Analyst: Xbox 360 Failures Caused by Cost-Cutting

ultra_v_89

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Between my cousins and I we have 5 xbox 360s. Three are early models, mine is a newish one and the other is a new elite. 3 have RRoD, the 2 early ones and mine. Yes this is a pain in the anus but its being repaired for free. Still thats one hell of a statistic 3/5 died and one of the survivers is an elite, so I'm unsure whether they have solved the problem for these. I still prefer it to the other consoles, though.
 

dekkarax

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you know, I'm not suprised by that, but I am suprised that the 360 software is pretty stable, why aren't PCs like that?

I don't have a 360, but most of my friends have one; so far 2 have RRODed, and all but one have scratched at least on disk....ouch, makes me glad I bought a ps3... oh wait, that died a couple of months ago XD, but I got it replaced for free recently.

Oh, and I think the 360's failiure rate is about 33% but I'm probably wrong
 

ingsoc

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The RROD issue is not entirely surprising as MS rushed the 360 into production once they knew the potential of the PS3. Who can blame them, had the PS3 hit the market first, the 360 may have already gone the way of the Saturn and Dreamcast. When you take shortcuts, bad things are bound to happen, but at least they got off to a good start which saves this generation for them.
 

L.B. Jeffries

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laikenf said:
Can MS get sued for that?
Several class actions have already been launched. They were pretty shaky at first but now that this is becoming public knowledge, it could heat up a bit.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061208-8381.html

Either way, those things take years upon years to march through.
 

Pebsy

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once again this only teaches microsoft no to release C*** to the public, the 360 is good, but not when its in a coffin, im starting to think this may happen to vista... it sure looks like its heading down the same road as the x-box.
 

Necrohydra

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An ASIC? If Microsoft was replacing 4 or 5 chips with a single big workhorse (which is likely), then no wonder the thing had heating problems. I've read other articles on this (from other engineering-minded people), and it seems the rush to beat the PS3 was just as much at fault, if not more so, than cost-cutting.

But this is all water under the bridge.
 

Arbre

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Cousin_IT said:
Mines ring was orange rather than red. I feel somehow cheated :-D
Collector!?
I put an option on it!
Gimme your price dude.

More seriously, isn't there a SKU variant which is a bit more reliable?
What about the Elite? I mean, besides the cookie box sized power hog...
 

Anton P. Nym

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Arbre said:
More seriously, isn't there a SKU variant which is a bit more reliable?
What about the Elite? I mean, besides the cookie box sized power hog...
I don't think there's an SKU you can look for, but if I were looking for a 360 these days I'd keep an eye on the build date. More recent builds are more likely to have the smaller die chips (less heat) and the frame update... and the HDMI output, a selling point for some.

(I'm fighting down the temptation to buy an Elite this summer to replace my Pro with it's far-too-full hard drive, and instead just bite the bullet and get the 120GB drive kit. But that HDMI port is tempting.)

-- Steve
 

ShadeOfRed

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I've never had a Red Ring and I've had mine since this Christmas. Still, Anaylsts say the Xbox made using cheap products? Why don't we just use educated gamers to do the analyzing? Sure, there would be bias, but it's better than people just stating the obvious and playing the Analyst Version of Yahtzee all day.

Unrelated: I Google searched Yahtzee to make sure I spelt it right, and ZP came up before the actual game.
 

Arbre

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Anton P. Nym said:
Arbre said:
More seriously, isn't there a SKU variant which is a bit more reliable?
What about the Elite? I mean, besides the cookie box sized power hog...
I don't think there's an SKU you can look for, but if I were looking for a 360 these days I'd keep an eye on the build date. More recent builds are more likely to have the smaller die chips (less heat) and the frame update...
Any idea where we can find this build date on the machine? I'm not afraid of asking the retail guy to open the box and check the product. I might even leave with some money if he does so, as long as I get the freshier thing, because I can't accept the almost mandatory RROD.