Anonymous Halts Sony Attacks Affecting PSN Users

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Shirokurou said:
I'll be honest, I don't agree with Anonymous on their war.

But they have my respect for keeping the civilians out of it.
How are they "keeping the civilians out of it" when they're seeking dox on the children of Sony executives? Those children aren't armed combatants in the war. They're unarmed civilians.
 

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JDKJ said:
Shirokurou said:
I'll be honest, I don't agree with Anonymous on their war.

But they have my respect for keeping the civilians out of it.
How are they "keeping the civilians out of it" when they're seeking dox on the children of Sony executives? Those children aren't armed combatants in the war. They're unarmed civilians.
OK, I have been misinformed and stand corrected.
That respect just evaporated.
 

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JDKJ said:
I was thinking, given that they left "Chocolate Rain" on the Judge's voice-mail, next up will be knocking on Sony's door and running away before anyone can open the door.
That would be hilarious.
 

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Emergent said:
JDKJ said:
I was thinking, given that they left "Chocolate Rain" on the Judge's voice-mail, next up will be knocking on Sony's door and running away before anyone can open the door.
That would be hilarious.
Yep, it would be. It has been said that "hilarious" is the first cousin of "retarded."
 

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Yep, it would be.
See, we agree on something after all.
Oh, I'm sure that there are countless points on which we can agree. However and unfortunately, my vastly superior knowledge of the law tends to preclude the possibility that any of those points will be legal in matter.
 

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I say go for it Anon, a lot of people get to upper positions in these companies and believe that they are untouchable. Show them that in the real world putting your "penis in the hive" is a bad idea.
Although, I will maintain that the attack was premature and should've waited to see the actual outcome of the trial in question. If they waited now it would be cool, but kinda impossible as it would look like they're bitching out.
"Failing to plan is planning to fail" kinda fits anon right now.
 

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Sarge034 said:
World English Dictionary

terrorism
- n
1. systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal


Legal Dictionary

Main Entry: terrorism
Function: noun
1 : the unlawful use or threat of violence esp. against the state or the public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion

Anonymous=Terrorists
Soooooo George Washington, Joan D'Arc and Oliver Cromwell where all terrorists?
Damn well I guess I have to hate them all now.

Anonymous apologising for something!?!?!?
Excuse me why I go and keep an eye out for Death, War, Pestilence and Famine.
 

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Joe Deadman said:
Sarge034 said:
World English Dictionary

terrorism
- n
1. systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve some goal


Legal Dictionary

Main Entry: terrorism
Function: noun
1 : the unlawful use or threat of violence esp. against the state or the public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion

Anonymous=Terrorists
Soooooo George Washington, Joan D'Arc and Oliver Cromwell where all terrorists?
Damn well I guess I have to hate them all now.

Anonymous apologising for something!?!?!?
Excuse me why I go and keep an eye out for Death, War, Pestilence and Famine.
Ask the average Irishman what they think of Oliver Cromwell and they'll most likely tell you that not only was he a "terrorist," he was a genocidal fuck-wad.

As for Joan of Arc, she has an insanity defense -- as does everyone else who claims that God speaks directly to them.
 

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If I was an executive at Sony right now, I would try to find some way to hold the userbase hostage in order to get rid of anonymous.
Something like PSN mysteriously going under "maintenance" every time Sony is under an attack.
I think it would be pretty obvious after a few times, and holding the userbase hostage would probably cause a boycott.
Stop using realism to poke holes in evil plans >_<

I wouldn't hold them hostage because it's a realistic solution. I would hold them hostage because I love power.
 

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JDKJ said:
my vastly superior knowledge of the law tends to preclude the possibility that any of those points will be legal in matter.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, babe. Made my day though, lol!
 

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Emergent said:
JDKJ said:
my vastly superior knowledge of the law tends to preclude the possibility that any of those points will be legal in matter.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, babe. Made my day though, lol!
See there. Yet more common ground betwixt us: a mutual appreciation of a good laugh out loud.

And don't take your inability to outsmart me on legal matters as any negative reflection on yourself. No more than the fact that Manny Pacquiao will knock you out in :30 of the first round if you were foolish enough to get in a ring with him would reflect negatively on you. He's a pro, you're a rank amateur. That you'd end up on your back was simply a foregone conclusion.
 

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arc1991 said:
Ok i'm lost...why are anonns attacking Sony?...

I would of thought Microsoft would of been a prime target...
Because Sony's been a huge douchenozzle lately. The GeoHot thing has caused Sony to turn into digital Nazi's.

Microsoft doesn't care if people hack their products. Just looking on this site you'll be able to seehow many people have hacked the Kinect to do other things.
 

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VanityGirl said:
arc1991 said:
Ok i'm lost...why are anonns attacking Sony?...

I would of thought Microsoft would of been a prime target...
Because Sony's been a huge douchenozzle lately. The GeoHot thing has caused Sony to turn into digital Nazi's.

Microsoft doesn't care if people hack their products. Just looking on this site you'll be able to seehow many people have hacked the Kinect to do other things.
Do the Kinect hacks allow you to play pirated games? If they don't, then you've got an apple in one of your hands and an orange in the other. And I'm willing to bet that if a Kinect hack could advance the possibility of playing pirated games, as does Georgie Boy's PS3 hack, Microsoft would be quick to do something to nix that possibility.

Wasn't it Microsoft that took steps to block unlicensed peripherals from the 360?
 

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Mackheath said:
Jonluw said:
Mackheath said:
Jonluw said:
If I was an executive at Sony right now, I would try to find some way to hold the userbase hostage in order to get rid of anonymous.
Something like PSN mysteriously going under "maintenance" every time Sony is under an attack.
I think it would be pretty obvious after a few times, and holding the userbase hostage would probably cause a boycott.
Stop using realism to poke holes in evil plans >_<

I wouldn't hold them hostage because it's a realistic solution. I would hold them hostage because I love power.
Hey, we either iron out the plot holes now or they fuck up the story later.
What, so you mean I have to cut out the part of the plan where I explain it to anonymous, while waiting for my machine that is going to turn their Guy Fawkes masks into acid to boot?
 

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JDKJ said:
VanityGirl said:
arc1991 said:
Ok i'm lost...why are anonns attacking Sony?...

I would of thought Microsoft would of been a prime target...
Because Sony's been a huge douchenozzle lately. The GeoHot thing has caused Sony to turn into digital Nazi's.

Microsoft doesn't care if people hack their products. Just looking on this site you'll be able to seehow many people have hacked the Kinect to do other things.
Do the Kinect hacks allow you to play pirated games? If they don't, then you've got an apple in one of your hands and an orange in the other. And I'm willing to bet that if a Kinect hack could advance the possibility of playing pirated games, as does Georgie Boy's PS3 hack, Microsoft would be quick to do something to nix that possibility.

Wasn't it Microsoft that took steps to block unlicensed peripherals from the 360?
And he we reach our problem. The most well known PS3 hacker doesn't pirate games. He doesn't condone piracy either. GeoHotz attacks could lead to piracy, but that does not mean that everyone will use it to pirate game. If GeoHotz said, "Hey guys, I'm going to do this so you all can pirate gamas" then it would be a different story.

*shrug*
 

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VanityGirl said:
JDKJ said:
VanityGirl said:
arc1991 said:
Ok i'm lost...why are anonns attacking Sony?...

I would of thought Microsoft would of been a prime target...
Because Sony's been a huge douchenozzle lately. The GeoHot thing has caused Sony to turn into digital Nazi's.

Microsoft doesn't care if people hack their products. Just looking on this site you'll be able to seehow many people have hacked the Kinect to do other things.
Do the Kinect hacks allow you to play pirated games? If they don't, then you've got an apple in one of your hands and an orange in the other. And I'm willing to bet that if a Kinect hack could advance the possibility of playing pirated games, as does Georgie Boy's PS3 hack, Microsoft would be quick to do something to nix that possibility.

Wasn't it Microsoft that took steps to block unlicensed peripherals from the 360?
And he we reach our problem. The most well known PS3 hacker doesn't pirate games. He doesn't condone piracy either. GeoHotz attacks could lead to piracy, but that does not mean that everyone will use it to pirate game. If GeoHotz said, "Hey guys, I'm going to do this so you all can pirate gamas" then it would be a different story.

*shrug*
Hotz can claim he doesn't pirate games. He can also claim he doesn't condone piracy. Good for him. But he's still left with the fact that 5,700 unique IP addresses in the State of California alone visited his website and downloaded his file with information and instructions on how to hack a PS3 and enable it to both run Linux and play pirated games. He can swear on a six-foot high stack of Bibles that he published his hack file only to allow others to run Linux but no sane person's gonna buy the possibility that there were all of 5,700 persons in the State of California alone who were interested in running Linux on their PS3s. And no sane person's gonna buy the possibility that ol' Georgie Boy didn't know that the vast majority of those 5,700 persons in California who were downloading his hack file were doing so in order to hack their PS3s in order to play pirated games rather than to run Linux. That story simply isn't credible. Hotz doesn't have to -- and no one should really expect him to -- admit that he knew full well that what he was doing was furthering piracy. But the fact still remains that there are 5,700 reasons to conclude that he was furthering piracy. And if the obvious conclusion to be drawn is that he was furthering piracy, then -- to put it in fancy legal terms -- he's fucked.

And he's fucked in a very real sense because he'll be liable for contributory infringement (i.e., facilitating the infringement by others of a copyrighted work), the minimum penalty for which is $250 per instance of infringement and, if we charitably subtract from the 5,700 downloaders 1,000 downloaders on the assumption that those 1,000 downloaders were in fact persons who were interested in running Linux and not interested in pirating games, and then multiple the remaining 4,700 downloaders by the $250 minimum penalty, on the assumption that those downloaders were interested in playing pirated games and had no interest in running Linux and did in fact use the download to play pirated games, ol' Georgie Boy's looking at more than $1,000,000 in penalties. Ouch! And that calculation is based on the possible infringers in California alone, it doesn't include possible infringers in the other 49 states. But I'm sure that if Georgie Boy looks under his sofa cushions, he'll find more than enough loose change to cover his multi-million dollar penalties.
 

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I find it funny how Anonymous feels like they have such a great impact on what's going on. In all likelihood, barely anyone noticed any change in the service at all
Good point. No matter how much they try to do the chances are that their actions will have no meaningful impact, especially in the long run.