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I play a Euphonium, which is similar to a tuba, but is smaller with a higher pitch. I've been playing for at least 15 years now, both as a soloist and as a member of a number of brass bands.
 

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I play the violin, and I did play upright bass for a year in my high school orchestra didn't have one. It's a rather long story, but it was pretty fun.

I have a cello as well, and I'm slowly learning it. Different finger patterns between the two instruments make life a little hard. :/

I also create music when I have the time, and I do a lot of editing and recording because of my job, but that's beside the point.
MiracleOfSound said:
Weaver said:
As a side note, I've noticed in the past 5 - 10 years or so the complete over compression of music in general. Wave forms are starting to look like big fat rectangles, at least in the music I generally listen to. I DJ as well and I've ripped music from some old vinyl I have and the waveform is nice and dynamic vs. lots of the newer stuff that is totally overcommpressed and just... I dunno, has a real "wall of sound" slam in your face sound to it. That can be good to a point, but I find it gets really tiring.
Yes indeedy! It's the loudness war:

And people wonder why I don't listen to newer metal records loudly, but thank God that's slowly changing.

Makes me sad that the art of recording is going down the crapper because of this.
 

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IvoryTriforce said:
Well a piano can be digital, acoustic grand, acoustic upright, etc.
I assume yours is upright then.

If I had any of those instruments anymore I would do it for free.
I hope you find some other players, I know from experience that that's definitely a difficult thing to do.
Your right, mine is a standard Upright (Acoustic I guess).

And thanks. I've been browsing a lot of Music Forums lately, because I really want to do this album, but I haven't gotten a lot of people to either join or stick long enough to do all the songs.
 

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mitchell271 said:
However, even with all the equalizing plug-ins in the world, I still prefer my good old sound board. Sure, it's basic, but I've had this thing for years and I love it.
heh, yeah for sure. Your ears & brain are also always gonna be your most important tool. Mastering doesn't really have any set rules, it's more about preference I guess. Personally I love a nice dynamic mix but sadly can't often master my stuff this way in the knowledge that such a huge percentage listens to it on horrid phone & laptop speakers. I end up smashing things a lot more than I'd like to
 

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IvoryTriforce said:
I've been playing guitar for about 7 years and I did play classical guitar and learn musical theory in school. I decided to move to piano about a week ago and I'm enjoying it greatly, I'm getting the hang of it a lot quicker than I thought.
Awesome. I'm the opposite of you.
I played piano for nine years (mostly classical, but I did learn the Pink Panther theme, The Entertainer, Also Sprach Zarathusthra (the Monolith theme from 2001 - ASO) and Dearly Beloved (menu theme from Kingdom Hearts)). Now I mostly play guitar. I only started learning the theory when I moved to guitar.
I've wondered what its like moving from guitar to piano. I always felt piano was quite rigid in comparison - only one key can produce a particular note on piano vs. 3 or 4 different places on the guitar produce the same note. Even my guitar teachers used keyboards to show intervals and how sharps and flats fit into a scale and stuff.
How do you find the theory moving in the opposite direction?
 

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I play electric bass and have done so for almost 2 years now, and I would consider that my primary instrument. I also play the drums and have done so for over 4 years, but I'm better at bass.

I also played the French Horn in my high school band class and I did so for 7 years. It was fun when I was in class, and I was actually quite good at it, but I couldn't get myself to play the thing outside of school or after I graduated.

I also can play a bit of guitar, but I don't own one so my abilities are quite limited whenever I do pick one up.
 

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Fiz_The_Toaster said:
And people wonder why I don't listen to newer metal records loudly, but thank God that's slowly changing.

Makes me sad that the art of recording is going down the crapper because of this.
Yeah. A lot of modern metal albums rarely sound heavy, just loud. it kinda defeats the point.

I mean what sounds more crushing & powerful... this


or this


Perhaps an unfair comparison due to style/genre but I often feel that popular metal was a lot more full-on, warm, dynamic and just.... heavy back in the day.

Could be I'm just being a nostalgic old fart though. Especially when you've got bands like Meshuggah making head crushingly good stuff.
 

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I have been playing the piano for a year now and my next lesson is in two hours. I cannot write any music however.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
And people wonder why I don't listen to newer metal records loudly, but thank God that's slowly changing.

Makes me sad that the art of recording is going down the crapper because of this.
Yeah. A lot of modern metal albums rarely sound heavy, just loud. it kinda defeats the point.

I mean what sounds more crushing & powerful... this


or this


Perhaps an unfair comparison due to style/genre but I often feel that popular metal was a lot more full-on, warm, dynamic and just.... heavy back in the day.

Could be I'm just being a nostalgic old fart though. Especially when you've got bands like Meshuggah making head crushingly good stuff.
Well obviously the latter, but I see your point. It's just a wall of sound with no nuance to anything, but I have to wonder if it's because of how digital recording makes things easier for that to happen.

Kinda sad when the best recorded album ever is Dark Side of the Moon and that was years ago when recording was "primitive".
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Hello there, I do not know if you would know as I do not know all of the instruments you play however would you happen to know what a good electronic piano with fully weighted keys and USB support in the 500-750 dollar range? I just want to ask someone whose talent is extremely evident, I trust to be informed, and may have knowledge of hardware that he does not use in the same way I know the pros and cons of computer components that I myself do not use.

P.S. I know, I know, extremely weird question but I rather ask it here than a bunch of stranger's whose music I have never sampled on other sites or may not even reply.
 

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Fiz_The_Toaster said:
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Well obviously the latter, but I see your point. It's just a wall of sound with no nuance to anything, but I have to wonder if it's because of how digital recording makes things easier for that to happen.

Kinda sad when the best recorded album ever is Dark Side of the Moon and that was years ago when recording was "primitive".
It is because of limiting, plain & simple. Everything has to be louder nowadays to be heard on shitty laptops, phones, Ipads etc... everything is ultra loud and squashed to shit to the point it loses dynamics and in some cases even loses low frequencies
 

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arsenalabu said:
How do you find the theory moving in the opposite direction?
I'm finding it so much clearer on piano than I did guitar. I guess that's why musical theory started with a bunch of guys in powdered wigs playing piano lol. Someone somewhere down the line had to apply it to guitar in history but that came with a little more complicated instruction, and I haven't even touched on plucking/strumming technique and how that effects sound. Notes and generally reading music has just become a bit easier for me for some reason. Not that I had a hard time with guitar but to compare the two I find piano easier, again, for some reason I can't describe perfectly lol.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Short story time: My old friend who was my best friend was a guy I met through craigslist while I wanted to start a hard rock or alt rock kind of band (was my same age too). After a while of playing together and stuff he invited me to go with him to an Avenged 7x concert. He gave me a cheap price on a ticket because he really wanted me to go (we were on a big A7x kick). Well this was a couple of days before thanksgiving. I ended up getting a horrible violent stomach bug of sorts and I wasn't better when concert day rolled around, so I missed out on Thanksgiving dinner and going to the concert. I don't kick myself for missing it but it was another cool concert experience I could have added to my collection of tickets.
 

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1st French horn 2nd position, 2nd Es-Tuba - those are my primary instruments. Then I also do Oboe, Cello, 5string Bass and piano.
I am curator of 2 teaching orchestras, play 1 Wind band and Brass Quintet + anything I am demanded or asked to do.
 

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I play guitar and attempt to sing. I've been doing both for a while now but I only got really serious about the two in the past few years. I'm not really sure how good/bad people think I am at either of them, I'm too shy to do either of them in front of people, which is a bit of a problem considering I really want to make a career out of making music FOR people.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
Fiz_The_Toaster said:
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Well obviously the latter, but I see your point. It's just a wall of sound with no nuance to anything, but I have to wonder if it's because of how digital recording makes things easier for that to happen.

Kinda sad when the best recorded album ever is Dark Side of the Moon and that was years ago when recording was "primitive".
It is because of limiting, plain & simple. Everything has to be louder nowadays to be heard on shitty laptops, phones, Ipads etc... everything is ultra loud and squashed to shit to the point it loses dynamics and in some cases even loses low frequencies
As a result of this I've also found a HUGE emphasis on the midrange in modern music as well. Those crappy laptop speakers aren't going to be putting out much on the low end.

Even Drum and Bass which most people can tell from the title of the genre used to be about fast breaks and groovin' basslines has made a dramatic shift to mainly focusing on the midrange, which I think is ... really sad, actually. Producers used to make stuff to be played on big PA systems which really made for much more vibrant basslines back in the day.


MiracleOfSound said:
Perhaps an unfair comparison due to style/genre but I often feel that popular metal was a lot more full-on, warm, dynamic and just.... heavy back in the day.

Could be I'm just being a nostalgic old fart though. Especially when you've got bands like Meshuggah making head crushingly good stuff.
Awwww shit yeah! Machine head is one of my favourite bands of all time. I own every one of their albums :D. Ten Ton Hammer is probably one of my top songs from them :)
 

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I've been playing clarinet for about 8 or years now, I believe, and tenor saxophone for 4 or so. I also have a guiar but I'm complete crap with it. :p

trollnystan said:
Welcome to the Escapist! That's all I have to say really, as I don't play an instrument. Wish I did but don't have the patience to learn. All I can do is sing a bit, but unlike sky14kemea I don't practise beyond howling along to things on my playlist - or if I've been asked to sing at a funeral, which hasn't happened more than twice thank goodness. I even asked for feedback in the advice forums here when practising to sing for my granny's funeral.

I approve of this talk of an Escapist band. MAKE IT SO. *sips Earl Grey tea*
I played at my aunts funeral, even wrote my own short piece for it. It's really strange experience, since while I'm quite proud of my performance it turns out it's really difficult to keep a steady tone if you're on the verge of crying the whole time.

Not something I'd be eager to do again
 

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Yo, IvoryTriforce! Thanks for sticking around!

I play the guitar... Been playing it for... uh... 9 years? Still can't power chord, though... Yet, I can read tabs like a mofo with an OCD complex... (Wrong analogy, I'm sure...)

Tried drums... Found out I needed to hit the bass pedal with my left foot instead of my right in order to even pull it off "properly"... (I'm right-handed, by the way...)

Though, I'd rather be good at any string-based instrument... and guitar was just the instrument I needed to feel like I'm Mark from Creed... or Noodle from Gorillaz... (Still not as good as them, though...)
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
heh, yeah for sure. Your ears & brain are also always gonna be your most important tool. Mastering doesn't really have any set rules, it's more about preference I guess. Personally I love a nice dynamic mix but sadly can't often master my stuff this way in the knowledge that such a huge percentage listens to it on horrid phone & laptop speakers. I end up smashing things a lot more than I'd like to
See, I've never understood that. I've always thought that you should do music for your own sake, not worrying about what other people think about it. Look at me, I write extreme thrash like Slayer or Exodus. It's never going to become super popular, but it's the style I like. Even though I won't be able to sell it because that audience is very small (and close minded), I'd never upload it to soundcloud if I wasn't happy with the mix/master. If you still need to do it for your fans, and there are a lot of us, do it for the audiophiles with the studios and Shure SHR840s.

If nothing else, when you do albums, you can remaster! And touching up old stuff is always fun. :D