Anyone still play Fallout 2?

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Elurindel

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I'm currently back into the aforementioned top-down 2d RPG, and finding it as addictive as the many chems my child-murdering, slave-driving porn star lady character pumps before she blasts massive holds in people with a Gauss Rifle, as I need to wait for Fallout 3. Is it me, or is it much, much more difficult to play as an evil character? Bugs aside, there's the fact that maybe two out of the many NPCs are actually willing to join me. Not even the little mechanical dog will walk alongside me. The only people who will fight alongside me are Vic, who's actually pretty good, and Myron, who's next to useless and whose creepy hormonal nature get on my nerves.
Anybody got advice for playing as an evil character?
 

geldonyetich

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If you're at the point of the game where you're using a Gauss Rifle, chances are any companion you have is little more than a pack mule who you pray will not either (A) get killed by doing something stupid (B) kill you by doing something stupid. Once you get a good gun and some solid power armor, you should be a one-man/woman wrecking machine. I guess it goes without saying that a wasteland warrior who goes about killing the entire population of the wasteland should not be statted up to be a charismatic smooth-talker who must rely on ample companions for survival.
 

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Well, she is actually greatly charismatic, simply because I want her to talk her way through certain bits at the end, and ebcause I wanted to go through the whole porn star thing I'd never been able to achieve with a goody two-shoes.
And true, I realise companions are little more than pack mules by this point, but Myron isn't exactly the best of them, even if he is in power amour (hardened power armour made by threatening somebody to do it on pain of death, no less).
 

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I usually go back and play at least one of the Fallouts once a year.

And yeah it probably is slightly harder to be evil, I think a lot of the quests give you less experience if you choose the evil options (but more loot?).

You should be able to get a wife (or husband) in Murdoc regardless of your Karma but they're really useless (I normally sell them into 'indentured labour' in Vault City). Oh and if you have super high luck (about 8 should do it) you can get Dogmeat in a special random encounter. And when you said the mechanical dog did you mean the one in the Enclave base or the one in NCR? I think the one in NCR will follow you if you're evil but I'm not sure.

Damn I've played that game too many times.
 

Elurindel

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n01d34 said:
I usually go back and play at least one of the Fallouts once a year.

And yeah it probably is slightly harder to be evil, I think a lot of the quests give you less experience if you choose the evil options (but more loot?).

You should be able to get a wife (or husband) in Murdoc regardless of your Karma but they're really useless (I normally sell them into 'indentured labour' in Vault City). Oh and if you have super high luck (about 8 should do it) you can get Dogmeat in a special random encounter. And when you said the mechanical dog did you mean the one in the Enclave base or the one in NCR? I think the one in NCR will follow you if you're evil but I'm not sure.

Damn I've played that game too many times.
The Enclave Base dog. I'm not sure how to get the NCR dog to follow me around. Also, I'm a little wary about wandering around NCR, as there's Wanted posters of me on every wall...heheh.
And yeah, I was considering the husband/wife in Modoc, but I agree on their being useless, and you have to go back and pick up every single piece of gear after they jump you.
Also, where exactly do you find Dogmeat? I know he's supposed to be in a diner around San Fran somewhere, but I don't know where exactly.
 

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I'd like Fallout 2 more if it didn't seem goddamn impossible to survive random encounters.
 

Sccye

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I play it every now and then, but I know it inside out. It's still a masterpiece even after 7 or 8 playthroughs.

I quite like the endgame with 5 NPCs (Sulik, Marcus, Vic, Cassidy and Goris is my usual crew.) all kitted out with the best stuff and just watching everything in the world die horribly. I quite enjoy storming Vault City and then breaking Lynette's legs with a super-sledge and watching the guards trying to dent Advanced Power Armour Mk II with assault rifles. Needless to say, it doesn't work very well. Gauss Rifles (Or big, pointy deathclaws) against metal armour, on the other hand...
 

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Sccye said:
I play it every now and then, but I know it inside out. It's still a masterpiece even after 7 or 8 playthroughs.

I quite like the endgame with 5 NPCs (Sulik, Marcus, Vic, Cassidy and Goris is my usual crew.) all kitted out with the best stuff and just watching everything in the world die horribly. I quite enjoy storming Vault City and then breaking Lynette's legs with a super-sledge and watching the guards trying to dent Advanced Power Armour Mk II with assault rifles. Needless to say, it doesn't work very well. Gauss Rifles (Or big, pointy deathclaws) against metal armour, on the other hand...
Do those laser turrets ever actually have any effect, or are they just for show?
 

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This is one game I keep going back to. I played it a few times in short succession, and now I play it once every few months. I still remember my first character. He was a smooth-talking pistolero. I put all fighting skill into small guns, and ignored big guns, energy weapons, melee and unarmed. It made the beginning incredibly difficult. However, after finding them, I played the entire game with the gauss and .233 pistols. I found both pretty early in the game. I remember going on "hunting trips" just to kill enclave patrols and get their gauss ammo when I ran low. I always shot for the eyes, because with my skill in small guns, I almost always had a 95% chance of hitting them, at any range. Oh the memories.
 

Sccye

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Nope, the turrets are completely aesthetic. The only turrets that really work are the Plasma Turrets at Navarro and those twin-minigun turrets outside the Sierra Army Depot and in the Enclave.
 

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I just love reading threads about the old fallout games. I have yet to meet any proper fans of Fallout in person, the geeks around here aren't really the good old-school kinda geeks, you know, Fallout and Fallout 2, Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment, stuff like that. Makes me sad, they never tried the quality stuff before it got too old for them to give it a chance.
 

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Copter400 said:
I'd like Fallout 2 more if it didn't seem goddamn impossible to survive random encounters.
Agreed. I started playing for the first time recently and I've been killed way too many times. And there's no autosave! SAD FACE
 

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I play Fallout 2, But it's my first ever playthrough, does it still count?

Also, where exactly do you find Dogmeat? I know he's supposed to be in a diner around San Fran somewhere, but I don't know where exactly.
The Cafe of Broken Dreams is a random encounter based on your Luck, it is located somewhere around San Fran, if I remember correctly. Not sure exactly how high your luck has to be though, I think mine was 7 or 8. Oh! And remember to take off your armour, Dogmeat won't join you unless you're wearing nothing but the Vault Suit.
 

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Iv never played, but after beating fallout 3 iv always wondered were the hell I could FIND it.
 

Liverandbacon

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Kelethor said:
Iv never played, but after beating fallout 3 iv always wondered were the hell I could FIND it.
Well, you can buy it in a pack with the similarly excellent Fallout 1 and the mediocre Fallout tactics on amazon for about $15, or you can buy it and Fallout 1 individually at about $6 each on gog.com (you get it as a drm-free digital download that has been slightly tweaked to run better on XP and Vista).

Edit: Damn, ninja'd again.