Any Marvel comic aficionados here?

[Amethyst Wind]

I was wiki-walking and came across the term 'Omega-level Mutant'. Read a couple of examples; Vulcan, Franklin Richards, Jean Gray - all fine, then I noticed something.

Iceman?

Iceman is counted among the most powerful mutants going?


I followed the link to Iceman's page and read the justification for this, how he can leach thermal energy from the world and alter eco-systems. Fine in theory, however, why wouldn't this equally apply to other mutants who could wreck the world in similar ways; Storm, Magneto, Avalanche?

Anyone help here?

 

[WolfThomas]

Anyone help here?

I believe he isn't an Omega anymore as a side effect of M day, it nerfed some mutant's powers as well as removing most of the mutants. But yeah on a good day he was able to influence water and tempetature globally.

Omega has always been a vague term in marvel. Why is Elixer an omega? Is Nate Grey or Cable Omega? Proteus?

 

[Aurgelmir]

Basically what Wolf said, it's a very VERY loose term. But neither Storm or Magneto could affect the whole world at once.

 

[WolfThomas]

The other classification made sense.
Alpha - Normal Appearance with an ability that is both powerful and controllable.
Beta - Normal appearance looking with a powerful ability that isn't as controllable. Cyclops can't control his blast, Wolverine can't choose when to heal.
Gamma - Powerful ability that is detrimental to daily life, like having a monstrous appearance. Beast, Night Crawler, the Blob.
Delta - Normal appearance with a less powerful ability. Cypher, Domino and Forge are good examples. Their power is useful but not powerful.
Epsilon - An inhuman appearance or an ability that makes normal life difficult. With no advantageous side effects. Beak is a good exmple.

Omega - Whatever they damn want.

 

[DannyJBeckett]

The reason the likes of Iceman and Jean Grey are on there is because their powers enable them to control or alter the environment around them. I'm pretty sure Storm and Magneto are Omega level, too.

 

[GrimTuesday]

Its because Iceman can effect the world on such a global scale that isn't matched by almost any mutant. Magneto is powerful, so is Storm, but they aren't able to effect the world as a whole, their powers are limited to a certain area. Iceman on the other hand has the ability to manipulate the most common element on earth, if he wanted to, he could freeze entire oceans, Storm couldn't cover an entire continent with lightening storms (as far as I know), and its not like Magneto can tear up every metal on all at once (once again, as far as I know).

 

[Amethyst Wind]

Its because Iceman can effect the world on such a global scale that isn't matched by almost any mutant. Magneto is powerful, so is Storm, but they aren't able to effect the world as a whole, their powers are limited to a certain area. Iceman on the other hand has the ability to manipulate the most common element on earth, if he wanted to, he could freeze entire oceans, Storm couldn't cover an entire continent with lightening storms (as far as I know), and its not like Magneto can tear up every metal on all at once (once again, as far as I know).

But hasn't Magneto done something along the lines of stopping/reversing/shenaniganing the rotation of the Earth at one point or another?

That'd be comparable to global water manipulation wouldn't it?

 

[RatRace123]

The other classification made sense.
Alpha - Normal Appearance with an ability that is both powerful and controllable.
Beta - Normal appearance looking with a powerful ability that isn't as controllable. Cyclops can't control his blast, Wolverine can't choose when to heal.
Gamma - Powerful ability that is detrimental to daily life, like having a monstrous appearance. Beast, Night Crawler, the Blob.
Delta - Normal appearance with a less powerful ability. Cypher, Domino and Forge are good examples. Their power is useful but not powerful.
Epsilon - An inhuman appearance or an ability that makes normal life difficult. With no advantageous side effects. Beak is a good exmple.

Omega - Whatever they damn want.

Pretty much this, "Omega Level Mutant" is basically on the same level as "Magic" or "Science" which is comic book speak for. We can have any number of things happen that we don't have to devote a great deal of time to explaining because they fall under this blanket statement.

 

[GrimTuesday]

Its because Iceman can effect the world on such a global scale that isn't matched by almost any mutant. Magneto is powerful, so is Storm, but they aren't able to effect the world as a whole, their powers are limited to a certain area. Iceman on the other hand has the ability to manipulate the most common element on earth, if he wanted to, he could freeze entire oceans, Storm couldn't cover an entire continent with lightening storms (as far as I know), and its not like Magneto can tear up every metal on all at once (once again, as far as I know).

But hasn't Magneto done something along the lines of stopping/reversing/shenaniganing the rotation of the Earth at one point or another?

That'd be comparable to global water manipulation wouldn't it?

I don't think he has, I could be wrong, but as far as I know, he's never messed with the earths rotation. If he had, it would most definitely be comparable to Iceman's power.

 

[agentorange98]

Franklin Richards isn't a mutant mutant's just love to claim he is same with Namor the Submariner, but I would never call ice man an omega, this was probably a one off use of his powers that is largely forgotten by most mainstream writers and not commonly used, he's certainly not as powerful as Vulcan or Jean Grey the 2 true Omegas

 

[RatRace123]

I don't think he has, I could be wrong, but as far as I know, he's never messed with the earths rotation. If he had, it would most definitely be comparable to Iceman's power.

In the Ultimate universe he messed with the Earth's magnetic poles to cause Earthquakes and Typhoons (That's not actually how that works, but that was the least of that particular storyline's problems.)

But in the mainstream Marvel universe, Magneto's never done anything of that magnitude, excuse the pun.