!

As to your question - there were two previous scenes where Philippa answered a call with lipstick on her face and in less put-together state of dress. In those scenes no lover was mentioned, but when the identify of her lover was later revealed, it informed those previous scenes.
 

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Yami said:
Bara_no_Hime said:
Rose Reviews: The Tower of the Swallow Part 2
Hi,

nice review! Thanks for it! :) I really like your writing style. I have just finished The Tower of the Swallow and it was indeed an amazing book. To be honest, while I was reading your review, something sparked my interest. Maybe I misunderstood or mixed it with another scene. (From now on I am putting it in a spoiler tag).
Hello! Thanks for reading, and thank you for the compliment!

As to your question - there were two previous scenes where Philippa answered a call with lipstick on her face and in less put-together state of dress. In those scenes no lover was mentioned, but when the identify of her lover was later revealed, it informed those previous scenes.
Thank you for your quick answer! Now I can put the pieces together. Indeed, I remember those scenes with Philippa. At first it was very ambiguous, didn?t know who her ?secret? lover was, but now everything is clear.
I guess Phil and Triss were going on a date when Yennifer interrupted them. That's why Philippa was wearing a men's jerkin - she was the dominant partner, the "man" in their relationship. While Triss was wearing a simple dress for going out.
 

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Thank you for your quick answer! Now I can put the pieces together. Indeed, I remember those scenes with Philippa. At first it was very ambiguous, didn?t know who her ?secret? lover was, but now everything is clear. I guess Phil and REDACTED were going on a date when Yennifer interrupted them. That's why Philippa was wearing a men's jerkin - she was the dominant partner, the "man" in their relationship. While REDACTED was wearing a simple dress for going out.
See, I assumed something different. Philippa is a fan of S&M during the second game, and certain leather wear does resemble the leather armor "male clothes" that have been mentioned for sorceresses doing serious work.

As for a dress - well, I don't know about the guys here, but when I get "interrupted" often the fastest thing to throw on is a light sundress. You can just slip it on and look fully dressed, even if you were naked 10 seconds earlier. Now, I wouldn't want to go out that way (no bra or panties) but I've had to answer the door like that when - say - a UPS package arrived while my spouse and I were having sex and I needed to sign for it.

So, that COULD be an explanation as well. Or they could have been about to go out on a date. Either one is plausible.