Without going into too much detail, there are suicide nets to stop people from jumping off.Saulkar said:
who the fuck told you apple is worker friendly? Apple is one of the least worket friendly companies out there. Their own programmers and tech workers arent even supplied decently with software or hardware to work with! They are shit to work for. Im generalizing of course, but from all the people i know that work for them, they all immediatly tell me without flinching that they are shit bosses.Saulkar said:
Eh, you decide.draythefingerless said:
They are worker friendly in the US but in Foxcon where they are made the employees are some of the worst in the world treatment wise.Saulkar said:Eh, you decide.draythefingerless said:
Back in January, in response to reports of repeated worker suicides, toxic working conditions and rampant illegal overtime, SumOfUs.org launched a campaign to push Apple to address reports of horrendous working conditions in its Chinese supply chain. Over 200,000 of us raised our voices to demand that Apple make the iPhone 5 ethically. That phone is being released today. In a few weeks, it will be on the shelves. But the iPhone 5 is not an ethical iPhone -- not even close.
In response to the massive public outcry, Apple promised to improve working conditions, raise wages, and put an end to involuntary labor. The Fair Labor Association -- which is paid by Apple to investigate Apple -- quickly announced that there was rapid progress at Apple?s suppliers. But independent reports from as recently as last month tell a very different story.
Apple claims that it?s ending forced illegal overtime, but workers are simply required to meet the same quotas within a regular shift -- meaning many have to work extra hours without any pay at all. ?Apple claims wages are rising, but deductions for room and board have also increased, as has unpaid overtime, so take-home pay has actually declined.? Meanwhile bosses are still abusive, unions are still overwhelmingly populated by management, students are still forced to work in factories as part of phony ?internship? programs, and workers still lack any collective bargaining rights.
Suppliers like Foxconn abuse their workers because Apple demands that iPhones and other gadgets be produced as cheaply as possible. But Apple makes huge profits, and it can easily afford to treat its workers ethically. And as the world?s largest company, Apple has the cash, the centralized supply chain, and organizational heft to drive improvements throughout the Chinese manufacturing sector by raising its own standards.
I was rather reserved in my choice of words to avoid an argument that I was not in the mood to get into.
P.S. I was told it was worker friendly by the people who sell the phones. I did not believe them given that they obviously did not know themselves.
Yes, after hearing people complaining that its much cheaper in the US than here in Australia, i went and did some research.Dags90 said:
Insofar as nets will support someone who jumps off of a building, yes. The workers also had to sign pledges agreeing not to commit suicide in the future.Saulkar said:
I don't understand why people only ever bring up Apple when talking about Foxconn? Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Samsung, Nokia, Toshiba and Acer all use Foxconn labour, so why does one company get singled out?GAunderrated said:They are worker friendly in the US but in Foxcon where they are made the employees are some of the worst in the world treatment wise.Saulkar said:Eh, you decide.draythefingerless said:
Back in January, in response to reports of repeated worker suicides, toxic working conditions and rampant illegal overtime, SumOfUs.org launched a campaign to push Apple to address reports of horrendous working conditions in its Chinese supply chain. Over 200,000 of us raised our voices to demand that Apple make the iPhone 5 ethically. That phone is being released today. In a few weeks, it will be on the shelves. But the iPhone 5 is not an ethical iPhone -- not even close.
In response to the massive public outcry, Apple promised to improve working conditions, raise wages, and put an end to involuntary labor. The Fair Labor Association -- which is paid by Apple to investigate Apple -- quickly announced that there was rapid progress at Apple?s suppliers. But independent reports from as recently as last month tell a very different story.
Apple claims that it?s ending forced illegal overtime, but workers are simply required to meet the same quotas within a regular shift -- meaning many have to work extra hours without any pay at all. ?Apple claims wages are rising, but deductions for room and board have also increased, as has unpaid overtime, so take-home pay has actually declined.? Meanwhile bosses are still abusive, unions are still overwhelmingly populated by management, students are still forced to work in factories as part of phony ?internship? programs, and workers still lack any collective bargaining rights.
Suppliers like Foxconn abuse their workers because Apple demands that iPhones and other gadgets be produced as cheaply as possible. But Apple makes huge profits, and it can easily afford to treat its workers ethically. And as the world?s largest company, Apple has the cash, the centralized supply chain, and organizational heft to drive improvements throughout the Chinese manufacturing sector by raising its own standards.
I was rather reserved in my choice of words to avoid an argument that I was not in the mood to get into.
P.S. I was told it was worker friendly by the people who sell the phones. I did not believe them given that they obviously did not know themselves.
