Apple Brainwashes Gay Cure App from iTunes

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Still Life said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
I think Alan Chambers has every right to have his app there on App Store. He is talking about freedom of information, and that's true: he should be able to place his app there.
I'm on the fence, yet I'm leaning on the side of Apple.
Read the rest of my post and then decide whose side I'm really on. ;)
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Still Life said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
I think Alan Chambers has every right to have his app there on App Store. He is talking about freedom of information, and that's true: he should be able to place his app there.
I'm on the fence, yet I'm leaning on the side of Apple.
Read the rest of my post and then decide whose side I'm really on. ;)
I didn't mean to take you out of context, sorry =]
 

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Saikonate said:
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I'm tempted to just be excessively dismissive here, but I realize that Exodus and similar groups are able to brainwash folks into genuinely believing what they say, as horrible as it is.

That said, I don't think it's an argument that supports your cause any more than if you were arguing that the existence of feral children means you can "successfully change" a child to be an animal. The fact that you can abuse someone's sexual proclivities out of them is at best irrelevant. To put it another way: If I'm able to convince someone he's a teapot, that's not evidence supporting the idea that non-teapotism is a disease that needs curing.
My point was that someone can be changed from being homosexual. Whether or not you consider it to be a disease, it can be changed.
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What does that have to do with anything?
You asked why I'm against homosexual acts. That's why. I consider committing homosexual acts to be a sin because doing so goes against Christianity.
Still Life said:
You mean in the same way 'Christian' groups here in Australia took Aboriginal children from their families and 'convinced' them that their skin color and culture were inferior?
No. Some homosexual people decide that they don't want to be gay, so they seek help and are changed.
 

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Mad World said:
My point was that someone can be changed from being homosexual. Whether or not you consider it to be a disease, it can be changed.
And my point is that it can be changed only in the same way that you can convince someone of a variety of things through mental abuse.

I consider committing homosexual acts to be a sin because doing so goes against Christianity.
Why do you think homosexuality goes against Christianity, is what I'm getting at. Plenty of Christians disagree with you.

No. Some homosexual people decide that they don't want to be gay, so they seek help and are changed.
(the reason they think this is because of people like you telling them it's wrong, the poster you're replying to made an excellent point)
 

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Mad World said:
Still Life said:
You mean in the same way 'Christian' groups here in Australia took Aboriginal children from their families and 'convinced' them that their skin color and culture were inferior?
No. Some homosexual people decide that they don't want to be gay, so they seek help and are changed.
Yeah, 'decide' after they've had a constant stream of positive 'reinforcement' from society for their sexual orientation. [/sarcasm]

You have no cultural relatvitiy, do you? Do you even understand anything outside of your sheltered little world? Any idea of the cultural and social issues that come with a globally networked social milieu?

Judging from your answer -- no.

You really haven't answered my question, and you've taken license from a position of cultural privilege to use as a foundation for your views. Being Christian doesn't excuse you for using pseudo-logic.