Anyone else think Marvel heroes are just 'more fun' than DC heroes?

[rob_simple]

Batman has always been my favourite superhero, (I think he has the best enemies as well,) and I've always had Bruce Wayne to have quite a dry wit when he's not the Bat.

I think the only reason Tony Stark became likeable (given that he's just an egocentric alcoholic dickhead) was because he was played by Robert Downey Jr with great scripts. I've liked every incarnation of Bruce Wayne/Batman but I hated the old Iron Man cartoons because there was nothing particularly likeable about Stark.

The problem I have with a lot of Marvel superheroes (particularly the X-Men) is that they're really, really dated. Batman's costume has only been slightly altered in various forms of media since his inception, but I don't think the X-Men movies would have been nearly as enjoyable if Hugh Jackman was running about in lemon yellow spandex with tasteful sky blue decals.

 

[drosalion]

Superman is like the epitomy of boring/bland characters while also being incredibly overpowered making him not an interesting hero too (imo). I completely agree with the OP though, i just cant quite put my finger on it but things like spiderman, xmen, iron man etc all seem 10x more entertaining to me than practically all of DC's heros. The characters (or atleast what i know of them) seem way more interesting, and their powers seem cooler/more interesting too while not being overpowered so they're actually vulnerable to something other than an invented plot device.

 

[Vault101]

Yeah, but the question was, "which is more compelling?" you didn't feel the need to ask about the man with the rodent fetish.

*shrug* just a random thing I remembered

as for Batman...well if he wanted too he could probably just screw around and leave the running of the company to others...I don't know how much of an active role he has

in other words the real answer is "its a comic book"

 

[Scarim Coral]

Depends really. I mean there without a doubt that Marvel movies are mostly great on the big screen but on the animated side DC animation is far more superior compare to Marvel animation. I'm not talking about Young Justice vs Ultimate Spider-man but the aniamted movies.
In saying so however only two of DC were proper origin story (Green Lantern First Flight and Wonder Woman) while all Marvel films had been about origin story unless it's the sequel.

 

[Gabanuka]

Generally rule is

DC Villians > Marvel Hewros > DC heros >>>>>>> Marvel Villians


And yes they are more fun, DC has always been the more serious company every since Batman got his gritty Reboot alla Frank Miller. Its why shows the Brave and The Bold did so well, it let the silly out.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

I mean I understand the love for Batman, but who really likes Batman, and not just the guys he has to deal with?

I love Batman! I really do! He is such a cool guy! A charismatic man, with many friends, but has this dark side that he deals with completely on his own!
I really do like that, as it's something I expect we all deal with... I imagine everone has a 'dark side' that they have to deal with on their own sometimes!

I agree about the rest of the core DC characters though. Although DC was always more serious, especially with the novels! Look at stuff like the Watchman and Swamp Thing and A History Of Violence... even V for Vendetta! Some of the Batman Novels are also VERY dark! Unfortunately the Marvel characters dark versions usually don't work as well, as the characters arn't usually written like that, but you do have ones like the Punisher, and some of the Wolverine stuff that is really not as 'fun' as some of the other stuff...

There is also soe darker Thor stuff on par with DC too!

 

[Sexy Devil]

Even then, do you like Batman or the guys Batman has to catch?

The rogues gallery in Batman is awesome, Joker, Two Face etc.

Batman plays second fiddle to the guys he catches

Depends on which Batman. In the Nolan ones where the character of Bruce actually has some complexity then he can be great, but most iterations don't do that so the villains really steal the show. DC stuff has always had this issue that they focus way too much on the characters as their hero persona, while the characters behind those masks take a backseat. This often leaves them with a rather empty personality besides hating injustice and feeling immense responsibility. This necessitates the villains stealing the show just to keep it interesting.

Contrast that with Marvel heroes like Tony Stark who definitely want to help people, I won't deny that. But they're also doing it largely because they like having superhuman abilities, so they gravitate a lot more towards abusing those powers and having some fun with them every once in a while.

This is why I think the Avengers movie worked so well, the social context of the heroes left itself open to a lot of witty banter and personality conflicts. A DC one would probably boil down to a lot of solemn scenes where all the characters brood for two hours over how they need to save everyone.

Ultimately though I'd still take a done right DC movie (I'm pretty sure Nolan's Batman movies are the only ones of those that exist though) over a done right Marvel movie. The solemnity allows for a much more thorough exploration of what it means to be a hero and the sacrifices those characters make so that others can live their lives, only to be hated in return. The only Marvel comic that really does this is Spider-man. In most everything else the really dark and depressing scenes would conflict with the upbeat tone.

 

[Dresos]

The only comic book superhero I like is Batman, I guess I'm just not that interested in a bunch of people with superpowers.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Marvel has created some great characters and the best series of movies......but I'm a DC man through and through.

I prefer my Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Captain Marvel, Nightwing, Supergirl, Power Girl and Green Lantern. They entertain me more.

 

[General Twinkletoes]

DC are so bloody boring for me. They'll all too OP to be interesting, most of them just can't really be in danger
The only one I like is batman. I'm only judging this on movies though, never read the comics.

 

[Starke]

Yeah, but the question was, "which is more compelling?" you didn't feel the need to ask about the man with the rodent fetish.

*shrug* just a random thing I remembered

as for Batman...well if he wanted too he could probably just screw around and leave the running of the company to others...I don't know how much of an active role he has

in other words the real answer is "its a comic book"

First, I must commend you, this is the first post I've seen from you without any immediately obvious spelling errors. It is also without capitalization outside of the "I"s and "Batman", and almost without punctuation, but, still, progress is progress.

Second, Batman does leave the running of the company to others, Lucius Fox is an actual character from the comics, and his role is (or at least used to be) running the day to day of Wayne Enterprises.

But, the real answer is not "it's a comic book", because that is not an answer to any question. It is, at best, an excuse. "It's a comic book"... what? It's a comic book, so it shouldn't make sense? It's a comic book, so it isn't worthy of serious consideration?

Saying "it's a comic book" suggests the character is without merit, and, if Batman is without merit, then you've answered the question of, "who is more compelling?" rather definitively. When it came to Daredevil you didn't say, "fuck it, it's just a comic," you asked a question. When you came to Batman it was "fuck it, it's just a comic."

 

[Tipsy Giant]

I actually really like the Justice League animated movies, But that could just be NPH as the Flash

 

[Vault101]

First, I must commend you, this is the first post I've seen from you without any immediately obvious spelling errors. It is also without capitalization outside of the "I"s and "Batman", and almost without punctuation, but, still, progress is progress.

thanks teacher...do I get at least a B?

[quote/]Second, Batman does leave the running of the company to others, Lucius Fox is an actual character from the comics, and his role is (or at least used to be) running the day to day of Wayne Enterprises.

But, the real answer is not "it's a comic book", because that is not an answer to any question. It is, at best, an excuse. "It's a comic book"... what? It's a comic book, so it shouldn't make sense? It's a comic book, so it isn't worthy of serious consideration?

Saying "it's a comic book" suggests the character is without merit, and, if Batman is without merit, then you've answered the question of, "who is more compelling?" rather definitively. When it came to Daredevil you didn't say, "fuck it, it's just a comic," you asked a question. When you came to Batman it was "fuck it, it's just a comic."[/quote]

why not? you have draw a line somewhere with suspension of disbelief... and I meant "its a comic" for both of them

Daredevel more than Batman...so no, I wasn't saying batman was the lesser character

 

[Starke]

First, I must commend you, this is the first post I've seen from you without any immediately obvious spelling errors. It is also without capitalization outside of the "I"s and "Batman", and almost without punctuation, but, still, progress is progress.

thanks teacher...do I get at least a B?

You get the grade you earn. Do the work, bask in the glory.

[quote/]Second, Batman does leave the running of the company to others, Lucius Fox is an actual character from the comics, and his role is (or at least used to be) running the day to day of Wayne Enterprises.

But, the real answer is not "it's a comic book", because that is not an answer to any question. It is, at best, an excuse. "It's a comic book"... what? It's a comic book, so it shouldn't make sense? It's a comic book, so it isn't worthy of serious consideration?

Saying "it's a comic book" suggests the character is without merit, and, if Batman is without merit, then you've answered the question of, "who is more compelling?" rather definitively. When it came to Daredevil you didn't say, "fuck it, it's just a comic," you asked a question. When you came to Batman it was "fuck it, it's just a comic."

why not? you have draw a line somewhere with suspension of disbelief... and I meant "its a comic" for both of them

Daredevel more than Batman...so no, I wasn't saying batman was the lesser character[/quote]Saying? No. At least not explicitly. But you were implying it. If they both have something equally incongruous, but you wave off one with "it's a comic book", and don't on the other, that's a value judgement. Not necessarily one you intended, but a value judgement nonetheless.

 

[Gitty101]

... I like Batman >_>

I can see where you're coming from though. Marvel's characters tend to have a little more variety then DC's. Plus they don't have such a strict moral compass, allowing them more creative freedom. That said though, I'm still a DC person. I genuinely think the more recent Batman title in the new 52 reboot is one of the best I've read. Did I mention I like Batman a lot?

 

[spartan231490]

I agree, but I don't think that lack of interesting comes from them being overpowered, because their villains are usually pretty bamf too, I think their blandness comes from their lack of personality flaws and inherent conflict. Superman is a prime example of this, he is the perfect person. Marvel heroes are much more human and relatable. I mean, captain america is the worst out of all of them, and even he has the conflict of being a thinking human being and trying to follow orders, and blaming himself for not being able to protect everyone.

 

[Vault101]

Saying? No. At least not explicitly. But you were implying it. If they both have something equally incongruous, but you wave off one with "it's a comic book", and don't on the other, that's a value judgement. Not necessarily one you intended, but a value judgement nonetheless.

no. I wasn't implying it...sub-consciously or otherwise

the only thing I ever thought of was "hey, I remember reading about how work intensive being a lawyer is....can you possibly imagine being a vigilante too?"

when I said "its a comic book" as the answer [b/]I meant both[/b] (not clear enough I guess?).... like I said, I didn't actually care about the point you were making....I was only thinking about being a lawyer and a vigilante

 

[Eamar]

I've always been massively more into Marvel than DC superheroes, and I'm not 100% sure why. I guess I agree they do sometimes feel more "fun" to me.

Mostly though I think I just find them more interesting, perhaps more relatable. I saw someone say once that Marvel heroes are driven by their own demons, whereas DC heroes just react to their enemies. While that doesn't hold true in all cases, I think that's probably why I prefer Marvel.