Apple Initially Rejected Papers, Please for "Pornographic Content" - Update 2
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I love how when such scanners are implemented into real life, its normal, nothing to worry about, move along citizen.
But in games, it is downright pornography! It demeans the virtual people! How could you do such horrible thing to virtual people!
Its almost some kind of social commentary...
But in games, it is downright pornography! It demeans the virtual people! How could you do such horrible thing to virtual people!
Its almost some kind of social commentary...
Actually, I thought there were some stories about the operators saving the pictures or just enjoying their jobs way too much. The stories may have been false, but the Apple censors, being idiots and/or over thinkers, may have seen that as an implied way to enjoy the game.neonit said:
OT: "Pope added this decision is not a result of Apple bowing to pressure but admitting it had made a mistake in the review."
I won't say this isn't a possibility and that they already were talking with him before the original news story hit the internet. But, I have a good feeling that after all the OKed fart button apps and denied encyclopedia apps that had passages that apparently violated Apple's rules, Apple probably felt the pressure of an impending outrage against the original decision and got the ball rolling to reverse the rejection before things got too tense.
Maybe Apple should reeducate their review board members? Or stop getting them from the same place the MPAA get's its members (read: upper-middle class old white people with no connection or understanding to most of the things they review).(That last part is mostly a joke. I have no idea what backgrounds their review board has.)
These people have not seen the nudity in papers please. It's not erotic, it's not sexy, it's just another part of the job of the border officer we follow.
Or, more likely, they don't care.
Or, more likely, they don't care.
Except as has already been said, even by their own rules there's nothing wrong with this. Nudity does not make a game porn or even erotic, and even if they really wanted to be harsh they could have simply asked for the devs to make the "turn off boobs" option mandatory.Ed James said:
Anyway, as the update states they've realized that their curation process failed and they're letting the game in.
"not a result of Apple bowing to pressure" err sure whatever you say apple.
In all seriousness its good they have looked again and admitted it was a mistake however it is a shame that a game is not treated the same as a book or song as it can be art just the same as they can, i think its something we need to get past and i am glad apple have seen sense and taken another look.
Whist the mobile market is usually not known for quality games that tell a story ( not saying there are not good games but its not common for something like this to be on there), anything that advances the idea that games can be art is a good thing in my book.
I also don't like the term "art game" to me that misses the point of games as art, traditional "art" games are more a interactive art installation than a game that is art in itself.
In all seriousness its good they have looked again and admitted it was a mistake however it is a shame that a game is not treated the same as a book or song as it can be art just the same as they can, i think its something we need to get past and i am glad apple have seen sense and taken another look.
Whist the mobile market is usually not known for quality games that tell a story ( not saying there are not good games but its not common for something like this to be on there), anything that advances the idea that games can be art is a good thing in my book.
I also don't like the term "art game" to me that misses the point of games as art, traditional "art" games are more a interactive art installation than a game that is art in itself.
I'm guessing this comment is aimed for me, my comment came a bit harsher than I intended so apologies for that.
And what I meant with bending the rules was that because the review process is made game by game basis you might be able to sell slightly more controversial/artsy/morally grey games than what the rules usually allow.
I'm not really against Apple. I don't enjoy OS X, mostly because it is very different user experience and I hated XCode when i tried it during my studies in University of applied sciences. They also have to my knowledge the strictest policy regarding both computer and phone/tablet applications. Which is both good and bad, It's great for overall user experience, but less so for those who want to tinker around with their hardware and software (again to my knowledge, not much experience on the platform)
My comment was based on a publicly available document that is actually linked in the article and as far as I'm aware, I did not break any rules. I was mainly trying to condense the main content restrictions.Ed James said:
And what I meant with bending the rules was that because the review process is made game by game basis you might be able to sell slightly more controversial/artsy/morally grey games than what the rules usually allow.
I'm not really against Apple. I don't enjoy OS X, mostly because it is very different user experience and I hated XCode when i tried it during my studies in University of applied sciences. They also have to my knowledge the strictest policy regarding both computer and phone/tablet applications. Which is both good and bad, It's great for overall user experience, but less so for those who want to tinker around with their hardware and software (again to my knowledge, not much experience on the platform)
Rules are a two edged sword. I agree that they are useful and often mandatory. But if they are set in stone and never challenged, they will always limit what can be done. In this case stagnating the market eventually. It is fair to play by their rules, it's also okay to ask if rules can be changed provided there is merit for it.Ed James said:
Personally i feel there is room for many different types of games even on mobile platforms. I'm not really a part of the core mobile audience as I usually play at least half and hour and more often multiple hours on any given platform. Unless I'm sampling through games that i might want to try later. Longest periods would probably be anywhere from 4 to 8 hours on DS/PSP and 3DS but they are very different from phones. I think it's great that Papers Please was released on iOS as the gameplay should work really well on those devices, and I think more good games available is only a positive thing.Ed James said:
People often rail against everything popular. Apple is an easy target as it is kind of a niche at least where I'm from. But from what I've seen, iPad has a great screen and you could do a lot with tablet devices. I do agree that the market probably is not quite there yet for games that need more time dedicated for them. I can see them working on tablets but not really on mobile phones, though I hope to be proven wrong.Ed James said:
Can't help you there. I don't have one, but smartphones in general are pretty good at emptying their batteries. My phone is empty after three hours of semi heavy usage(usually gaming) though it can last about 3 days in standby. I really hope they'd improve this over getting few more pixels into a little smaller device than the last one.Ed James said:
I really don't have an answer for this. Honestly it feels like that was an accidental copy paste from another discussion. I'd like there to be more variety available in types of games and characters. And often "cheap" sex appeal feels really tacked on and can drive me away from even trying the game. I kind of feel guilty ignoring skullgirls based on panty shots and cleavage and then recently hearing that the characters are actually good? Still have not tried it.Ed James said:
