Are any of these JRPGs Good?

Crazy Zaul

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I know Tales of Vesperia/Xillia and Valkeria Chronicles are supposed to be good and they are still in the list cos its just a snip of the bookmarks folder I made called 'weird JRPGs'

I think most of the rest of them had yellow or red metascores and bad reviews on other sites. I've heard the Disgea series is pretty much pure grind. I also looked at Magna Carta 2 and that was reviewed reasonably well so I actually added it to my play list.
 

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The only one of those I've played is Disgaea 4, and I recommend it. Fun, strategic gameplay, a pleasant visual style, and a fun cast of well-written characters. There's a huge amount of potential grinding you can do, but the game doesn't force you to do anywhere near all of it.

Since you have a PS3, I'd recommend picking up some PS1 classics such as Xenogears, Final Fantasy 9, and Chrono Trigger.
 

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From what I can tell, Valkyria Chronicles and Disgaea 3 and 4 are the only ones I've played. And they're all very good.

Personally, I prefer 4 over 3, but that's just me.

Jolly Co-operator said:
The only one of those I've played is Disgaea 4, and I recommend it. Fun, strategic gameplay, a pleasant visual style, and a fun cast of well-written characters. There's a huge amount of potential grinding you can do, but the game doesn't force you to do anywhere near all of it.

Since you have a PS3, I'd recommend picking up some PS1 classics such as Xenogears, Final Fantasy 9, and Chrono Trigger.
What he said.

Isn't the PS1 Chrono Trigger plagued with long loading times though? If so, I would probably recommend getting either the SNES or DS version instead.
 

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The only game on that list that I've personally played is "Time and Eternity." That game is... strange. Not bad by any means, but it's not going to be appreciated by just anyone. Imagine, for a moment, a "slice of life" anime (Azumanga Daioh) mixed with a bit of fantasy, and then make it actiony. Now, once you've imagined that, throw in some typical anime romance and tropes, and a healthy dose of "Dafuq did I just hear/see?"
Reviews of T&T are largely negative, and personally I can't see why. Okay, it isn't great, but it's cheap and, like a slice of life anime, serves to kill time very well. It's going to be liked by only a small demographic, so you'll probably be able to guess from a couple gameplay videos if you're one of them.
 

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The White Knight Chronicles games are... okay. It's in the style of Final Fantasy XII (mostly open-world, all enemies are on the field with no separate battle screen, but the combat is still basically based on turns and dice-rolls). I don't remember much of the story. It was alright when I played, but not especially memorable. Get the second one as it comes packaged with the original.

It does have one noteworthy feature; you create your own character, who then plays a supporting role. They aren't the hero. I thought that was kinda neat.

But yeah, they're fun games while they last, they just aren't classics.

The only other ones I'm familiar with have been covered. I haven't played Disgaea (yet) but I hear that the grind is mostly for optional content. The story-battles are balanced on the assumption that most of your experience comes from other story battles. This is just hearsay, though, I don't know if it's actually true.
 

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Tales of Graces is crazy good. Best fighting system around.

Beyond that, the Disgaeas are good, Valkyria Chronicles is good, and I've heard good things about the Atelier series. Everything else, I've heard middling to negative things.
 

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I can vouch for Disgaea if 3 and 4 are anything like 1 and 2. There's a lot of grinding but it's the fun kind.
Same with the Tales series. I've only played Tales of the Abyss but if the games are anything alike then the other Tales would be at least good.
 

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Disgaea 3 and 4 are great. 4 actually upgraded....well "upgraded" the graphics so the sprites are not horrible (at the end of the day we are still talking about PS2 graphics here)

Valkyrie chronicles I can not recommend enough. Arguably one of the best RPGs of last generation. It is more...tactical in nature. Kinda squad based tactical RPG. The graphics though....HMMMMM. Amazing.

White knight chronicles. Ive tried playing it twice, I get bored after 10 hours or so. The combat is really boring, the story is mediocre, but the voice acting is alright. There is nothing really wrong with it, its just that there is also nothing really right with it. FF 13, with all of its flaws, still entertained me.

I didn't see it on the list, but tales of Vesperia and Tales of Xillia are great.

You know what? I will even recommend The Last Remnant. It is kinda Final fantasy Tactics meets Total war....meets Elder Scrolls. The main questline is not that long, but you wont be touching it 90% of the time. That said, do not under any circumstances get the 360 edition (its only on PC and 360). From all accounts it runs like liquid crap on there when you get to some of the bigger battles that have 70 fully rendered and unique characters that are all attacking, blocking, dodging, etc one another. Plus they made a lot of improvements to the PC port. It may be one of the few ports that is significantly better than the console version.


Johnny Novgorod said:
I can vouch for Disgaea if 3 and 4 are anything like 1 and 2. There's a lot of grinding but it's the fun kind.
Same with the Tales series. I've only played Tales of the Abyss but if the games are anything alike then the other Tales would be at least good.
3 and 4 are actually much sillier than 1 and 2. Granted, if you told me that 10 years ago after playing Disgaea 1 I would have said that such a thing was not possible.
 

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Tales of Graces is pretty good, gameplay wise (can't speak for the story as I'm still early in it) but IMO Tales of Vesperia/Xillia are way better, and I'd go so far as to say Xillia is my favourite Tales-game. Other than that, the only one I've played on the list is Valkyria Chronicles, which is crazy good, but I don't know if I'd call it a JRPG... It's more of a turnbased strategy game really. It's got some light RPG moments but the main gameplay is strategy.

No, wait, I did actually play Hyperdimension Neptunia. And it sucked. Heard the sequels are better though, but make of that what you will.
 

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Tales of Graces F is definitely a must. The story and characters aren't quite as good as Vesperia or Xilla, but its battle system is where it truly shines and is arguably the best battle system in the series. There is also a lot of content so be prepared to sink about 80 hours if you're a completionist.

The Disgaea series is good if you like tactical RPGs but as others have mention its quite grind heavy.
 

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Graces f is good.
Only good, not fantastic. I found it much more of a challenge than any other Tales game however, as in my experience some bosses require strategy, even to the point where I ended up playing as the healer. It was frustrating at the time, but looking back, I'm glad for the challenge.
The battle system is good, but I personally preferred Vesperia's, and I didn't like the limitation of having to use specific attacks to target weaknesses and overall the system for doing so was quite confusing.

So yeah, it's good. You should pick it up if you can.
 

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Do you have a PSP? did you like the turn based gaming and uppgrading of Valkyria chronicles or any other turn based game? And want some lipservice paid to erpsona 4's school days? The i can honestly reccommend valkyria chnonicles 2. It's a wicked play.
 

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Of that list, I've only played Disgaea 3 and 4 and Valkyria Chronicles, and I'd recommend all 3 heartily.
However, bear in mind that they are tough as nails and strategy is key to victory in them.
As for Disgaea being 'grind', only for post-game content. You can go through the whole main story with minimal grinding and still have fun. There's multiple endings too, so they warrant repeat playthroughs to level up your team.

For VC, I think of it more of a strategy game with light JRPG elements, rather than a JRPG. The stats of your squad may help out, but a shit strategy will still get your squad massacred. Also, the story becomes shit in the latter half, but that's personal preference.
 

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scorptatious said:
From what I can tell, Valkyria Chronicles and Disgaea 3 and 4 are the only ones I've played. And they're all very good.

Personally, I prefer 4 over 3, but that's just me.

Jolly Co-operator said:
The only one of those I've played is Disgaea 4, and I recommend it. Fun, strategic gameplay, a pleasant visual style, and a fun cast of well-written characters. There's a huge amount of potential grinding you can do, but the game doesn't force you to do anywhere near all of it.

Since you have a PS3, I'd recommend picking up some PS1 classics such as Xenogears, Final Fantasy 9, and Chrono Trigger.
What he said.

Isn't the PS1 Chrono Trigger plagued with long loading times though? If so, I would probably recommend getting either the SNES or DS version instead.
I can't really compare the loading times between versions, as I've only played it on PS1, but I don't remember ever being annoyed by loading times while playing it.

One more game I have to recommend, and I can't believe that I forgot to do so in my first post, as this is one of my favorite games of all time. Download Persona 3 FES from the PS2 classics section. Just do it. Right now. You definitely should not miss out.
 

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White knight chronicles... errr.. not so much. The story is mediocre standard fare for a jrpg... the combat system is horribly unbalanced and ofcourse the price for those games is very high due to low print volume or something.

Disgea is awesome but its not really a JRPG.. its a SRPG.. strategy RPG, great humer, great combat system.. solid all around title.

Rune factory games are nice if you liked the harvest moon games but wished it had dragons n stuff, thought not much more then that.

The tales of series is allways good for a laugh and has some nice character development here and there, however once again the story is rather basic to mediocre and by the numbers.

Valkyria Chronicles once again a SRPG with fun mechanics, not to mention you get a customizable tank! If youre into SRPGs this along with the disgea series is a keeper.

Agarest... errr... soso, its really slow in the beginning and i havent played further into the game. Its really really slow story wise, the combat system favors obliterating the enemy in as little time as possible so you will quickly build up some standard strategies you will use in every fight.. wich gets boring quickly. Only buy this if youre a JRPG enthusiast of the highest calibre

IF you want a great JRPG you should look at persona 3 and 4... awesome games that combine live sim with dungeon crawling.
 

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Woo hoo! finally, FINALLY, my obsessive support of JRPGs by buying every obscure title no-one has ever heard of comes in handy! Bear in mind that this is only my opinion, but I've played the majority of the games you've inquired about, and will happily share my impressions:

time and eternity- The gameplay is decent, and actually tries to be interesting... sadly, the main character is unlikable, and the story is bland and forgettable. I DID enjoy how they played with the distressed dude trope at the start though. If you can get it for the cheap it may be worth a check, but I wouldn't pay more than 20 for it, if I had it to buy over again.

the hyperdimension neptunia games- there's a reason they developed such a strong cult following that they spawned an anime series. The combination of quirky characters with tongue-in-cheek story and a few loving jabs taken at gamer culture in general is undeniably appealing, and as far as budget JRPGS go, the gameplay is solid and enjoyable. be warned that the healing mechanic of the first game is legendarily frustrating, though this particular flaw is fixed in all later installments.

the arland saga (Atelier Rorona, Totori, and Meruru), and Atelier Ayesha I wish I could personally strangle the idiot executive who decided the one thing the venerable "Atelier Iris" and "Mana Khemia" games needed to become more awesome than they already were was to drown them in moe. That said, in terms of gameplay alone, these games come HIGHLY recommended by me. The atelier games are some of the greatest item crafting RPGs, and these installments are no exception. A strict timelimit can feel imposing at first, but as the series progresses it becomes less intense, though not as much fun as the game would be without it. Meruru also includes some city building elements that I found awesome. Just make sure you go into these games ready to roll your eyes at some annoying anime "cutesy" cliches.

the Agarest Wars games To know whether these are the games for you, I need to ask you a question attached to a scene.

Here's the scene: A still image of a cute girl trying to fit a sausage way too large for her mouth, into her mouth, while she and another, offscreen girl make innocent comments that could be construed as sexual innuendo.

Here's the question: Did the idea of that scene, and other scenes based around the same concept, titilate you enough to want to buy a game that revolves around them? If not, you'll probably want to pass on the agarest games. The stories are actually not horrible, and the game features a system where the story takes place over several generations of time, with each generation having multiple women you can marry, with your choice in partner deciding the stats, strengths, and appearance of the next generation's hero.

Sadly, as ambitious and interesting as this concept is, it's married to a bland, forgettable combat system, and a story that, while not horrible, exists primarily to convey ecchi scenes for those people who are into that sort of thing.

you've already recieved info on Valkyria chronicles and Disgaea, so just know that I, too, highly recommend them

Trinity Universe Been a long time since I played this one, but even acknowledging that, I'm amazed at how little I remember about it. I don't recall it being particularly unfun, but clearly it wasn't memorable to me... if you can get it cheap it would probably justify a playthrough.

Last rebellion No, this game is not good. I have nothing positive to say about it. From gameplay, to story, to characters. the best I can say about the high points of the game is that they're average. The worst things I can say of this game have no place in polite conversation.

The White Knight Chronicles I preordered the first game after seeing some awesome trailers and gameplay footage, and realizing how starved I was for a sweeping, cinematic JRPG experience that used to be so common back before the genre became niche. The game failed to deliver on my hopes. Visually it's excellent, but the gameplay is forgettable, and the story plays out like they had a checklist of every fantasy story cliche by their side as they wrote it. The crux of the game was designed to be played around online multiplayer elements that were poorly implemented, and the whole game just felt like it was overambitious, yet generic at the same time. My experience with the first game soured my desire to play the second, though I hear it was a vast improvement.

Tales of Graces Any "tales" game gets my approval. they're not all amazing, but even the worst of them are still pretty good. Graces is far from the best, I would actually recommend Xillia over it, if you can find it, but Graces is certainly worth a playthrough.

I hope I was able to help!
 

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Vesperia is solid. Great characters.
Xillia is prob next under Vesperia, and they're coming out with Xillia 2 as well for the US.
 

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Everyone else has already recommended Disgaea.

So let me be the fiftieth: HELLS YA DISGAEA etc. etc., my fanboyish gushing about this series is well-documented all over this forum. I have to say my personal favorite aspect is the (totally optional, if you're not into that sort of thing) micromanagement and character optimization. Because that's the sort of weird munchkin I am.

On the Atelier series, I really enjoyed the spinoff Mana Khemia games, but when I picked up one of the main series games a while back (I want to say it was Iris, but I've long since traded it in and can't check), I found it really hard to get into. The combat was pretty dull, and the crafting elements that I loved in Mana Khemia were minimized.

That said, that was way back in the forgotten mists of the PS2 era, so the latest installments might have improved on those gripes.

Lastly: If you pick up any of the Hyperdimension Neptunia games, don't go with the original. It was made on a shoestring budget and the gameplay is all kinds of horrible. Go with mk.2 instead; it's got the same (excellent) story with an overhauled combat system.
 

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yea reading through this you've got the gist, Disgaea and Tales games are typically the way to go for 'weird JRPGs'...

just for the sake of throwing it out there, because it is INDEED WEIRD, and holds a weird place in my heart mainly for the... 'style', Magna Carta back on the PS2, don't think its on the PSN store, and i hear there was a sequel (which i will snicker at) but yea, its not really 'typical' JRPG shenanigans, its just really weird, like if you took a FF game, beat it over the head, and stuck it in stripper-iffic-drag XD plus the combo system was interesting, kinda reminded me of good ol' Legend of Dragoon (a ps1 i would TOTALLY recommend :3 along with Xenogears, both on PSN~) i will say its on the fantasy generic side (like White Knight Chronicals, even if i still shamefully like it especially with the 'upgrades' in the second one~) but its... its weird, it kinda twists up a few of the sterotypes you'd think of and just the main character... XD oh... oh that... yea, them~ :3

great game to play with friends in an extreme round of 'guess its gender' XD
 

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OK that narrowed it down a bit. Also it turns out Trinity Souls and Lair are action/hack and slashes.