And just like that, Origin will have thousands of new users (ME3)

[Kingjackl]

God I love having an Xbox. Just means I don't have to put up with shit like this.

In all fairness, holding an extremly popular title ransom as a way to force users into installing a buggy, experimental new digital distribution system...isn't that exactly the same as what Valve did with Half-Life 2 to get people on Steam way back in 2005? People complained then, but they still bought it, enjoyed the game, and by the time Episode 1 came out, everybody loved Steam. Who's to say that won't happen with Origin as well?

Besides, when I hear a lot of complaints about Origin's software being buggy, or slowing down your computer, or games not downloading properly, I think "have you people been using the same Steam as I have for the last 5 years?" Surely I can't be the only one who's had there computer slow to a crawl while Steam's been running in the background, or been forced to re-download an entire game just for the sake of a single patch. How could Origin be any worse? It seems more like people are just arguing against Origin out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness towards EA, but anyone who refuses to allow themselves to enjoy something based on pointless, left-wing principles is just being a wanker.

 

[Something Amyss]

But it's only evil if Origin does it.

That's all you needed to say, really.

 

[Something Amyss]

I've never understood this whole "first world problems" thing. It stands to reason that first world people would obviously have first world problems.

I think it's one of those hipster things. And even if not, it's fun to blame hipsters!

>.>

 

[zumbledum]

I've said it 50 times and I'll say it again, this is no different than how Steam first got people to start using it.

Difference being Half Life 2 was single player only. Oh and their servers exploded and nobody could play the game, because they couldn't register their single player only game.

But it's only evil if Origin does it.

ok for the 50th time someone will try and explain the differences

origin is evil because its a monopolistic strong arm you really cant fairly compare it to steam they dont do the same thing.

Steam enables competition and choice, they sell any publishers product they sell indie games and allow other to compete fairly.

Origin dont.

And op.. it really isnt a matter of having porn on your comp theres no money in that for EA, what the danger is with their privacy policy is social profiling. the way they can compile and sell your data can come up in any multitude of ways. lets say your female and looking at a lot of baby/child websites you go on the list as being looking to have a kid soon and your chances of getting a job with anyone buying the profiling data drops to zero. you might find yourself barred from getting a loan or a mortgage because you look at the wrong credit sites. basically any profile data on you will be used to discriminate against you its the sole reason for it existing.

Far fetched and unlikely? today yes. 5 years from now?

 

[dyre]

You're a little late, OP

And like other people said, using Origins is the same as using Steam. Well, besides Valve being a more consumer-friendly company than EA, anyway.

Well, that and Steam has a much bigger selection and much, much better prices. It also have years of experience over Origin, and is much more stable.

I meant in terms of moral offensiveness, but yeah, ofc Steam is the better choice for a consumer

 

[TilMorrow]

Sooooo when ME3 releases, Origin's laptops will have thousands of new users? I don't see how thats so bad.

I'm only messing around. Well to quote a poster who is toting around a great timelord as their avatar:

1. ...The EULA was changed to remove that clause, and now it is no different than Steam's. Seriously, people, grow the fuck up and do research before you complain.

2. PLAY ME3 ON THE CONSOLES.

It was sometime around June or May last year when EA revised the EULA after everyone started hating on Origin. Heard about it mostly through my TOR account. At least EA can do something right. But I'm not getting it on the PC. I have an Xbox 360 Shepard silently waiting to be reassigned to kicking Reapers' ass and blowing shit up.

-snip-

So Origin's going to allow EA to be an evil version of Target and go against the law by helping them collect personal information and enabling them to sell said information that they aren't allowed to sell in the first place?
1. Evidence noaw please.
2. Why hasn't FB cashed in on that market yet?

 

[Waaghpowa]

Never planned to boycott it. Also, who cares? So long as you don't start purchasing games on their Origin store is it a really big deal? Boy, they sure showed steam with their 2 exclusive games right?

Fact of the matter is, using Origin isn't going to kill anyone, nor is forcing people to use it for the small collection of titles going to make it a success. Origin is a failure as of now because they fail to offer competitive pricing with any other digital service. I'm going to use it for Battlefield 3 and Mass Effect 3, but does that mean I will buy anything on it unless I have to? No. Not until they start giving me a better deal on games than I can find somewhere else.

So can we please stop whining about it?

 

[Saltychipmunk]

the main difference between origin and steam.
One is owned by a soulless corporate entity which will stop at nothing to squeeze every drop of blood out of its consumer base. The other is owned by Valve

I do not trust EA with anything.
I at the every least trust valve with my business.

 

[razer17]

And once gain EA will prove that they don't actually need their customers to like them to earn a profit. That customer goodwill is just another marketing strategy that's beneath the big players.

But at least you will be able to play the latest game, that's all that matters right?

I hope you don't have any embarassing anime porn on your hard disk. lol

Yes, because EA give a shit if you have hentai on your HD. They're gonna hire staff just to find out who likes their porn to be a bit odd.

These sort of EULA's are common place, and they are probably in almost every piece of software you have installed. Steam has one, iTunes has one, Windows itself has one. What do you think EA will actually monitor, and why on earth would they?

Christ, this site and the people constantly complaining about such trivial stuff.

 

[Saltychipmunk]

it is a forum dude, the point of forums IS to discuss trivial stuff. We discuss the legit stuff with friends , family, peers , associates... you know people that matter to us. Forums are for killing time.

 

[lacktheknack]

Oh, for the love of...

Do you people ever stop complaining?

No. No, they do not.

Just be glad that Zeel is suspended, otherwise the thread would be in complete and total flames now.

 

[Joccaren]

Seriously? Has this not gotten old yet?

I really have to ask these days, is it worth it?
Is boycotting a game that you would really like to play (Ignore this if you have no interest in ME3, as really this doesn't apply to you) for such a trivial reason as 'Its EA'.
Origin is not spyware. If you use Steam, Facebook, or pretty much any program that connects to the net, and don't think its spyware, then you have no ground to stand on when you call Origin spyware. Do your research, the EULA changed - this is very old news now. Its prices usually aren't as good as Steam's, but you aren't forced to buy off it.
If you don't like Digital Distribution platforms in general and thus don't like Origin, fine. If you have no interest in EA games and thus don't need Origin, fine. If you won't enjoy ME3 as its a poorly designed game or W/E, fine. If your whole reason for avoiding a game you want to get is as trivial as the fact that EA made it, and put it on their platform rather than Steam, I really have to ask - is it worth it? What are you gaining? What are you losing?

 

[gundamrx101]

This news hardly flinches my ps3, I will continue to enjoy the company of steam. <3 you Valve.

 

[legendp]

I've said it 50 times and I'll say it again, this is no different than how Steam first got people to start using it.

Difference being Half Life 2 was single player only. Oh and their servers exploded and nobody could play the game, because they couldn't register their single player only game.

But it's only evil if Origin does it.

Pretty sure everyone hates Origin due to you having to give access to all of your computer files or something like that?

Except you don't, and ten seconds of research will tell you that much.

The EULA is the same as Steam's, but relying on hearsay is much more fun and leads to more people blindly hating something without actually knowing the truth.

Pretty much this. For some reason people use Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, Steam etc etc and fill out all their contact info and upload pictures of themselves - but then EA makes Origin, and suddenly people are concerned about their privacy.

As the dogtrainer said to his trainees, bitches please.

There is a difference, I can choose whether to fill in Facebook details and upload images but origin if wanted could grab them at free will (but I don't think they will). I think origin has access to everything so the can

A) figure out how much of there competitors games you play (wich may not be a bad thing)
B) find people pirating there games (in thoery not a bad thing)

My problem is with the second one, I use a laptop and don't carry a CD wallet around with me and many of my older games and even some of my newer ones are still disk based (meaning I need a disk to play) and then there are the ones that require me to always be connected to the internet, so to get around this I use cracks on my purchased games. I don't want them to get the wrong Idea and ban me from playing that battlefield 3 or mass effect 3 game I just spent $100 AUD on (works out to be about $106 USD), yeah games in australia are very expensive

Maybe I need to do some research but if origin still has access to all my files without my permission I will stay away from it whenever possible, maybe I will just buy the game on 360 (play the multiplayer on that) and download a cracked PC version for single player (that way I am still buying the game)

 

[harvz]

well, im playing through me1 and 2 again, so hopefully by the time im up to me3, hackers will have removed the origin requirement just as they did with battlefield 3 and ill go and buy the key from a shop.

while im not thrilled about origin or steam, steam is what i consider, the only moderately acceptable DRM. it does so much and has so many sales that i tolerate it on my system where as i find it ridiculous with origin, there is no benefit to having on your system or integrated into your games other than DRM, which doesnt work and it is usually easier to pirate the games then buy them. i am not promoting piracy, i am just saying, EA seems to understand their customers less then capcom understand which systems monster hunter would sell best in the western countries (btw, releasing it on wii as opposed to 360/ps3/pc is why it didn't do very well).

 

[veloper]

Have EA stopped blocking Origin users out of their games, over forum related reasons yet?
That's another reason why we should not support Origin.

Of all the things to complain about, you chose this?

Solution: Don't be an asshole on the forums. Better yet, don't visit the useless Origin/EA forums in the first place.

EA will ban you and take your games for common street language that would get you nothing over here at the Escapist, or a warning at worst.
It's completely out of proportion over there. We're talking customers here who paid good money, losing their entire accounts over basicly nothing.
You should never support such a system out of principle.

Even if you don't use EA related forums, a digital distribution platform is based on trust. EA don't care and that does not encourage trust. EA's user agreements protect them against consumers if they decide to pull games for other reasons (such as 2 years after you purchased it). EA will need to fix their reputation first.

 

[Thoric485]

Pfft, same story like DA2. Expect a 5.0 user score on metacritic in a few days.

Honestly, their biggest gain for Origin was BF3, they don't have any other strong PC title.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

Okay, that is IS.

Will someone explain to me WHY im not allowed to like EA games? Some of my favorite games ever released were produced by EA games, yet im not allowed to like them?

What exactly is it that makes EA be hates So damned much That im not allowed to mention mass effect without starting a bleedin' EA hate cult?

Yes, i don't approve of Origin, but i don't Blame EA for it. Steam is successful, so why not give a digital distribution service a shot? Its basic business.

I really don't get it.

 

[winginson]

I used to care deeply about dodgy EULAs and online privacy, but then I realised that basically every 'innocent' program you use you agree to give private data to the company and they can do what they want with it.

While I do agree that companies will basically abuse whatever they have to make money, they all have to keep customers so they don't do anything worse than targeting adverts with it. Should probally be most worried if they tank and sell everthing to the highest bidder.