Are re-makes ever better?

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Tyrant T100

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The reason the Carpenter version of the Thing is considered better than the original is both are based on the book but Carpenter's version is far closer to the book. So rather than being a remake it's more of a better adaption of the novel.
 

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It's difficult to say, I've seen films that are remakes and enjoyed them, but mostly I never saw the original, so I can't compare... The same goes for games really.

I've seen plenty of terrible remakes, that is, most of the 80's horror films remade with all the good bits sucked out of them, like nightmare on elm street.

What really bothers me though is the unecessary remakes, like Quarantine, which pretty much the exact same film as REC, only in English! I would like to think that this is the film industry underestimating their audience, thinking the average english speaker couldnt bear to see a decent film that isnt in their native language! Just like how the rights to remake Troll Hunter in english have already been bought....
 

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astrav1 said:
Ever watch the new Thundercats? Kicks massive ass.
Liono annoys the hell out of me, but aside from him I think all of the characters have been improved. It's really growing on me.

Back on topic, I'm going to add myself to the list of folks who loved the 2004 remake of Dawn of the Dead.

I would also like to throw out the 2007 remake of 3:10 to Yuma starring Russell Crowe and Christian Bale.
 

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There are a tremendous number of remakes that are better than the original. Generally, this happens when the original is relatively unknown and/or terrible. And that's why they don't get the same recognition as all of the really bad remakes - because often a lot of people don't even know they're remakes. And it's not really hard to see how this would happen: someone in a position to remake something sees a movie that completely failed to live up to an interesting premise and realizes that they could do a much better job.

For my contribution: Dune.
 

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just saying.

I've never enjoyed a remake of Kurosawa.

not even the Sergio Leone ones.

Kurosawa has done some great eastern enterpretations of shakespseare (throne of blood,Ran(which were Macbeth and King Lear))
 

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Reaper195 said:
BonsaiK said:
I thought the newer Dawn Of The Dead was way better that George A. Romero's one.
The only problem I had with the remake of Dawn was the running zombies. They only belong in 28 Later movies, because those are angry people, not the walking/running dead. Actual zombies do not run, it is impossible.
Since zombies are (more or less) fictional, they can be whatever the creator of the fiction tale wants them to be. They could even sparkle and romance the leading female character and technically they're still zombies if the screenwriter says so. Yes, I said that.

Running zombies was the best thing about the Dawn remake, they actually made the film scary, something that most zombie films are not. Slow zombies are silly and comical because they're not a threat - anyone in a traditional zombie scenario who can keep up a reasonable jogging pace and isn't too clumsy to trip or daft enough to lock themselves in a room with only one exit has about a 100% chance of survival. By making the zombies more powerful and quicker, there's a good reason to fear them.

The other thing the remake got righ that the original didin't is that the remake launched straight into the action - the world is crumbling by about the titme the opening credits. In other words there wasn't that obligatory 45 minutes of boring exposition and character-building that all horror movies seem to have.
 

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There are a few, like True Grit, 3:10 To Yuma and Ocean's Eleven, but it's a rare thing. I suppose you could make a good case for Fright Night too, but it's very different. Things have to change enough so it's not pointless, but not so much it's unrecognisable.
 

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Jindrax said:
Batman, Casino Royal dude common
Neither of these are remakes - they're reboots. And Batman movies nowadays are nowhere near as good as Burton's dilogy.
for batman...

The dark knight is basicly the old movie with the joker and the one with 2-face... but exponentially better.

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Devilman. This is what the original looked like:



This is the remake version from the 80's/90's


Aaaaaaaaaaaaand my favorite incarnation is the 00's movie version (2006 I think)

 

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I can't think of a single movie remake I thought was better than the original.
 

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I see that Dawn of the Dead is already mentioned, so I'd say that I really liked The Fly, Bad News Bears, Halloween, and if foreign-to-english transitions count, it's Let Me In.
 

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I really, REALLY dig the remake of Dawn Of The Dead. I absolutely adore the end credits.
Seconded.

While im not sure I'd say that it's completely superior to the original (the movies might have the same premises, but the cast of characters are of different size and the first Dawn of the Dead had a different social commentary than the remake) it's probably the best zombie flick to come out in recent years. In my opinion it's far better than Romero's Land of the Dead (which I found to be kind of boring).

So im not going to say that the remake of dawn of the dead is "better" than the original, but I'll definetly say that it's an awesome film worthy of the name, and far from a redundant remake.
 

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Toriver said:
How about Casino Royale? Haven't seen the original, so I can't comment personally, but for how well the newer version turned out, and the obscurity among Bond films the first one fell into, that may have a case.
The original Casino Royale film was a parody of the spy genre, and is quite silly. It only takes a few elements of the original Ian Fleming story and the rest is a spoof.

The Daniel Craig film is a much closer adaptation, actually adapting the book's tale for a contemporary audience.
 

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BonsaiK said:
Running zombies was the best thing about the Dawn remake, they actually made the film scary, something that most zombie films are not. Slow zombies are silly and comical because they're not a threat - anyone in a traditional zombie scenario who can keep up a reasonable jogging pace and isn't too clumsy to trip or daft enough to lock themselves in a room with only one exit has about a 100% chance of survival. By making the zombies more powerful and quicker, there's a good reason to fear them.
Slow zombies can be scary too.

The thing is they have to be portrayed as being in very large numbers, tireless and incredibly hard to kill/injure.

Kind of like how the intro-sequences and cut-scenes of some parts of the Resident Evil franchise portrays them (thinking of Resident Evil 3: Nemesis specifically). Despite the fact that armed police officers and swat teams try to form a perimiter and halt the advancing undead, no matter how many bullets they pump into the zombies they just won't go down completely and there are far too many of them so they eventually break through the firing-lanes and gang up on the police, devouring them mercilessly and relentlessly.

It's all go that "creeping, relentless death" about it. Yes, they might be slow, and you might be able to outrun them for some time, but you'll trip or get exhausted but the slow zombies never have to rest and they could pretty much cross oceans to find you (walking on the ocean floor) and eat you no matter how much you try to run or hide.

The thing is, not all movie directors are very adept at portraying zombies like that. Most of the time they just make the living main characters seem incredibly clumsy because they actually get out-witted/out-manouevred by a bunch of slow stiffs.
 

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Toriver said:
How about Casino Royale? Haven't seen the original, so I can't comment personally, but for how well the newer version turned out, and the obscurity among Bond films the first one fell into, that may have a case.
The Casino Royale film from 1967 was a parody/comedy, so the Casino Royale from 2006 cannot be considered a remake.

EDIT: damn it ninja'ed
 

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Halo 4 might be better than CE, but I hated CE and no amount of remaking can change why.
EDIT: Are we talking strictly films? Yes, they are. Dawn of the Dead, as a few people have pointed out, was very good second time round.