with my Nortan up for renewal, and me not really having the money to renew (or the desire) i'm in the market for new anti-virus software. for free >.> as i really don't have it in the budget for anything past my internet and phone bills
It most certainly isn't worth paying for.Matthew94 said:Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.
It's still expensive and unnecessary.Matthew94 said:Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.Jonluw said:First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.
Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
Compared to £free, yup.Matthew94 said:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Norton-Internet-Security-Computers-Subscription/dp/B005INFE3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339960727&sr=8-1Jonluw said:It's still expensive and unnecessary.Matthew94 said:Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.Jonluw said:First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.
Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
Purge the wallet-leech.
£20 for 3 PCs is expensive?
Not from the looks of the results in regards to antivirus, no.Matthew94 said:Wow, why don't we stop paying for games and just play flash games? It's not like you get a better product when you pay more, is it?Jonluw said:Compared to £free, yup.Matthew94 said:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Norton-Internet-Security-Computers-Subscription/dp/B005INFE3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339960727&sr=8-1Jonluw said:It's still expensive and unnecessary.Matthew94 said:Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.Jonluw said:First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.
Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
Purge the wallet-leech.
£20 for 3 PCs is expensive?
Well, from one of the reviews you linked to:Matthew94 said:snippedy snip
I'm not saying it's terrible, but you can get much better value elsewhere.Overall, BitDefender Internet Security 2012 is both cheaper and more effective.
Norton never changed, but "it isn't worth paying for" refers to the fact that you can get much better value for money elsewhere. Norton certainly has changed, but there are still better, free alternatives elsewhere.Matthew94 said:I agree, hence why I am using NOD32. The point is everyone still thinks it's a bloatware tool that does more damage than the viruses themselves which has been wrong for years.
I don't care if someone prefers another AV but they shouldn't go around as if Norton never changed.
I only have the testimony of everyone I've ever met who uses avast or similar.Matthew94 said:Care to back that up with some facts and figures?Jonluw said:Not from the looks of the results in regards to antivirus, no.Matthew94 said:Wow, why don't we stop paying for games and just play flash games? It's not like you get a better product when you pay more, is it?Jonluw said:Compared to £free, yup.Matthew94 said:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Norton-Internet-Security-Computers-Subscription/dp/B005INFE3M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339960727&sr=8-1Jonluw said:It's still expensive and unnecessary.Matthew94 said:Hello, is it 2000? Norton hasn't been bad for ages, it's a quality AV now.Jonluw said:First things first: Purge Norton from your PC.
Uninstall that shit.
Go get Avast or something. There is lots of free software out there, but Avast has served me well so far.
Purge the wallet-leech.
£20 for 3 PCs is expensive?
Two statements which are - as opposed to yours - not in conflict.Matthew94 said:And your point went from
"First things first: Purge Norton from your PC. Uninstall that shit.""
to
"it's unnecessarily expensive considering the effective service it offers"
And never ever did I claim it was. You're fighting against a strawman, and you're accusing me of trying to change the rules of the game, when all I'm doing is trying to get the rules to apply to the point I'm actually making.My whole point has been that norton isn't the same bloatware as it used to be.
I can agree on that. Norton is probably the best alternative for those not competent with avoiding viruses and so on. That has the cost of not allowing customisation, however, which is why Norton is a terrible alternative for anyone that knows the slightest of what they're doing.Matthew94 said:I'm fine with free ones (or trial versions of the paid versions) because I'm not durr enough to get a virus in my PC (not saying you are either), I haven't got one in years. But for people who are not "web literate" (urgh) the paid ones are more useful I think.
You don't necessarily, no. There are plenty of Flash games that are (subjectively, of course) better than games that cost money.Matthew94 said:Wow, why don't we stop paying for games and just play flash games? It's not like you get a better product when you pay more, is it?
It normally does.Matthew94 said:Your humour came off pretty badly.
Like I mentioned as a sidenote in an earlier post, I'm not opposed to companies and workplaces (Being the places where, from what I understand, software suppliers earn most their money) investing in subscription services. They might need the extra protection just to be sure.Anyway, I have a question for you. How do you expect to use free AVs if sub models go? MBAM survives with a "pay once" system as I assume they are a small team and they don't need tons of cash. MS can throw money at anything hence MSE existing but AVAST and the rest, how do you expect them to give free versions if they get rid of the subscription model?