Ancient Astronauts

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Griffolion

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Hi everyone,

I was wondering what your thoughts on ancient astronauts were? I always find the topic very compelling, because you just never know.

For more info see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts
 

Aurgelmir

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I like the idea, not sure it is true though, but I love stories that play with the idea.

I would recommend a Novel I read which dealt with the stuff, but it's sort of the big twist in the book... so by recommending it I also ruin it :(

That said there are a lot of "proof" for this hypothesis in ancient art and texts... enven passages in the bible sound like science fiction if read with modern eyes.
 

Neverhoodian

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I don't believe it.

Nobody has found any hard evidence yet to back up the hypothesis. Moreover, everything we know about faster-than-light travel suggests it's basically impossible, making the odds of extraterrestrial visitation at any time in human history a moot point.
 

Hiphophippo

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I'm at least open to the idea considering it can't be proven 100% false. Of course, I could say the same about most things.
 

Kayevcee

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Jack Kirby was really into the "Ancient Astronauts" theory, particularly where it concerned Central and South American civilisations. It's where the Kree Empire in Fantastic Four came from, and later his entire Eternals run was based on it. I'm pretty sure one of the Celestials piloted a jet-bike that was very similar to that sarcophagus lid from Pakal the Great.

I don't put much stock in it myself, but any suggestion that world history is even weirder than we expected is always worth listening to I reckon :)

-Nick
 

OtherSideofSky

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Lovecraft did it better.
I can never stomach the whole "alien astronaut" business, but the Cthulhu mythos (at least in Lovecraft's original writings) expresses the same ideas in what I find to be far more compelling terms and from a viewpoint I find more sensible.
 

thethingthatlurks

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Short answer: it's a load of crap. It's a stupid idea. It's WRONG!

Long answer+explanation: what you have is a few people grasping at straws to sell ridiculous books, which in turn are filled with even more ridiculous claims. Let's analyze the basic scenario: you have a megalithic structure placed in a certain spot without any discernible purpose. An archeologist (aka a scientist) will now try to discover the purpose behind the structure using previously established knowledge of the religious/cultural customs of the ancient people who lived in the area. If that yields no results, they will look the structure's relative position. It might be a type of calender, or a market place, etc. If that still yields no results, they will (hopefully) collaborate with other archeologists who have studied similar structures in other places. At this point, an answer to the structure's purpose will generally have been found. If there is something new or special to this structure, a new theory on the religious/social/cultural practices of the ancient people of that region may be developed. This is known as science, a systemic approach to problem solving that has exterminated smallpox, landed humans on the moon, and allows a 20-something asshole to post a reply that other people can read.
Conversely, one of those ancient aliens conspiracy theorist will likely claim that humans could not have constructed said structure however many thousands of years ago, or that we even today would not be able to do so (as with the pyramids, which is incidentally a load of shit). He'll then posit that some other force must have intervened, so they'll pick ET, as that claim is just a tiny bit less retarded than claiming that goddidit. They'll then attempt to discern some purpose behind the structure, which will ultimately boil down to "energy" production, or "dimensional gateway," or similar claptrap. Has anything been learned through this idle speculation? Can we apply that conclusion as a basis for a more overarching new theory? Does it even make sense? The answer to all three: hell no!

Look, you can believe whatever you want to, but there are people (like me, and everybody with at least half of a working brain), who will loudly question whether you rode the shortbus back in high school. There is nothing wrong with wanting to know whether or not a claim presented is true or not, but there is something seriously wrong with just buying it without questioning. Here's a good piece of advice: if somebody makes an outlandish claim, chances are good they are retarded or just after some gullible fool's money if any of the following are true: 1) the word "energy" or "dimension" is used without context or further explanation. 2) it relies on "ancient" practices or believes, and is backed up by ancient art/buildings/practices. 3) it fails Occham's razor. 4) there is a claim of suppression of evidence by some shadowy organization, governments, "scientists," the UN, etc. 5) none of the people presenting the claim have real degrees.

I will admit that I occasionally watch that Ancient Aliens show on History. 'course, I drink a shot whenever somebody is laughably wrong, or tries to convince the audience of something a first grader would see through. I yet have to make it through an entire episode while playin' my little drinking game...

Oh, Lord Inglip sayeth: builea sciences.
 

dfphetteplace

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Makes more sense then, and could explain, the idea of gods and goddesses. Not saying it is true, but I have thought it was interesting for a long time as well.
 

Ekonk

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It's either a compelling argument for the invention of time travel sometime in the future or utter coincidince between early art and current scientific development.

Most likely the latter.
 

KeyMaster45

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You know those alien nut posters that read "I want to believe" well I'd like to believe the ancient aliens thing (if only because it would make life a little more interesting were it to be true) but sadly I can't.

There's to much evidence to the contrary, or as a friend of mine like to says "Damn you science for always being such a killjoy!" I think I saw one of those history channel episodes where a guy suggested the pyramids were power plants that shot microwave radiation into the sky as a method for powering Egypt.

Their research at best sounds like the kind of work I could put out 3 days before a paper is due after watching a marathon of Stargate and a cursory glance at a history book on Egypt.
 

Toaster Hunter

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I don't think there were ancient astronauts. The evidence supporting the theory is sketchy at best, and that's being generous. An ancient picture that vaguely resembles what may be a space suit or a space craft is not compelling proof.
 

thethingthatlurks

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Toaster Hunter said:
I don't think there were ancient astronauts. The evidence supporting the theory is sketchy at best, and that's being generous. An ancient picture that vaguely resembles what may be a space suit or a space craft is not compelling proof.
Actually it would be, had it been carved in say...moon rock!
 

twistedmic

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I'd believe in ancient alien astronauts, or time traveling humans from the distant future, if they ever found evidence of a laptop computer or fluorescent lighting around the mega-structures (The Great Pyramids, Stone Henge, etc.). It doesn't make much sense, to me at least, that highly advanced, intergalactic space faring aliens would travel to a backwater planet just to teach the primitive inhabitants how to stack big blocks of rock.
 

Soxafloppin

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I believe the technical term is "Full of Shit". But its interesting none the less.
 

Demonicdan

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I don't think that a few stick figures drawn by ancient people can be considered evidence for ancient alien visitations, things like comets and natural disasters could seem like aliens to the eyes of someone without a reference point for them.