Anti-Smoking Group Opens Fear Clinic in Minecraft

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Yopaz said:
Xan Krieger said:
Yopaz said:
Xan Krieger said:
Is it bad I want to join and build a giant cigarette right next to it?
"They also believe that non-smoking ads have little to no effect."
That's true, they just piss me off and make me want to smoke out of spite.
Honestly, I have never smoked, never had the desire to smoke, never think I will smoke and I try to keep a distance from people or at least in the correct wind so I don't breathe in too much of it when I do and I agree with you.

I hate anti-smoking ads, I hate the scare tactics, I hate the bloated statistics and fault conclusions in so many of them. Give people the information about the dangers, label the packages and let people choose. I don't need to see a smokers lung or brain to know smoking is harmful and the truth is that quite a few would be disgusted just seeing a healthy man's lung anyway, smoker or not.

In the best case I think that anti-smoking ads have much the same effect as a bad hangover. You swear you'll never drink again, but then it passes and you break that promise and you drink again. Worst case scenario would be smoking out of spite.
Here's the way I work, I smoke or drink as a coping mechanism to deal with stress so the only way to get me to stop would be to remove the stress. How to do that I don't know. If I ever found that out I'd do it only recreationally, drinking and smoking with friends who do it instead of feeling the intense urge to do it when I feel stressed.
We all need ways to deal with stress and I empathize more with any smoker than any of those hardcore anti-smoking people out there. I don't feel the desire nor the need, that doesn't mean I want it to go away. If it is eating unhealthy food, smoking, drinking of my personal one, coffee we all find out ways to deal with stress. Now I am currently on that high note since coffee is currently believed to reduce risk of heart diseases unlike smoking and sugar which is being treated as more deadly than cyanide right now, but it's all the same.

If it were hurting me and someone informed me about it I would still need to deal with the stress somehow. You have smoking, I have coffee and I respect your decision and I loathe the anti-smoking people. Over here they recently made it so you can't smoke at a bus stop. Nor can you smoke on government property and not during work hours. I don't like it despite the fact that I don't like smoking. I can avoid smokers while they smoke without any problems.
Funny thing is if you were to smoke in a building and it gets in the rug and walls what do you tell people who are allergic to it. Like me for example, I had to at least crack my window or blast the AC for the first few years I had my first car because of how much my parents smoked in it. I don't care if people smoke honestly, but don't expect me to be happy if I have to deal with dry mouth or coughing because you want to smoke inside (I flat out refused to drive with my dad if he smoked because I was coughing so much it was screwing with my driving). It's not like you drinking coffee can cause a allergic reaction to the person next to you.

Also that "I can avoid smokers while they smoke without any problems" is interesting. Because if my Team Lead had his way and could smoke right next to me as much as he does in our section I would have to request moving to another part of that room. And the funny part is each team as at least one smoker so no you can't really avoid it.
 

Yopaz

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BoredRolePlayer said:
Yopaz said:
Xan Krieger said:
Yopaz said:
Xan Krieger said:
Is it bad I want to join and build a giant cigarette right next to it?
"They also believe that non-smoking ads have little to no effect."
That's true, they just piss me off and make me want to smoke out of spite.
Honestly, I have never smoked, never had the desire to smoke, never think I will smoke and I try to keep a distance from people or at least in the correct wind so I don't breathe in too much of it when I do and I agree with you.

I hate anti-smoking ads, I hate the scare tactics, I hate the bloated statistics and fault conclusions in so many of them. Give people the information about the dangers, label the packages and let people choose. I don't need to see a smokers lung or brain to know smoking is harmful and the truth is that quite a few would be disgusted just seeing a healthy man's lung anyway, smoker or not.

In the best case I think that anti-smoking ads have much the same effect as a bad hangover. You swear you'll never drink again, but then it passes and you break that promise and you drink again. Worst case scenario would be smoking out of spite.
Here's the way I work, I smoke or drink as a coping mechanism to deal with stress so the only way to get me to stop would be to remove the stress. How to do that I don't know. If I ever found that out I'd do it only recreationally, drinking and smoking with friends who do it instead of feeling the intense urge to do it when I feel stressed.
We all need ways to deal with stress and I empathize more with any smoker than any of those hardcore anti-smoking people out there. I don't feel the desire nor the need, that doesn't mean I want it to go away. If it is eating unhealthy food, smoking, drinking of my personal one, coffee we all find out ways to deal with stress. Now I am currently on that high note since coffee is currently believed to reduce risk of heart diseases unlike smoking and sugar which is being treated as more deadly than cyanide right now, but it's all the same.

If it were hurting me and someone informed me about it I would still need to deal with the stress somehow. You have smoking, I have coffee and I respect your decision and I loathe the anti-smoking people. Over here they recently made it so you can't smoke at a bus stop. Nor can you smoke on government property and not during work hours. I don't like it despite the fact that I don't like smoking. I can avoid smokers while they smoke without any problems.
Funny thing is if you were to smoke in a building and it gets in the rug and walls what do you tell people who are allergic to it. Like me for example, I had to at least crack my window or blast the AC for the first few years I had my first car because of how much my parents smoked in it. I don't care if people smoke honestly, but don't expect me to be happy if I have to deal with dry mouth or coughing because you want to smoke inside (I flat out refused to drive with my dad if he smoked because I was coughing so much it was screwing with my driving). It's not like you drinking coffee can cause a allergic reaction to the person next to you.

Also that "I can avoid smokers while they smoke without any problems" is interesting. Because if my Team Lead had his way and could smoke right next to me as much as he does in our section I would have to request moving to another part of that room. And the funny part is each team as at least one smoker so no you can't really avoid it.
Now that is a matter of being considerate. I didn't say anything about smoking inside or being in your face about it. I said I stay away from people who smoke while they do smoke. That may serve as a hint that I do not appreciate breathing in smoke fumes. I have asthma so I take great care in staying away.

I'm in the group of people who should stay away from second hand smoke yet I do not condemn smoking on its own.

Honestly I could go into details here, but I have kinda written all of what I am saying in this post before already. You simply don't seem to care. All you know is that you don't like smoking, I don't condemn thus I must be super duper in love with the idea of people smoking wherever they want. NOT what I said and I have in fact said it several times that I don't like smoking. Seriously did READ my post before you decided that I was wrong or did you just watch some exaggerated "Smoking kills" propaganda while covering your eyes to the fact that there are NUANCES in the world. Smoking isn't good, no-one will tell you that. You shouldn't breathe in second hand smoke, no-one will tell you that. Smoking once a week doesn't mean you're going to die of lung cancer, anti-smoking ads WILL tell you that. That's why I hate anti-smoking ads. So if you could please read my posts in the future that would be swell and please don't insert imaginary opinions in my posts in the future, OK?
 

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So, serious question, is there a human on this planet who smokes and does NOT know that smoking is indeed bad for people?
 

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Yopaz said:
BoredRolePlayer said:
Yopaz said:
Xan Krieger said:
Yopaz said:
Xan Krieger said:
Is it bad I want to join and build a giant cigarette right next to it?
"They also believe that non-smoking ads have little to no effect."
That's true, they just piss me off and make me want to smoke out of spite.
Honestly, I have never smoked, never had the desire to smoke, never think I will smoke and I try to keep a distance from people or at least in the correct wind so I don't breathe in too much of it when I do and I agree with you.

I hate anti-smoking ads, I hate the scare tactics, I hate the bloated statistics and fault conclusions in so many of them. Give people the information about the dangers, label the packages and let people choose. I don't need to see a smokers lung or brain to know smoking is harmful and the truth is that quite a few would be disgusted just seeing a healthy man's lung anyway, smoker or not.

In the best case I think that anti-smoking ads have much the same effect as a bad hangover. You swear you'll never drink again, but then it passes and you break that promise and you drink again. Worst case scenario would be smoking out of spite.
Here's the way I work, I smoke or drink as a coping mechanism to deal with stress so the only way to get me to stop would be to remove the stress. How to do that I don't know. If I ever found that out I'd do it only recreationally, drinking and smoking with friends who do it instead of feeling the intense urge to do it when I feel stressed.
We all need ways to deal with stress and I empathize more with any smoker than any of those hardcore anti-smoking people out there. I don't feel the desire nor the need, that doesn't mean I want it to go away. If it is eating unhealthy food, smoking, drinking of my personal one, coffee we all find out ways to deal with stress. Now I am currently on that high note since coffee is currently believed to reduce risk of heart diseases unlike smoking and sugar which is being treated as more deadly than cyanide right now, but it's all the same.

If it were hurting me and someone informed me about it I would still need to deal with the stress somehow. You have smoking, I have coffee and I respect your decision and I loathe the anti-smoking people. Over here they recently made it so you can't smoke at a bus stop. Nor can you smoke on government property and not during work hours. I don't like it despite the fact that I don't like smoking. I can avoid smokers while they smoke without any problems.
Funny thing is if you were to smoke in a building and it gets in the rug and walls what do you tell people who are allergic to it. Like me for example, I had to at least crack my window or blast the AC for the first few years I had my first car because of how much my parents smoked in it. I don't care if people smoke honestly, but don't expect me to be happy if I have to deal with dry mouth or coughing because you want to smoke inside (I flat out refused to drive with my dad if he smoked because I was coughing so much it was screwing with my driving). It's not like you drinking coffee can cause a allergic reaction to the person next to you.

Also that "I can avoid smokers while they smoke without any problems" is interesting. Because if my Team Lead had his way and could smoke right next to me as much as he does in our section I would have to request moving to another part of that room. And the funny part is each team as at least one smoker so no you can't really avoid it.
Now that is a matter of being considerate. I didn't say anything about smoking inside or being in your face about it. I said I stay away from people who smoke while they do smoke. That may serve as a hint that I do not appreciate breathing in smoke fumes. I have asthma so I take great care in staying away.

I'm in the group of people who should stay away from second hand smoke yet I do not condemn smoking on its own.

Honestly I could go into details here, but I have kinda written all of what I am saying in this post before already. You simply don't seem to care. All you know is that you don't like smoking, I don't condemn thus I must be super duper in love with the idea of people smoking wherever they want. NOT what I said and I have in fact said it several times that I don't like smoking. Seriously did READ my post before you decided that I was wrong or did you just watch some exaggerated "Smoking kills" propaganda while covering your eyes to the fact that there are NUANCES in the world. Smoking isn't good, no-one will tell you that. You shouldn't breathe in second hand smoke, no-one will tell you that. Smoking once a week doesn't mean you're going to die of lung cancer, anti-smoking ads WILL tell you that. That's why I hate anti-smoking ads. So if you could please read my posts in the future that would be swell and please don't insert imaginary opinions in my posts in the future, OK?
1)Wow dude I did not imply you were a lover of smoking or people who smoke, point out where I said that since you act like I did. Nor do I shame people for smoking (hint: "I don't care if people smoke honestly, but don't expect me to be happy if I have to deal with dry mouth or coughing because you want to smoke inside"). It seems you went a bit off the deep end there assuming that because I don't want to be around people smoking because I'm allergic to it when I've been in multiple situations unable to avoid it or if smoking in buildings was a think I could work at my current job.

2)I'm mostly was talking about the you saying "I can avoid smokers while they smoke without any problems." My whole post in response that is you don't always have that option to avoid it. Like I said if people where allowed to smoke in the room I work in, with how many smoke I could not be in that room at all. I would have to work in a room where no one smokes and good luck on a government base. And also this statement "Nor can you smoke on government property" is not true, you can not smoke X number of feet from a building and it isn't just because second hand smoke it's because you can (and it has happen) cause a fire.
 

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BoredRolePlayer said:
It seems you went a bit off the deep end there assuming that because I don't want to be around people smoking because I'm allergic to it
I said I had asthma. I repeated it several times that I should stay away from second hand smoke in several different ways. You missed this despite me making a really good effort to stress that I should stay away from second hand smoke.

Again you inserted your own meaning to MY words. I told you to make an effort not to do so. You failed. I'm not going to discuss this with you since you can't discuss what I am saying and you try to discuss what you think I am saying.
 

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Yopaz said:
BoredRolePlayer said:
It seems you went a bit off the deep end there assuming that because I don't want to be around people smoking because I'm allergic to it
I said I had asthma. I repeated it several times that I should stay away from second hand smoke in several different ways. You missed this despite me making a really good effort to stress that I should stay away from second hand smoke.

Again you inserted your own meaning to MY words. I told you to make an effort not to do so. You failed. I'm not going to discuss this with you since you can't discuss what I am saying and you try to discuss what you think I am saying.
Like I thought you couldn't point out where I said you were pro smoking.

Also like I said I am allergic to smoke, and like I was saying even if it lingers it can still screw with me. And like I was saying walking away from it isn't always an option. I was not inserting my meaning into your words, I was giving you an example for being able to walk away is not always possible (And to correct you on the "can not smoke on government property" comment you made). Instead you just back peddle and get defensive when someone doesn't agree with you.
 

Yopaz

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BoredRolePlayer said:
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Like I thought you couldn't point out where I said you were pro smoking.
You started this line of arguments yet you have ignored me every step of the way. You took the first swing while completely ignoring me inserting your own meaning. The ball has been in your court since this started. I have never said anything about the things you argue for so now I am going to put you on my ignore list because I know this isn't going anywhere. You had a chance to discuss this as a civilized adult and you chose to discuss it just like any other internet discussion. If it makes you feel good, superior, strong, mature, consider this a victory that you can tell your grandchildren about. It's your choice if you want to say you won by default by being the superior übermench that you obviously are or by default because your opponent was weak and unskilled. You did win at least, congratulations.