Anthropomorphism in Reality
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Waste of good science. Wouldn't curing cancer be a better use of the genetic professionals working on the Anthro team?
If it meant Kyle's dad from south park could be a dolphin I'm all for it, but if we're turning pets into humans that's fucked up, and it would be annoying. I mean, we're going to have to hear 'this store isn't suitable for elephant men' or 'that bastard won't give me guitar lessons no matter how much money I give him.' "but he don't got no thumbs". Skip it.
Apart from the sudden surge in trends and fetishes, some people here have a point as to whether or not it would be ethical.
However, I would point out that crossbreeding and splicing genes in things (even plants) constitutes the creation of new life that nature did not create on it's own. Ethical concerns are certainly an issue, but it would seem like they might be more along a religious boundary rather than simple common ethics. I won't attack any faiths in particular, but I will use the phrase 'Playing God'
It's an interesting phrase to use, as we already 'Play God' to some extent. We've bred dogs to fulfill certain roles in our society, we've bred roses to have different colors. It's all the same act of 'Playing God', it's just not as prominent as this would be.
Another person said that it would violate the new creations 'rights'. I don't mean to be rude, but knowing our own spotty history when it comes to new arrivals and their 'rights'. I would like to direct attention to the "building a Mosque near the World Trade Center area." Muslims are the latest in a line of cultures/minorities/ etc. that have been persecuted. It was once the Irish, who now are as American as apple pie and such, there were the Puerto Ricans, and not to mention another very prominent group, the African-Americans. All these groups came to America, but their 'rights' had to be grandfathered in over time. Much like these new additions to society would have to be. Heck, it might even get violent were they to become public.
I'd say, in a perfect world where people tolerate one another easily and openly, it would be a wonderful thing for many people, and if not wonderful, it would at least make walking down the street very colorful and interesting. In our existence, it's more likely to cause tons of issues that won't get resolved until centuries of exploitation and abuse die down to where it simply becomes normal to subjugate them, or it becomes normal to have them around.
However, I would point out that crossbreeding and splicing genes in things (even plants) constitutes the creation of new life that nature did not create on it's own. Ethical concerns are certainly an issue, but it would seem like they might be more along a religious boundary rather than simple common ethics. I won't attack any faiths in particular, but I will use the phrase 'Playing God'
It's an interesting phrase to use, as we already 'Play God' to some extent. We've bred dogs to fulfill certain roles in our society, we've bred roses to have different colors. It's all the same act of 'Playing God', it's just not as prominent as this would be.
Another person said that it would violate the new creations 'rights'. I don't mean to be rude, but knowing our own spotty history when it comes to new arrivals and their 'rights'. I would like to direct attention to the "building a Mosque near the World Trade Center area." Muslims are the latest in a line of cultures/minorities/ etc. that have been persecuted. It was once the Irish, who now are as American as apple pie and such, there were the Puerto Ricans, and not to mention another very prominent group, the African-Americans. All these groups came to America, but their 'rights' had to be grandfathered in over time. Much like these new additions to society would have to be. Heck, it might even get violent were they to become public.
I'd say, in a perfect world where people tolerate one another easily and openly, it would be a wonderful thing for many people, and if not wonderful, it would at least make walking down the street very colorful and interesting. In our existence, it's more likely to cause tons of issues that won't get resolved until centuries of exploitation and abuse die down to where it simply becomes normal to subjugate them, or it becomes normal to have them around.
i'm saying if we could give rescue teams dog-like senses instead of having a team of dogs leading another team of people.AugustFall said:
actually, your pre-edit comment was pretty much what i was thinking of. when i say surgery, i'm meaning some form of complex surgery to do what you mentioned.falconsgyre said:
actually, you are the exact same problem. an anthro bear has claws, but it would be an actual human in there. if Obama became an anthro bear he wouldnt just say 'i have control over nukes which i'm not exploiting but claws? crazy time.' at least claws cant misfire and kill your family from across a room. plus, as the claws could get in the way when using computers/playing games, they might start filing them like nails or retracting them if they can.HT_Black said:
human -> hybrid: they can do whatever they want to themselves
animal -> hybrid: unnecessary and cruel, but... for science
animal -> hybrid: unnecessary and cruel, but... for science
GAHAHAHAHA OMFG You just made my day with that statement. Hehehe OH God yes. Just to see the expression on people's faces at furries in real life would be enough for me.Durgiun said:
All the more reason to try and prevent it.....the last thing we need is a Manbat.....and plus we don't have a Batman.Marik2 said:
We are deeply screwed
Wait.......that means....HOLY SHIT I can finally be Reptile from Mortal Kombat!!!FalloutJack said:
Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to go buy a green ninja outfit
Except that they would be born like that rather than being fused. It would be ingrained into their DNA rather than having been imposed on them in later life.Kahunaburger said:
I would personally be interested to see how much we could improve genetic modification with it. It would be cool if we could then give them things like wings and increased strength and agility etc.
I was thinking more along the lines of "Gradually-overpowering-instincts-lead-to-the-collapse-of-intellect-and-puts-a-bunch-of-loony-furries-with-no-identity-beyond-their-bodies-thing". I'd explain more, but my material of choice is far from palatable; if you want it I can PM it to you, though.TrilbyWill said:
You know what... I don't care. People saying it's inhumane need to probably think about it more. A human changing themself is their own choice. An animal being changed into a Human would allow them to fit into our human life, and have in general a better way of living. Jesus H Christ, everyone seems to over-react a EVERYTHING these days. Not like this is gonna happen anyway...
[Side-note]: Can I just say... Tell me having hybrid cat/human legs and jumping like a pro wouldn't be awesome.
[Side-note]: Can I just say... Tell me having hybrid cat/human legs and jumping like a pro wouldn't be awesome.
im not sure why the alterations would affect their sanity (is that in this 'material', if it is then PM me it). plus, if science did this, they would obviously work on medication to combat these problems or else they wouldnt do it.HT_Black said:
There are benefits you know... They are at the very least studying sharks and alligators to help find ways to cure diseases in mankind. Alligators (and species of the like) for example have extreme resistance to disease and infection. They can live in the crummiest of waters and get their limbs ripped off and not get an infection.
From what I understand they're looking at sharks to understand something about preventing cancer but I don't know as much about that stuff.
So yeah, anthro or not, there ARE benefits to bringing things of other animals into ourselves. I doubt they'd be as cutesy wootsy as people draw furries however. I can't imagine us finding use in becoming hybrids with chipmunks, foxes or wolves.
And people who say it would be "inhumane" should go be quiet in the corner if they think breeding hybrids is more inhumane than say boiling pigs alive for the slaughter because it gets the hair off quicker. Sorry but seriously, breeding hybrids would be far from the most inhumane thing we've done to animals xD;
From what I understand they're looking at sharks to understand something about preventing cancer but I don't know as much about that stuff.
So yeah, anthro or not, there ARE benefits to bringing things of other animals into ourselves. I doubt they'd be as cutesy wootsy as people draw furries however. I can't imagine us finding use in becoming hybrids with chipmunks, foxes or wolves.
And people who say it would be "inhumane" should go be quiet in the corner if they think breeding hybrids is more inhumane than say boiling pigs alive for the slaughter because it gets the hair off quicker. Sorry but seriously, breeding hybrids would be far from the most inhumane thing we've done to animals xD;
How far would this go? Would it be physical so that we look like an animal-human hybrid or would it be we retain are human features but have animal abilities? Could we regrow limbs like certain lizards?
It depends on what they were created for and what you mean by your statement. If it is started from an embryo then I would see two reasons for it. If for a cheap source of labor/slavery then I'd be against it. If it was creating a sentient being I wouldn't mind so long as they were treated with the same rights as every human being is.
If its just a cosmetic/genetic/whatever change for the human involved and it was voluntary then I wouldn't mind the same way I currently don't mind if people have cosmetic surgery now.
If its just a cosmetic/genetic/whatever change for the human involved and it was voluntary then I wouldn't mind the same way I currently don't mind if people have cosmetic surgery now.