Apple Judgment Rocks Samsung's Share Price
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So, if Apple owns rectangle design with rounded corner then 80-90% of smart phones on the market infringe on that, and therefore Apple can levy suit against them. I know lets have Microsoft get in on this anyone know what the first Windows Phone 8 is going to look like.
I'm not surprised at all that other companies have tried to sue for copyright infringement, nor am I deluding myself that Apple are the first case like this.GAunderrated said:
It is very high profile, however, and $1billion in damages seems like overkill.
Yes, there will be similarities between samsung phones and iphones, but most of them (such as shape, and look) shouldn't be patentable.
Should samsung be responsible for the software? After all, Android is a google creation, so surely they should be responsible for that part, right? After all, let's face it, people that have purchased these "iPhone copies" have done so because of the Android operating system, and will have chosen Samsung for various other reasons, as Samsung aren't the only phone manufacturers that deploy the Android system.
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It's not even the case that Apple was the first to go with a rounded rectangle phone. I remember the LG Prada was like that and that was pre-Iphone. Apple just abused the US patent office to patent all these obvious features. They are all doing it. Siri is just like an earlier Google thing that they have patented and on and on it goes
the thing is once you got past the original I-pod it isnt even hard to maintain an Apple boycott. Samsung S3 and its tablets are far superior in almost every way. I don't own them either (I still use my old HTC) but it isnt really a loss.monev44 said:
Good for sticking to your guns though
I am glad that Apple won. Apple found a way to revolutionize the phone market with its iPhone. and instead of being innovative. many have chosen to copy the iPhone. hope this decision encourages more innovation. and actually. apple lost on the "rounded rectangle" thing. they don't own the rounded rectangle. it is 3 utility patents, 4 design patents and registered trade dress that the court upheld. the rounded rectangle fell under unregistered trade dress that was not protectable. bottom line is the patents were valid, and Samsung Willfully infringed on them.
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Have never bought an Apple product and they're making it really, really easy to continue that trend.
Not only do they charge outrageous prices for standard hardware and have absolutely horrid customer service but their business practices are also despicable.
Your average Apple customer makes it even easier, no way I'd want to be mistaken as belonging to that group (And yes, well aware that there's plenty of exceptions).
Not only do they charge outrageous prices for standard hardware and have absolutely horrid customer service but their business practices are also despicable.
Your average Apple customer makes it even easier, no way I'd want to be mistaken as belonging to that group (And yes, well aware that there's plenty of exceptions).
I'm extremely displeased. I already didn't like Apple, but now my disgust grows. I mean, they're already the most valuable company of all time, but I guess they needed more money.
Well put Bender.
Well put Bender.
Well really I could have picked any number of years. I just picked 15 because while I've never bought an Apple product in my life, it wasn't till maybe 15 years ago I would have had the purchasing power to do so if I wanted, which I had decided I didn't.Pipotchi said:
So if hipsters like Apple products... and I hated Apple before it was mainstream to hate Apple, does that make me an anti-hipster hipster? Like hipster^(-i)?
Probably just makes you hipster.monev44 said:
Is being an Apple fan even hipster anymore? I'm sure it has enough fans now that it's considered 'cool' by a lot of people. According to this article [http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/12/how-to-use-google-search-more-effectively/] "70% of students use Macs". At the same time, it's also cool to hate apple as well.
I have an iPod touch, but would never buy any other Apple product. As has been said already, their hardware is priced a lot higher than it should be.
I do have to wonder though, how exactly did Apple innovate with it's phone? The thing Apple has been really good at is marketing and selling it's product.
As a cool-to-bash company Apple is hipster whenever you need to accuse their user-base of being pretentious/anti-conformists and mainstream whenever you need to accuse them of being mindless sheep.frobalt said:
So basically whatever's most convenient for your rant. Kind of like how Cars and Software are Completely the same for the purposes of pro-used arguments but Completely different for the purposes of anti-DRM ones.
You do realize that you can't actually patent style, right? There's a reason auto companies keep their style data locked down and it's because anyone can copy the look of something legally. You also can't patent clothing designs. This case only broke in Apple's favor because it was a jury of Americans living near Apple headquarters deciding against a Korean based company.thiosk said:
um wait... the android is innovative compared to the Iphone. Apple has a unified "App Store", and Androids can ignore it.zBuLe said:
jail break you I-anything, and Apple voids your warranty on the device, and deletes you ITunes account, root your Android, and only in some models void your warranty on the device.
have instant access to my information on the go... PalmPilot did that before (although at risk of carpel tunnel of the thumbs)
its not so much that Apple revolutionized. its more that Apple shifted its draconian consumer control from the desktop/laptop/mp3 player to the phone. they didn't so much revolutionize as just take something that business people had been using for years, and "market" it to the general consumer. while maintaining their Child with ADHD off medication mentality where they can't stick with a product for more then a year to bring the price down to even reflect the actual cost to produce.
There is nothing factual in this post. Anyone can jailbreak your iPhone, Apple won't actively punish you. But in fan land, facts are a casualty. Does anyone actually REMEMBER 2007? There were Terabytes of articles and comments saying that the iPhone would fail because it didn't have a talk and hang up button/high price/one carrier and having a full touchscreen face was seen as a risky proposition. The Prada was announced after the iPhone, but came out before it. It was also not a smartphone. We know from discovery in the trial that iPhone development lasted the better part of 5 years and they went through countless prototypes.gardian06 said: