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Lunar Templar

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with my Nortan up for renewal, and me not really having the money to renew (or the desire) i'm in the market for new anti-virus software. for free >.> as i really don't have it in the budget for anything past my internet and phone bills
 

TakeyB0y2

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SpyBot Search and Destroy is pretty decent. Only thing is is that it doesn't really actively scan your computer or automatically update. But it does immunize your browsers to stop them from downloading possible viruses, malware and spyware, and it has great community support.
 

Jonluw

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First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.

Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
 

Jonluw

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Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.

Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.
It's still expensive and unnecessary.
Purge the wallet-leech.
 

Hoplon

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Microsoft security essentials is good and free.

Norton (and a few others too) has the problem being bloat-ware more than shit.
 

Jonluw

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Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.

Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.
It's still expensive and unnecessary.
Purge the wallet-leech.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Norton-Internet-Security-Computers-Subscription/dp/B005INFE3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339960727&sr=8-1

£20 for 3 PCs is expensive?
Compared to £free, yup.
 

Jonluw

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Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.

Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.
It's still expensive and unnecessary.
Purge the wallet-leech.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Norton-Internet-Security-Computers-Subscription/dp/B005INFE3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339960727&sr=8-1

£20 for 3 PCs is expensive?
Compared to £free, yup.
Wow, why don't we stop paying for games and just play flash games? It's not like you get a better product when you pay more, is it?
Not from the looks of the results in regards to antivirus, no.
 

EternalFacepalm

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Matthew94 said:
I agree, hence why I am using NOD32. The point is everyone still thinks it's a bloatware tool that does more damage than the viruses themselves which has been wrong for years.

I don't care if someone prefers another AV but they shouldn't go around as if Norton never changed.
Norton never changed, but "it isn't worth paying for" refers to the fact that you can get much better value for money elsewhere. Norton certainly has changed, but there are still better, free alternatives elsewhere.
 

Esotera

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Malware Bytes.

But just like the old minecraft saying, "Only you can prevent forest fires" the best defense against getting viruses and other malware is only downloading from trustworthy sites, and not visiting the dodgy ones. Avoid McAfee, and Norton like the plague.
 

DoPo

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Well, Matthew94 said most of what I wanted to say - MSE, Avast!, and NOD32 (paid). For what it's worth, there are also AVG and Avira AntiVir which are free, but I personally prefer the former to them.
 

Jonluw

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Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
Matthew94 said:
Jonluw said:
First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.

Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.
It's still expensive and unnecessary.
Purge the wallet-leech.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Norton-Internet-Security-Computers-Subscription/dp/B005INFE3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339960727&sr=8-1

£20 for 3 PCs is expensive?
Compared to £free, yup.
Wow, why don't we stop paying for games and just play flash games? It's not like you get a better product when you pay more, is it?
Not from the looks of the results in regards to antivirus, no.
Care to back that up with some facts and figures?
I only have the testimony of everyone I've ever met who uses avast or similar.
My point isn't that Avast is better than Norton though. I wouldn't know.
My point is that "The more you pay for it, the better it is" is a fallacious statement.
You yourself went from "Norton isn't a horrible evil anymore" to "You pay for norton, that means it is better than the free stuff", which clearly wasn't true in the past, so I'm not going to assume it's true today when free av is doing me and everyone I know fine.

Regardless of the technical superiority of any given av software though, I still don't think it's reasonable for an ordinary person (I can see how workplaces may want to make an investment) to pay for av when there are free alternatives.
Even if there was an expensive av which demonstrably blocked every bit of hostile code ever, I still wouldn't pay for it, as your average internet user only needs a certain level of protection.
A level of protection that's perfectly available for free.
Considering I can browse questionable porn sites without issue, it would take nothing short of intentional sabotage or utter computer dyslexia to contract something serious.
Thus I'm working off the assumption that anyone capable of creating a thread in a forum does not need to pay for av.
 

Jonluw

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Matthew94 said:
And your point went from

"First things first: Purge Norton from your PC. Uninstall that shit.""

to

"it's unnecessarily expensive considering the effective service it offers"
Two statements which are - as opposed to yours - not in conflict.
The reason I told OP to uninstall Norton is not that it is(was) horrible bloatware.
1. It's a useless program to have lying around when you've decided to get a new AV, so uninstalling it is the sensible thing to do.
2. I have a dislike for subscription based AV in personal computers and would like to see their traces deleted.
3. I intentionally exagerrated the importance of getting rid of Norton for a very slight humorous effect.

My whole point has been that norton isn't the same bloatware as it used to be.
And never ever did I claim it was. You're fighting against a strawman, and you're accusing me of trying to change the rules of the game, when all I'm doing is trying to get the rules to apply to the point I'm actually making.

I'm sorry if the exaggeration in my original post was unclear and got you to think I was bringing up the old "Norton is horrible for your computer" point, but I did not intend that.
 

EternalFacepalm

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Matthew94 said:
I'm fine with free ones (or trial versions of the paid versions) because I'm not durr enough to get a virus in my PC (not saying you are either), I haven't got one in years. But for people who are not "web literate" (urgh) the paid ones are more useful I think.
I can agree on that. Norton is probably the best alternative for those not competent with avoiding viruses and so on. That has the cost of not allowing customisation, however, which is why Norton is a terrible alternative for anyone that knows the slightest of what they're doing.

One problem that Norton does suffer from, however, is that it's torture to uninstall. It came with my laptop, and there are still plenty of traces from it.
Matthew94 said:
Wow, why don't we stop paying for games and just play flash games? It's not like you get a better product when you pay more, is it?
You don't necessarily, no. There are plenty of Flash games that are (subjectively, of course) better than games that cost money.
 

Jonluw

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Matthew94 said:
Your humour came off pretty badly.
It normally does.
Anyway, I have a question for you. How do you expect to use free AVs if sub models go? MBAM survives with a "pay once" system as I assume they are a small team and they don't need tons of cash. MS can throw money at anything hence MSE existing but AVAST and the rest, how do you expect them to give free versions if they get rid of the subscription model?
Like I mentioned as a sidenote in an earlier post, I'm not opposed to companies and workplaces (Being the places where, from what I understand, software suppliers earn most their money) investing in subscription services. They might need the extra protection just to be sure.

This money can apparently responsibly finance the company while they provide free services to private persons as a pleasant gesture (and as a hook).
 

drmigit2

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I use a combo of AVG free and Spybot S&D. Entirely free and I have been virus free for years. Spybot is not a scanner, it is a prevention and stops unwanted things from being installed on your machine. I am a fan of the combo.
 

Hoplon

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I call things like Norton, McAfee even kapersky in the last few years added services that are either over kill (firewalls) or unlikely to work very well such as anti phishing (oh they can scan web mail now? impressive) or anti account fraud (again, i would like to see that in action)

All that extra stuff is horseshit the average end user doesn't need and is usually robbing resources.

hence bloat ware.

Though I do notice they are just selling the AV now which is good to see.