Analyst: Square Enix Faces Tough Year With Single-Player Games
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I love Analysts, they are just the coolest guys. The make stupid amounts of money to predict things for an industry they often times know nothing about. The whole thing is completely unpredictable, that is my favorite bit, the false sense of foresight they think they have. This is what analysts do: They look at data and conjecture about data given by other analysts. They then make broad sweeping statements that sound very informed but they have the career accuracy that is the mathematical equivalent to making random guesses about everything they talk about.
That said, he could be right, but I would wager it won't be for the reasons he is stating. If they don't do well it won't because they have aggregate critic scores of only 80, it won't be because they didn't tack on enough MP on their games. It'll be because lately all they do is sink money into remaking old games, which I have never had the impulse to buy. They also spend years developing games and they should expect years of turn around time on the profits based on that. They have huge projects going and they don't respect deadlines at all. FFXIII was years in development, years of money sink, and yet the game was not very good. High development cost is almost universally due to bad spending and does not usually mean a whole lot to the actual game.
As a comparison: I have spent probably a total of 430+ hours on Dark Souls between the PS3 version and the PC version. I don't think I have spent that much time on all of the Square/Squeenix games I have played put together, and my first Final Fantasy game was Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest on the SNES. I have played through all of their Final Fantasy games since that game. You don't get those kind of hours from over inflated budget, you get those kinds of hours from quality games.
That said, he could be right, but I would wager it won't be for the reasons he is stating. If they don't do well it won't because they have aggregate critic scores of only 80, it won't be because they didn't tack on enough MP on their games. It'll be because lately all they do is sink money into remaking old games, which I have never had the impulse to buy. They also spend years developing games and they should expect years of turn around time on the profits based on that. They have huge projects going and they don't respect deadlines at all. FFXIII was years in development, years of money sink, and yet the game was not very good. High development cost is almost universally due to bad spending and does not usually mean a whole lot to the actual game.
As a comparison: I have spent probably a total of 430+ hours on Dark Souls between the PS3 version and the PC version. I don't think I have spent that much time on all of the Square/Squeenix games I have played put together, and my first Final Fantasy game was Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest on the SNES. I have played through all of their Final Fantasy games since that game. You don't get those kind of hours from over inflated budget, you get those kinds of hours from quality games.
They expect less sales due to slow sales of consoles?
How about this solution? Remake FF VII for PC and Android devices.
How about this solution? Remake FF VII for PC and Android devices.
If they want money, it really is that simple.Rex Dark said:
Although, long time Square fans would be upset, seeing as how what is really wanted is a total Hd graphical overhaul of FF VII, but they'd buy it anyway.
For this I would say the consumers are at fault.
Just as in the case with almost everything else in the industry.
They claim to want original games yet they only throw money at people who make throwbacks to older games or are people who will just make the same damn games over and over again.
They claim to want singleplayer games yet when a publisher supports them, they won't buy the games.
They claim to want more equality in games yet they won't buy games with proper female protagonists.
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Just as in the case with almost everything else in the industry.
They claim to want original games yet they only throw money at people who make throwbacks to older games or are people who will just make the same damn games over and over again.
They claim to want singleplayer games yet when a publisher supports them, they won't buy the games.
They claim to want more equality in games yet they won't buy games with proper female protagonists.
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I actually like the fact that Square still makes single player only games. Hearing about multiplayer in Tomb Raider made me a little sad. As Yahtzee just said in his Sim City review today, not all of us want to play with other people when we play games. Sometimes, you just want to play by yourself and enjoy the adventure without anything else bugging you. So I will continue to buy Final Fantasy, until they drop multiplayer in that too (the MMORPG ones don't count).
That thought was going through my mind too. It seems like, every time a company tries to put out a single player game, gamers throw it back at them and say it's crap. There are exceptions of course, but that does seem to be the general feeling. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.Azaraxzealot said:
LOL, NO. I didn't mean I like them, I'm right with you with not touching a BW game with a ten foot pole again (only I extended that policy to include EA entirely). I meant like someone who goes against popular opinion.FFP2 said:You're on your own with that oneMechalynx said:Never buying a BW game again.
OT: How are they gonna make the FMVs HD? Sorry, don't know much about stuff like that.
guys like that are the main problem of game industry.
i hope that all big publishing companies will focus entirely on mobile/tablet market and make room for "real" games from indie devs/kickstarter projects.
i hope that all big publishing companies will focus entirely on mobile/tablet market and make room for "real" games from indie devs/kickstarter projects.
Remember, this is the guy who said that the PS4 needs to be $300, and that no digital sales of any kind are counted in these sales numbers...Steam, on-demand, whatever. Also, brothers be stealin my thread and shit : ) (wish I had a meme for that).
Should I even bring up the topic of FFVII remake and KH3? Or FFXIII Versus? Or TWEWY 2? No? Ok...
Squeenix is good at making single-player games. There's a reason why FF and KH games alone have such a big fanbase, even though the best ones came out before the multiplayer era. They can do it, and yes, Tomb Raider and Hitman were good but maybe not good enough to get them out of the ditch. But it's a good start.
Seriously, can I just mention something about FFXIV? Or Lightning Returns? Still no..? Fine...
Squeenix is good at making single-player games. There's a reason why FF and KH games alone have such a big fanbase, even though the best ones came out before the multiplayer era. They can do it, and yes, Tomb Raider and Hitman were good but maybe not good enough to get them out of the ditch. But it's a good start.
Seriously, can I just mention something about FFXIV? Or Lightning Returns? Still no..? Fine...
Yes it is. It's also safe to call him a gigantic towering retard who has no idea of what he's doing and someone whose job is now at risk due to failure of logic forever.Mangod said:
More Paine for me equals more fun for us. I'm looking forward to seeing her back an HD comeback...that and Rikku's thief outfit again. Rawr.Mechalynx said:Ditto. Kinda makes me feel like someone who actually liked the ME3 endings.FFP2 said:I doShadowKatt said: