Any 2nd person games
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Super Mario 64, perhaps? You're seeing things from the point of view of the camera man. He's introduced in the beginning and you can see "yourself" (him) in mirrors. But you're controlling Mario. Well...actually you are controlling the camera man too, though. So maybe not.
That's pretty cool, even if it doesn't qualify as second-person. You control two characters simultaneously.
That's pretty cool, even if it doesn't qualify as second-person. You control two characters simultaneously.
First Person = From your own point of view.
Second Person = From another character's point of view.
Third Person = Told from an objective outsider's point of view.
Fourth Person = Yahtzee's point of view.
Best example for second person I can think of? Psychonauts! The clairvoyance power literally lets you watch yourself through the eyes of another game character.
Second Person = From another character's point of view.
Third Person = Told from an objective outsider's point of view.
Fourth Person = Yahtzee's point of view.
Best example for second person I can think of? Psychonauts! The clairvoyance power literally lets you watch yourself through the eyes of another game character.
In Mario you don't control the camera but you control the Lakitu, I think it counts but only just.direkiller said:
I would like to introduce you to EXperience 112, the first game that i have ever played that is entirely in the 2nd personProfessor James said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXperience_112
*link above for wiki page
I know that since you have no direct control of the protagonist, you still have methods of giving commands for movements and actions, so i feel it still counts. Its also a fairly decent horror/mystery game, at least imo.
I think prince of Persia (2008) had one level with a 2nd person camera (since it was through the evil gods eyes) but I don?t think you could have a whole game like that.
In Siren -series the big gimmick of the games is that you can see through the eyes of your enemies or other characters. There's a pretty clever mission in Siren 2 (never released in America) where you're playing with a character who has a very poor eyesight, so if you want to see anything beyond near incomprehensible blur you must use the afore mentioned "sight jack" to look around through the eyes of your pet dog.DementedSheep said:
I could imagine an entire horror game done like that, though it would require a pretty robust command system for the dog.
he is non interactive omnipresentVeldt Falsetto said:
so he is 3rd person
you're also controlling him so 2nd person is not an option
OT:Jack 2 had a chance level from the perspective of the tank behind you
A second person game would be one in which YOU the character would be viewed through the eyes of an independent follower/Npc/escort.
The character whose eyes you see out of would not be the character whose body you control.
Sounds like a good experimental game idea.
Say, Leon: The Professional: The Game. Where your camera is from the perspective of Natalie Portman but you control Jean Reno.
Her eyes wouldn't always be focused on you so you would have these weird situations where suddenly you'd be out of the camera frame as she looks at the bad guys coming out of the elevator (or something)
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I do know 2nd person was done in the Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones, where your being chased by the nightmare creature and you control the prince while viewing the action through the monsters eyes.
The character whose eyes you see out of would not be the character whose body you control.
Sounds like a good experimental game idea.
Say, Leon: The Professional: The Game. Where your camera is from the perspective of Natalie Portman but you control Jean Reno.
Her eyes wouldn't always be focused on you so you would have these weird situations where suddenly you'd be out of the camera frame as she looks at the bad guys coming out of the elevator (or something)
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I do know 2nd person was done in the Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones, where your being chased by the nightmare creature and you control the prince while viewing the action through the monsters eyes.
Heres a simple browser 2nd person shooter.
http://www.kongregate.com/games/himojii/second-person-shooter-zato?acomplete=second+pers
Can't think of anything else that hasn't been said.
http://www.kongregate.com/games/himojii/second-person-shooter-zato?acomplete=second+pers
Can't think of anything else that hasn't been said.
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Basically in terms of camera work then yes there are a rare few examples of seeing the character or characters act through another persons eyes/a camera as you play different from 3rd person because it is attached to an object / person that is observing rather than a disembodies entity. the closest you can get to a 2nd person game is probably one like Black and White if you play purely through your creature, you still play as "God" as in a character but leave the running and direction attacking and such to your creature as while you can influence him he still has free will and can at times just ignore you. Basicly a second person game is one where you can interact with the character by saying stuff like "you should do this" or "you shouldn't do this" but the character ultimately decides what it will do for its self for instance lets say that instead of being the hero in a game you were the sidekick you could suggest to sneak in to the bosses secret base but the hero could decide to break down the front door instead a game like this is possible.
Example below
Lets take a fantasy setting as an example the Hero is the only one who can kill Big Bad but your controlling Tim Farmboy when you two are both young you were kind of a dick to him so when you grow up he ignores you you don't recurrent anyone else and the world is conquered by big bad. Or it could be that you din't talk to him much and instead while walking along the road with him to big bad's mega fortress you spot a cabin in the woods and suggest we stop there for the night in scenario 1 the hero ignores you but here the hero hears you and decides to march up to the cabin and break down the front door you tell him not to but your not that good of a friend so he ignores you he breaks down the door and inside finds Ellen Magic-Face who shouts at the hero and attacks accidentally setting fire to her house then demands the hero buy's her another one the hero feeling partly responsible agrees and she joins his party until he pays back he debt so miss Magic-Face joins the party and you get a second character that could influence the hero. But you get the idea. If any one wants to make this game let me know cause I have a lot more ideas that I have literally just come up with[/spoiler]
Basically in terms of camera work then yes there are a rare few examples of seeing the character or characters act through another persons eyes/a camera as you play different from 3rd person because it is attached to an object / person that is observing rather than a disembodies entity. the closest you can get to a 2nd person game is probably one like Black and White if you play purely through your creature, you still play as "God" as in a character but leave the running and direction attacking and such to your creature as while you can influence him he still has free will and can at times just ignore you. Basicly a second person game is one where you can interact with the character by saying stuff like "you should do this" or "you shouldn't do this" but the character ultimately decides what it will do for its self for instance lets say that instead of being the hero in a game you were the sidekick you could suggest to sneak in to the bosses secret base but the hero could decide to break down the front door instead a game like this is possible.
Example below
Lets take a fantasy setting as an example the Hero is the only one who can kill Big Bad but your controlling Tim Farmboy when you two are both young you were kind of a dick to him so when you grow up he ignores you you don't recurrent anyone else and the world is conquered by big bad. Or it could be that you din't talk to him much and instead while walking along the road with him to big bad's mega fortress you spot a cabin in the woods and suggest we stop there for the night in scenario 1 the hero ignores you but here the hero hears you and decides to march up to the cabin and break down the front door you tell him not to but your not that good of a friend so he ignores you he breaks down the door and inside finds Ellen Magic-Face who shouts at the hero and attacks accidentally setting fire to her house then demands the hero buy's her another one the hero feeling partly responsible agrees and she joins his party until he pays back he debt so miss Magic-Face joins the party and you get a second character that could influence the hero. But you get the idea. If any one wants to make this game let me know cause I have a lot more ideas that I have literally just come up with[/spoiler]
