Anyone else have this problem with music?
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This. Just because a lot of artists have tonnes of good work, that's just worth buying the album. I sample the top hits, then a couple random songs from the album, and if I like it will consider buying it. When I get a new album, it usually takes me a week or two to crack into it, and then I listen to pretty much every song on it regularly.Aby_Z said:
To me, the albums are put in an order for a reason. In that, the song before effects how you hear the song after. so yeah, i only buy complete albums.
I'm a mix and match kind of guy when it comes to iTunes. If I can get an album cheaper buy buying it whole, I buy the CD. If I can get it cheaper via iTunes, I'll buy it on iTunes.
Example Album - How Could Hell Be any worse(Bad Religion)
New - $10.00
iTunes album cost - $10.00
Songs on album - 28
iTunes cost/song - $1.29
Why would I NOT buy the album?
Example Album - How Could Hell Be any worse(Bad Religion)
New - $10.00
iTunes album cost - $10.00
Songs on album - 28
iTunes cost/song - $1.29
Why would I NOT buy the album?
Albums for the most part, sometimes I download single songs when I first find out about a band, decide if they are worth it and sometimes im pretty anal about owning a entire discography.
Case and point, despite better judgement, I know the new Sonic Youth CDs are shit, I know I will never listen to that shit, I know none of there CDs will ever be anywhere near as good as Daydream Nation, but I fucking needed them.
Case and point, despite better judgement, I know the new Sonic Youth CDs are shit, I know I will never listen to that shit, I know none of there CDs will ever be anywhere near as good as Daydream Nation, but I fucking needed them.
Not even remotely - I do have a few isolated 'lone tracks' from a few artists, but I'm very much a "get the whole bloody album" kind of guy (of which I have enough now to leave my music playing for 28.7 days without a track repeating, whee!). It helps that in general the bands that I seek out don't release albums with one or two decent tracks and the rest padded out with filler, because they're usually not anywhere near popular enough to get away with moves like that, heh.
Also just having one or two isolated tracks seems... sloppy to me, and I'm touchy about things like that.
Also just having one or two isolated tracks seems... sloppy to me, and I'm touchy about things like that.
This is usually my case, but that's only because I stick to foreign music most of the time. There are some artists that I have 5 or 6 songs of, but most of the time I just have one or two of an artists songs.
EDIT: Ironically I just bought 8 Machinae Supremacy songs.
EDIT: Ironically I just bought 8 Machinae Supremacy songs.
I'm largely the same way. Some of my favourite songs on my list are lone songs by bands I otherwise don't care for. There are about 20 bands who continuously make music I like, or at least albums I can listen to all of the way through, and then there's the CDs that people give me or that I buy just to support the artist. Just picky I suppose.
I get a full album, then just delete the songs from it that I don't like. Normally this ends up being pretty much half the album at least.Sober Thal said:
I'm actually 19, and I don't think it's the norm. I think I'm weird for having a pick-and-mix iTunes library.
Another album buyer here, if I here a song I like I buy the albums to see if the rest of the bands songs are of the same quality.
One of my favourite things about an album is that its an experience that evolves- on a 1st listen theres the 2 or 3 stand out tracks whilst the others blend into one another or dont sound that good, but on the 2nd this changes- the ones that sounded good at 1st now sound boring and musically dull while that odd little one towards the end suddenly becomes this massive epic tune and your shocked at how you didnt realise how fantastic it was 1st time round, and then on the 3rd and fourth and so on it keeps changing.
In my expereince when I tend to download single songs its the ones that sound good on a 1st listen, the ones that get boring quickly and as since I dont have the full album to listen to I get bored of the band and miss out on the awesome tracks that take a few listens to properly enjoy.
So after that sanctimonious wall of text, in my not-so-humble opinion OP your doing yourself a disservice but skipping out on the full experience that a band can offer, and its worth remembering that the best songs take time.
EDIT= Also, am I alone in despising Itunes? Id much rather have a real tactile copy of the CD in my hands
One of my favourite things about an album is that its an experience that evolves- on a 1st listen theres the 2 or 3 stand out tracks whilst the others blend into one another or dont sound that good, but on the 2nd this changes- the ones that sounded good at 1st now sound boring and musically dull while that odd little one towards the end suddenly becomes this massive epic tune and your shocked at how you didnt realise how fantastic it was 1st time round, and then on the 3rd and fourth and so on it keeps changing.
In my expereince when I tend to download single songs its the ones that sound good on a 1st listen, the ones that get boring quickly and as since I dont have the full album to listen to I get bored of the band and miss out on the awesome tracks that take a few listens to properly enjoy.
So after that sanctimonious wall of text, in my not-so-humble opinion OP your doing yourself a disservice but skipping out on the full experience that a band can offer, and its worth remembering that the best songs take time.
EDIT= Also, am I alone in despising Itunes? Id much rather have a real tactile copy of the CD in my hands
Not really a problem. Just the way music has changed and evolved over time. People don't see much point in buying a full album when they can just pick and chose the songs they want through iTunes or other such services.
It's a bit of a shame, especially for some albums that are meant to be listened in their entirety, but it is understandable.
It's a bit of a shame, especially for some albums that are meant to be listened in their entirety, but it is understandable.
Who says it is insane? Most of an album has been crap filler with 1-3 maybe even five good tracks for at least twenty years. Any band that ends up on a major label has to push out CDs at an unrealistic rate so end up having to record alot of throwaway tracks.ReservoirAngel said:
Care to give out a wealth of examples that substantiate your claims because I'm just not seeing it.Ken Sapp said:
I buy music by the album. If I like a song by an artist, chances are I'll like the rest of the album.
Then your claims go unsubstantiated and what you say can be disregarded entirely because you can't back up what you're saying.Ken Sapp said:
No, you pretty much do what I do.
By picking out one or two songs from different artists, you can get quite a nice range of music.
By picking out one or two songs from different artists, you can get quite a nice range of music.
Even if there's only the odd song or two i like, i often get the whole album. Nothing annoys me more when i have friends over and someone says, oh you have "insert band here" have you got "song" its on the same album, only to find i dont have it. It does no harm just sitting there, so i dont mind i having it. I have also found that after i over play a song to death the rest of the album starts growing on me, not right a way but a few months down the line.
Its annoying looking at someones music collection only to find its the odd song or two, with my friends its often the indie-pop crap ones.
Its annoying looking at someones music collection only to find its the odd song or two, with my friends its often the indie-pop crap ones.
Considering judgements of value are completely subjective any arguments relating to the quality of particular songs or albums are essentially a wast of time. I have my opinions and you have yours.GiantRaven said:
On the point I made of bands being expected to push out albums at an unrealistic rate, artistic endeavors can not be forced to conform to a timetable however when a new artist signs on with a record label the contract has a time table saying they will produce X number of albums in X amount of time. New artists do not generally have the clout to be able to change much in contract negotiation. Since they are bound by contract to get that next album out or lose their contract they will often have to include material which is either not finished to their satisfaction or use songs written by label songwriters they may have never met which will result in music which doesn't feel the same because it wasn't written by the same people.