If they say they didn't do it then that is where they 'officially' stand on the issue, the person/people who did are therefore separate from anon on this matter even if they would have been part of the collective when warring against say scientology.
Anonymous still says it wasn't them.
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If I remember correctly, when people first started to point fingers at Anon, they came out and said that They didnt do it. I beleive that they went further to say that it may have been some of their members, but if it was it was not an action sanctioned by the group as a whole, and that those members would have been acting on their own accord.
Of course, by that logic, if Anonymous is made up of 100 people then 99 of them could have been taking down the PSN while the 100th was blogging that they didnt do it as anonymous...
If I remember correctly, when people first started to point fingers at Anon, they came out and said that They didnt do it. I beleive that they went further to say that it may have been some of their members, but if it was it was not an action sanctioned by the group as a whole, and that those members would have been acting on their own accord.
Of course, by that logic, if Anonymous is made up of 100 people then 99 of them could have been taking down the PSN while the 100th was blogging that they didnt do it as anonymous...
Its a piece of paper with the goals and rules printed on. Its kinda like...hmm..samurai code I guess?Andronicus said:
Every Operation is more of an political group where people belive in the same ideals and if they dont then clearly they're not part of that political group. If single guy yells "FUCK YEAH! LETS BE COMMUNIST!" that doesnt mean everyone have to agree with him.
If Anonymous had done it, wouldn't they have more likely replaced the PSN log in screen with Goatse?
Or 'that' video.
Or 'that' video.
You know what would be super cool? If Anon actually went out and found the hacker themselves. I'm positive it'd be well within their power, and that's the best sort of PR they could get right now.
Course, I see no reason as to why they'd want to, unless the majority of them were personally affected by the PSN hack themselves. I highly doubt they give a rat's arse what everybody else thinks of them anyway, as to whether or not they hacked PSN themselves.
Still, just a funny thought. Sony all but pointing the finger at Anon, then all of a sudden Anon are like "we've got your man right here", while Sony mumbles a half-hearted thankyou under its breath.
Course, I see no reason as to why they'd want to, unless the majority of them were personally affected by the PSN hack themselves. I highly doubt they give a rat's arse what everybody else thinks of them anyway, as to whether or not they hacked PSN themselves.
Still, just a funny thought. Sony all but pointing the finger at Anon, then all of a sudden Anon are like "we've got your man right here", while Sony mumbles a half-hearted thankyou under its breath.
There are two possibilities here.
First is you have either a rogue anon, or just a hacker(s) in general not affiliated with anon.
Second is that this is an intentional stunt that Sony underestimated just how out of control it would get and is now in a position that they have to have ANYONE be the scapegoat.
Honestly I find the latter infinitely more likely. Anon had no reason to do this. But with Sonys Anti piracy crusade... they had all the reason in the world to think pulling a stunt like this would yeild benefits. They, again, just miscalculated what peoples response would be,.
EDIT: Hey alright 2k.. Yaa... why do I feel old now?
First is you have either a rogue anon, or just a hacker(s) in general not affiliated with anon.
Second is that this is an intentional stunt that Sony underestimated just how out of control it would get and is now in a position that they have to have ANYONE be the scapegoat.
Honestly I find the latter infinitely more likely. Anon had no reason to do this. But with Sonys Anti piracy crusade... they had all the reason in the world to think pulling a stunt like this would yeild benefits. They, again, just miscalculated what peoples response would be,.
EDIT: Hey alright 2k.. Yaa... why do I feel old now?
I think the person that planted the 'Anonymous' file is just trying to frame Anon and get the suspicion away from them.
That would be highly entertaining. They've partaken in cyber-vigilantism before, haven't they? When they got that kid arrested for torturing a cat? Admittedly a whole different kettle of fish, but I'm sure they could pull it off. Then again, messing with organized crime is somewhat more dangerous than messing with the US Government, The Church of Scientology or a multinational corporation.Andronicus said:
Well Anon is all about the lulz, while credit card theft is more like a con job for a nice paycheck.
Saying it was or wasn't them in the end doesn't matter, maybe some of them were involved and they don't know themselves, obviously someone had a plan to steal some shit.
Saying it was or wasn't them in the end doesn't matter, maybe some of them were involved and they don't know themselves, obviously someone had a plan to steal some shit.
I don't see Anon as the kind of organization that helps out a someone like Sony, who has billions of dollars and lawyers and whatevers. A company who maybe decided that keeping more money in their pockets instead of protecting the customers who supported that same company?
I think they put into "" for a reason.GiantRaven said:
But I don't really think Anon did it. If they took PSN down and just left it at that, maybe, but I wouldn't think twice about them stealing credit card info.
Even if one of the members did it, that doesn't mean that the group was responsible. wow, I just stood up for anonymous. Maybe that's why its so cold in here: hell just froze over.Andronicus said: