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JET1971

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Justank said:
Good points. Also Anonymous is growing. It has gone beyond a few dozen on 4chan to many hundreds across the globe. by years end there might be thousands. This is how revolutions begin, and since there are thousands upon thousands of people who are disatisfied with the status quo and sick of politicians fucking them over across the world... Yeah we are ripe for a revolution. I just hope it doesnt end up being violant.
 

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CardinalPiggles said:
Hammartroll said:
If this is our plan to break the system then I'm all for it.
What's wrong with the current system? Obviously there are a few discrepancies, but the world is not in a state of chaos, and that is fine with me.



I cant fucking read that!
Our money is worthless since there is nothing to back it up, some people even believe there's actually no gold in Fort Knox anymore cause we sold it, but green paper won't help you when the economy callopses. Learning to buy and sell without the government's notes could be important.

As for growing your own food, research Monsanto and you'll understand. I actually made a thread about how Anonymous recently took down a Monsanto site: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.290930-Rally-round-the-family-Anonymous-takes-down-Monsanto-site
 

KhakiHat

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Worgen said:
really anon and lulsec can only poke so hard before the internet will become a very scary place
Then you barely scratched the surface of the interwebs. Stop by the SecurityNOW web site and listen to some nice podcasts.
 

Mike Richards

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Anonymous was created by the internet. They rebelled. They evolved. They look, and feel, intelligent. Some are programed to think they are intelligent. There are many copies, but no leader.

And they have a plan.

Seriously, first thing I thought of when I saw that.
 

CardinalPiggles

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Hammartroll said:
CardinalPiggles said:
Hammartroll said:
If this is our plan to break the system then I'm all for it.
What's wrong with the current system? Obviously there are a few discrepancies, but the world is not in a state of chaos, and that is fine with me.



I cant fucking read that!
Our money is worthless since there is nothing to back it up, some people even believe there's actually no gold in Fort Knox anymore cause we sold it, but green paper won't help you when the economy callopses. Learning to buy and sell without the government's notes could be important.

As for growing your own food, research Monsanto and you'll understand. I actually made a thread about how Anonymous recently took down a Monsanto site: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.290930-Rally-round-the-family-Anonymous-takes-down-Monsanto-site
Oh right, Okay, so ermm, what's wrong with the current system? Sorry but all you said was that I would be fucked if the current system collapsed...
 

FalloutJack

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Unless this plan involves a trojan bunny rabbit or a large wooden badger, I'm not on board.
 

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zehydra said:
"Anonymous has a plan"

which means some dude with Adobe Premiere is uploading videos to youtube and calling himself Anon.
Exactly. The fact that people are treating this as a real statement from anonymous is dumber than the anything this video has to say.
 

Aris Khandr

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I like other people dealing with my food. That's what I pay them money for. That way, when I see a cute cow, I don't have to look at it and figure out where the best places to slice off food are. I can just hug it and rub its nose a bit. Much, much better.
 

Hammartroll

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CardinalPiggles said:
Hammartroll said:
CardinalPiggles said:
Hammartroll said:
If this is our plan to break the system then I'm all for it.
What's wrong with the current system? Obviously there are a few discrepancies, but the world is not in a state of chaos, and that is fine with me.



I cant fucking read that!
Our money is worthless since there is nothing to back it up, some people even believe there's actually no gold in Fort Knox anymore cause we sold it, but green paper won't help you when the economy callopses. Learning to buy and sell without the government's notes could be important.

As for growing your own food, research Monsanto and you'll understand. I actually made a thread about how Anonymous recently took down a Monsanto site: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.290930-Rally-round-the-family-Anonymous-takes-down-Monsanto-site
Oh right, Okay, so ermm, what's wrong with the current system? Sorry but all you said was that I would be fucked if the current system collapsed...
It's a control system. The value of our currency does not lie in a solid discernible object or law, but the opinion of those who control it, which is the national bank. They essentially have a kill switch called inflation, where if they raise it they kill the value of our currency. When we use a fiat currency our ability to buy and sell in the world market is controlled by those who printed it, but they can't control the value of something born of the Earth.

As for Monsanto, they're trying to control all food production by making their seeds the only way to grow food, at least on a national scale... they're "plan" hasn't fully been realized yet, but if they ever achieve this "monopoly" of food production, your ability to buy food is controled by someone's opinion... but they can't control YOUR ability to grow food. But even at this time, if Monsanto decides to use their kill switch by deciding to no longer produce seeds then the thousands of lives of 3rd worlders that depend on our support is immediately put in jeopardy.
 

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I loled, this is just pathetic. Anon needs to look past the internet. Revolutions take place on the streets in front of capital buildings, not in front of a glowing rectangle. And what the fuck is up with the damn speech and bad camera? I mean, I can seriously see LRR doing a spoof of this with a better camera and acting than this.
 

Charli

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Well all I got out of that was "Indie movie maker wants attention, uses anonymous as attention grabber."

...I get the feeling I'm not wrong.
 

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Whenever an Individual or an Organisation uses the Term "the Truth" ,ie: Words offer the means to meaning and for those willing to listen the Annunciation of truth and the truth is there is something terribly wrong with the world, i am reminded of 2 Quotes


"Truths cannot be acquired from words out of other people?s mouths. Before Truths can be internalized, they must come from one?s own realizations and practices. Through a lifetime of personal practice, human beings are capable of revealing all of the secrets of the cosmic essence. You are your own best judge."
Buddha


"Say not, I have found the truth, but rather, I have found a truth. Say not, I have found the path of the soul, Say rather, I have met the soul walking upon my path. For the soul walks upon all paths. The soul walks not upon a line, neither does it grow like a reed"
Kahlil Gibran
 

briunj04

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I still want to see a full out e-war between Anonymous and Lulzsec.
For some reason that seems so epic to me (T.T) A classic battle of good versus evil. I'm talkin' The Red Sox vs The Yankees. I'm talkin' Hulk Hogan vs Andre the Giant. I'm talkin' Hitler vs everybody!
(Talking Classics FTW)

OT: I'm scared (o_o)
 

viranimus

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Well i would point out that it is also directly quoting from the Matrix as well. Specifically from Neo's first meeting with Morpheus.

It does seem a tad bit off of what Anon has been all about, but it is entirely possible with the deviation that is LulzSec the more comedic element of Anon might be gone and in its place remains a more serious notion.

IF that is the case. Good. Im always up for someone rattling cages. I know the US was founded on the notion of constant revolution. Perhaps not violent revolution, but social revolution.
 
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Wait a minute...Couldn't I just announce my grocery list as "Anonymous' New Plan" right now and it would just as valid? I mean, if I say I'm Anonymous, then I am, so technically I can speak for them just as legitimately as anyone else. Hell, let's give a shot:

Anonymous' Plan now consists of the following:

Sandwich Bread
Cereal
Milk
Ketchup
Toilet Paper
Lotion
Kleenex
Doritos
Peanut Butter
Soda


Anonymous has SPOKEN!!!
 

KarlMonster

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Was this an entry in the debate of Republican presidential candidates in America? That kind of speech without reason is pretty common around here.

Anonymous = nobody takes responsibility for this nonsense. Except you HammarTroll.
 

Korolev

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Yeah, learn to grow our own food - can't hurt right?
Except that organic food cannot sustain the population of the Earth. I've done research in to this: Organic farms are INCREDIBLY inefficient. If everyone shifted to organic farming, huge segments of the population would up and die of starvation because growing your own food isn't easy and it isn't as cheap as you think.

Okay, let's say everyone has their own garden for which to grow food. Do you actually realize how difficult it is to maintain a large crop? Without proper equipment (which costs money to manufacture and maintain and fuel to operate?), it is VERY difficult to keep pests out, and to ensure that the crops grow well.

But let's say you can grow all your own food - can your neighbours? What if they have bad soil? What if they have a 9-5 job and CAN'T take the time out to grow and look after their crops? Farming is a serious business - it's not "Hey, take a few carrot seeds and put em into the ground!" You might be able to grow your crops successfully once - that doesn't mean you always will or that your neighbours always will. That is why we need large, multiple farms because we need safeguards against drought, floods, bad soil and disease.

If you knew even a shred of history you'd realize that people in "ye olden days" didn't have it so nice. Starvation was a very, very real risk 600 years ago and a LOT of people died from it. If things really were so great and wonderful back in the primitive ages, why did we need to invent technology? If humanity truly WAS so happy and joyful back in the medieval ages, why is it that the population of Earth increased from just over 1 billion, to very nearly 7 billion now, in the space of only a few decades? Back in the 1950's, the Earth's population was a grand 3 Billion. Back in the 1900's, it was over 1 Billion. Over 250,000 years of human civilization, using "traditional farming methods" only got us to 1 Billion, but NOW, with SCIENCE we have extended the human lifespan to the amount that we now have nearly 7 billion on this earth. Science, Engineering and Modern Agriculture have done more to save human lives in 50 years than all the stupid ancient farmers managed to do in over 250,000 years, and that's an indisputable FACT. There exists NO OTHER explanation for the massive population increase. You can argue that over-population is a problem, and I agree with you, but you can't argue with the fact that modern agriculture and science has given humanity more than it has ever had at any other period of time in history.

So no - we don't need to grow our own food. That is what the farm is for. Just like we don't need to skin our own animals to make leather clothes, agriculture has become a specialized practice. I've been eating modern food my entire life. I'm not sick nor do I have cancer, and neither does anyone I know.

As for the whole "Get us back to the gold standard" - why? Why is gold seen as something so valuable? You realize that intrinsically, gold is not the most valuable mineral on earth. Platinum actually has more industrial applications - so why not shift to the platinum standard? Gold is rare and shiny - it has a few industrial applications but on the whole, it isn't that useful. Neither is silver. People just declared that these minerals had value because they were used in jewellery.

Tying wealth to gold is just stupid, since there's far to wealth than gold. Wealth can be found in almost any material good, and sometimes in non-material things like information. It's a bit silly to say "I'm worth the amount of gold I have in my bank". I don't have a single gram of gold but I have a lot of material possessions and I have a wealth of knowledge in my brain that's worth more than gold.

This fascination with gold continues to perplex me - it's not, when you get down to it, really all that valuable. It's only people's PERCEPTION of gold that makes it valuable. Diamonds are rarer and even more valuable - why don't we shift to the Diamond Standard!? Because that would be stupid.

If you say that modern currency is worth nothing because it is based on perception, realize that gold is only valuable because of perception. Honestly, Uranium is worth more than gold. Coal is worth more than gold. Platinum has more industrial applications than gold.
 

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zehydra said:
"Anonymous has a plan"

which means some dude with Adobe Premiere is uploading videos to youtube and calling himself Anon.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
 

CardinalPiggles

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Hammartroll said:
It's a control system. The value of our currency does not lie in a solid discernible object or law, but the opinion of those who control it, which is the national bank. They essentially have a kill switch called inflation, where if they raise it they kill the value of our currency. When we use a fiat currency our ability to buy and sell in the world market is controlled by those who printed it, but they can't control the value of something born of the Earth.

As for Monsanto, they're trying to control all food production by making their seeds the only way to grow food, at least on a national scale... they're "plan" hasn't fully been realized yet, but if they ever achieve this "monopoly" of food production, your ability to buy food is controled by someone's opinion... but they can't control YOUR ability to grow food. But even at this time, if Monsanto decides to use their kill switch by deciding to no longer produce seeds then the thousands of lives of 3rd worlders that depend on our support is immediately put in jeopardy.
Seriously, I think you (and Anon for that matter) need to grow up, someone else is controlling our civilisation, oh no, a revolution is in order. No, being controlled is not a bad thing, let the government handle things, as long as I get to make myself enough money to survive, and thrive, what more could I ask for...

Also, who says that destabilising the government will make us better off, faceless idealists? oh please, why do you think they are considered rebels, because they are 'the good guys'?

I think Anon is just pissed off because they cant do whatever the hell they want, like pirating and hacking and other illegal activities.